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The Crazy Canadian Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:41 PM
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Will Clinton's defeat marginalize the "centrists" within the Democratic Party.
It seems to me that a Clinton defeat will reduce the influence of the "centrists" within the Party, the pro-corporate DLC types.

I watched Obama last night on CSPAN and I was impressed and I also like Edwards too. They seem to be supporting the goals espoused by most Liberals and Progressives. For doing more for health care, protect the middle class, protect the environment and ending the disastrous war in Iraq.

The "centrists" aren't going to go away anytime soon, they have big money behind them and they are not going to let the Party slip from their hands. But from what I can tell, they are losing the "battle of ideas" within the party.

I was just on Huffington Post and read that Clinton donors are looking into setting up some multi-million dollar anti-Obama 527 group to torpedo his campaign. Sounds like they are getting desperate, how pathetic.


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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:42 PM
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1. Obama is a centrist. Listen to his speeches.
I'm so sick of him promising he'll reach across the aisles, I could puke. My beagle is more progressive!!
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:44 PM
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2. You mean will Obama be marginalized and Edwards win?
No. Obama is winning be he has gone more to the center than Hillary is able to do, because she is too polarizing a figure. Obama is winning with the center, and the sad reality of politics is that makes him the most electable in the GE.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:45 PM
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3. IMHO, the centrists have been doing their level best to marginalize progressives
so, dunno if that will backfire on them, but if it did, they'd have no one to blame but themselves. Live by the marginalization, die by the marginalization.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:46 PM
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4. Please, let it be so. I'm hoping the defeat of Hiillary finally means the end of
the DLC and the Blue Dogs.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:48 PM
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5. LOL, if Obama wins - the Centrists have a bigger boost
Obama is not a progressive and not about to become one.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:51 PM
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6. Obama is way too vague.
He's bright and makes good speeches but I am not impressed.

I don't think he has the fight in him to be a good candidate for change. I see him as a Neville Chamberlain type who thinks we can appease evil.


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The Crazy Canadian Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:54 PM
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7. If Obama is a Centrist, then what is Clinton?
Some type of neocon or something?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:00 PM
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8. A very good question
Once she figures it out, we'll let you know.
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The Crazy Canadian Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:04 PM
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10. LOL
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:00 PM
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9. they are virtually the same policy wise
Clinton is another centrist.

Kuc is the true progressive
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The Crazy Canadian Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:06 PM
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12. Yeah, a more right-wing centrist.
I think Denis K. would be my natural choice, but I'd like to see anyone but Clinton win.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:04 PM
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11. No, you're swapping one for the other re: Clinton-Obama
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