Clinton cribs from the Bush Florida stolen election in 2000 - Buzzflash

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If you wanted to compare the playbook of the Clinton campaign since New Hampshire, you'd find the right precedent in the Bush v. Gore race, only Clinton would be channeling Bush, not Gore.

Let's look at the facts -- as our columnist P.M. Carpenter -- has pointed out today. By almost all media projections, Obama will finish the run of primaries ahead in the popular primary vote, ahead in pledged delegates, and ahead in the number of states won. In a democracy, we call this winning the election. And to boot, Obama has won by consistently bigger margins than Clinton, and has led McCain in most polls. (Obama will probably even end up beating Clinton in delegates awarded in the Texas primary, where she barely won the contest in the popular vote -- and allegedly with the help of dittoheads who Limbaugh told to vote for her because she would unify the Republican Party against her and be the weaker Dem candidate in the fall.)

But Clinton rules have a different set of standards, just like Bush did. They bring the heavy artillery representing the entrenched moneyed interests of the Republicrat status quo in D.C. to redefine democracy. It's no longer who wins the election; it's who bullies their way into mugging the process through threatened lawsuits, flip-flopping like a dying fish about DNC rules that the Clinton campaign originally agreed to, bullying superdelegates, and denying that the will of the people counts for anything.

So, the Clinton campaign today (and if Obama had lost 12 straight primaries, you can be sure the Clinton campaign would have "worked the refs" hard enough to have made him withdraw long ago) is doing what Bush did in 2000, shaking down democracy.

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2. Reading buzzflash is like listening to RW radio anymore.

The epithets thrown about by many obama fanatics including buzzflash are the same ones we've heard now on RW hate radio for fifteen years. That should be enough to make a few people wonder where this is really coming from.

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5. Are there any credible sources?

that produce inflammatory information about the Clinton Campaign? I don't think it is Obama who has to 'grow a pair', I think it is people who are so insecure that the written word causes internal combustion.

[KoKo]

8. Mark Karlin (Buzz Owner) has a PR firm in Chicago...

I would think he's either got contracts that support doing work for Obama or he knows and likes him and so is devoting the site to Obama all the time. I wouldn't care if he didn't use Repug Op stuff against Hillary. Buzzflash supported the Clintons against the RW Attacks early on and up until the past couple of months reported articles that didn't seem biased against either Obama or Hillary. But, they've changed. And I can't go over there anymore either. It's a shame...they always seemed one of the most liberal of all the sites.

I guess money rules or friendships or whatever Karlin & Associates relationship in Chicago is with Obama supporters. :shrug:

[lynnertic]

3. Well. Go Hillary Go! sez this Kucinich supporter.

I think Gore conceded 2000 too quickly, myself.

Kerry conceded 2004 too quickly, too.

I say this as a Kucinich supporter, meaning that I simply can't decide between Obama and Clinton: If any hanky-panky even tries to happen in a Clinton v. McCain election she'd never stand for it. If she thinks she should win (and she does) she'll count those ballots her own self to make sure it's done fairly.

If I were to judge who to support based on the experiences of 2000 and 2004, I'd go with her.

She wouldn't cave the way Gore and Kerry did. The Rs are ruthless and she knows it and is ready and able to play their game and win. Her die-hard supporters are just as bloodthirsty.

Go Hillary!

[Divernan]

6. HRC is reverting to her Republican upbringing-going for the gold/dinars/dollars.

You've seen that chart re Clintons' income? $34.9 MILLION in 2006? I predict, given the access people with that kind of wealth have to extremely lucrative investments/returns, that the 2007 return will indicate at least $50 Million. (You do know about the obscenely high yield "funds" out there requiring a buyin of at least $3 milion for investors?)

The next questions are the sources of their income - particularly Bill. You don't haul in tens of millions of dollars for seeking fees and publishers' advances. He's been wheeling and dealing with a foundation he started and at least one convicted criminal linked to Rezko to ripoff NOLA. Next look at the tax rate and amount of taxes the Clintons ended up paying on that vast wealth.

Those are the reasons Hillary keeps lying that the returns aren't "available", and moving the goal posts on when she plans to release them. Witness Bush/Rove. People who fight dirty to WIN an office, continue to fight dirty to benefit themselves and their friends/donors when they get elected to office.

You can fight tough and fair or tough and dirty. Hillary's happily chosen the latter route.

[lynnertic]

7. That's why so many Republicans go for her.

I tell you she and Obama should join forces.

The person who gets the most delegates gets to be the Prez and the other gets to be VP. It's not like the office of VP isn't a powerhouse.... Thank Dick Cheney for that.

[C_U_L8R]

4. Clinton needs to stop trying to cheat the process

And Dean needs to call them out on it publicly and loudly.
He's being way too polite.