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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:53 PM
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Microsoft yanks Vista SP1 update causing endless reboots
No fix, no word on whether this delays mid-March SP1 rollout

February 20, 2008 (Computerworld) Responding to reports of endlessly rebooting PCs that flooded support newsgroups last week, Microsoft Corp. said on Tuesday it had pulled an update designed to prep Windows Vista for Service Pack 1.

Although the update -- actually a pair of prerequisite files that modify Vista's install components -- has been temporarily pulled from Windows Update, Microsoft has not yet produced a fix for users whose machines either won't boot or reboot constantly.

"Immediately after receiving reports of this error, we made the decision to temporarily suspend automatic distribution of the update to avoid further customer impact while we investigate possible causes," said Nick White, a Vista program manager, in a post to the company's blog Tuesday afternoon.

White downplayed the problem. "So far, we've been able to determine that this problem only affects a small number of customers in unique circumstances. We are working to identify possible solutions and will make the update available again shortly after we address the issue."

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9063479&intsrc=hm_list

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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:57 PM
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1. Stay on XP as LONG as you CAN
Vista is a disaster of epic proportions.

If you can - stay on XP as long as you possibly can. Get disks from friends if you have to.

Then if you are luck - upgrade to Linux.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:05 PM
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3. And then buy a Mac
I made the switch about a year ago, and It was well worth it.

Cheers
Drifter
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dsharp88 Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:49 PM
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11. Absolutely get an Apple, which, by the way, can also run XP...
I got my first Apple last summer and cannot be more pleased with it.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:10 PM
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4. Our company is scheduled to roll-out VISTA in July
I have two PC's at home one XP and one VISTA . For home use, VISTA seems to work OK, Office 2007 and Internet browsing is mostly what is done on the Vista PC.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:31 PM
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18. Our company is scheduled for a Vista rollout (new machines only)
in the fall, I'm so glad I just got my new machine with good ol' reliable (for the most part) XP!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:18 PM
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5. XP was an equivalent disaster when it came out
I remember scrambling for all sorts of patches so that peripherals would work with it. I still have a scanner that won't work with it at all. I have an ancient Win 95 machine I use that scanner with, meaning that box gets booted up maybe twice a year.

Once SP2 came out, XP was rock stable and probably the best product Microschlock has ever produced.

It's really too bad they spend all the man hours writing these new operating systems and rush them to market before all the bugs have been worked out.

If you have a box that runs XP, cling to it until they fix all the Vista bugs.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:19 PM
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8. Good advice, but Vista is nowhere near a "disaster of epic proportions"
Only reason I haven't installed it is because I like XP and some of my odd hardware doesn't have Vista drivers yet.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:35 PM
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13. Hell, I'm still on Windows 98 at home. And I intend to stay there.
My favorite was Windows 95/97 with File Manager. Everything else has been pure junk. I know, I've had to use XP and ME at school. I refuse to ever work on Vista.

I may not be able to do a lot of stuff, but at least my computer works.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:57 PM
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2. Thanks for reminding me why I don't do windows update
:evilgrin:
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:18 PM
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6. Endless reboots, eh? Wonder how anybody noticed.
:rofl:

Get linux.

http://www.linux.org/
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:19 PM
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7. The Wow starts ... sometime in 2025 ... maybe ... uhhh, we'll get back to you on that.
Wow, it's amazing how much that company sucks!

Wow, if I see one more blue screen of death, I'm going to send a cruise missile over to Redmond!

Wow, XP booted in less than 15 minutes! What happened?! I'd better call Customer Support just in case!

The Wow Microsoft didn't expect starts now.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:21 PM
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9. and i smile, knowing i was so right
to wipe out Vista and install XP Pro on my new machine.
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Twitch14 Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:48 PM
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10. Foot? Check! Target? Check! Gun? Check! n/t
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:25 PM
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12. How in the world?
How in the world are they allowed to roll out a product that they KNOW is broken, and then insist that people wait YEARS until its all good?
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GoodSpud Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:13 PM
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15. It is a business model that has worked...
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 05:28 PM by T.D.P. Roberts
for at least their past 4 major end-user operating system roll outs.

Why shouldn't they use you as a beta tester if you keep buying machines with the 'latest and greatest' installed?


Buy a Mac.

Buy a machine with no operating system, if you can, and install Linux.

Buy a machine with no operating system and install your own older version of windows.

Buy parts and build your own machine. Then install what you want.



I am thoroughly convinced that 90% of end users could run a modern Linux distro and never know that it wasn't windows.



Leave them sucking for air and they will come around sooner or later. Or they won't and that will be fine too.



T.D.P.

edit: said home users meant end users

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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:13 PM
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14. Linux Rules!!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:12 PM
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16. Fear not the penguin!!!
Nor the pufferfish.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:33 PM
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17. This is why I haven't run anything but Linux for over a decade.
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 08:49 PM by longship
One computer I had ran Linux for almost eight years without a single reboot. It was my DNS server. I upgraded BIND multiple times on it, along with a multitude of other subsystems, but never had to reboot the thing. It just worked.

My advice to everybody here. *Stop using Microsloth software*.

Get an Apple boxen.

Get one of the ready-installed Linux boxens.

Or, if you're on a budget, just grab an Ubuntu CD and install Linux yourself on your existing Microsloth box and kiss both the blue screen of death *and* the NAGWARE *and* the endless rebooting good-bye forever. Oh, and by the way, there are no live Linux viruses, and there haven't been any for many years.

You'll never go back to Microsloth.
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