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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:56 AM
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Sirota: Conservative, or just plain corrupt? (re: Blue Dogs)
http://action.credomobile.com/commentary/2007/11/conservative_or_just_plain_cor.html


Through their ethics scandals, Republicans in Washington long ago began making the word "conservative" synonymous with the term "corrupt." Surprisingly, though, it is a group of Democrats that is cementing this definitional conversion for good.

In the midst of the housing crisis, a cadre of self-described "conservative" Democrats called the Blue Dog Coalition is demanding congressional leaders delay legislation designed to help people trapped in high-interest loans stay in their homes and avoid foreclosure. The bill, House Resolution 3609, allows judges to ameliorate the terms of abusive "subprime" mortgages. Rep. Brad Miller, D-N.C., is championing it -- a gutsy move for a lawmaker whose state domiciles major lenders.

The Blue Dogs say they oppose Miller's initiative out of concern for the integrity of the 2005 Bankruptcy Bill -- a telling justification. Under that odious law, millionaires can shield their mansions from creditors, and corporate executives (think: Enron guys) can prevent ripped-off shareholders and employees from seizing their holdings. Harvard's Elizabeth Warren notes that the law also "permits people with vacation homes and investment property to rework their mortgages in bankruptcy."

But regular homeowners? Sorry -- without Miller's legislation, judges are barred from defending you against the vultures.

Blue Dog Democrats cite the social conservatism of their rural and exurban districts as the reason for such high-profile stands against their party. Somehow, we are expected to believe that their constituents' anti-abortion or pro-gun views mean those same constituents want Congress to help banks throw people out of their homes. But since when did any voters -- conservative or otherwise -- support that kind of thing?
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:04 AM
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1. oh, these God Damn Blue Dogs, Matt at OpenLeft is probably shitting a brick
I'll have to go over there, I'm sure he's breathing fire, as we all should be. The integrity of the bancruptcy bill, you mean the FUCK YOU, PAY ME bill, that bill? It's not our fault we lent you an insane amount of money, under ridiculous terms with pre-payment penalties in case you wanted out of insane terms, your the dumb-ass that took the money, now FUCK YOU, PAY ME.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:17 AM
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2. They are Corrupt
they have proven to be corrupt, just read the bills they helped pass in the Senate and House. They have block us from holding Bush and his cronies acountable. It's all about $$$$$$$$ and political gain.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:36 AM
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3. Most Blue Dogs are liberal on Social Issues. This has
always been the conundrum . It has only been in last very very few
years that Democratic Party permitted social conservatives.

Economic Conservatism affects every day the life of Americans.

Can someone explain explicitly the difference on Eonomic Issues
between a Blue Dog, DLCer and Moderate Republican.

As more and more evangelicals learn the truth and become
concerned with the material well being of their families
how will things shake out.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:02 PM
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5. The BIGGEST Social Issue in America IS Economic Justice.
The BIGGEST Racial Issue in America is Single Payer Universal HealthCare!

The BIGGEST Women's Issue in America is Single Payer Universal HealthCare!

The BIGGEST GLBT Issue in America is Single Payer Universal HealthCare!

The BIGGEST Middle Class Issue in America is Single Payer Universal HealthCare!

The BIGGEST Children's Issue in America is Single Payer Universal HealthCare!

The BIGGEST Urban Issue in America is Single Payer Universal HealthCare!

The BIGGEST Rural Issue in America is Single Payer Universal HealthCare!


Please don't label these assholes who support the For Profit HealthInsurance/HMO CEOs as "Socially Liberal". They are NOT. They may not care who gets an abortion, but the DAMN SURE CARE about the winning the Class War for the RICH.....and THATS the BIGGEST Social Issue in America today!


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:14 PM
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6. we should require orthodoxy on Middle Class Defense issues
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:29 PM
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4. The Blue/Bush Dogs are
a huge thorn in the side of the Dems. Many of them voted for that horrid FISA bill.

I'd like to see each one of them face a real Dem in their primaries.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:25 PM
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7. I think BD Dems are so commited to "compromise"
that that fail to see there are certain times (like with FISA or the Patriot Act) that you really shouldn't compromise.

They are doing us in and Nancy isn't doing a GD thing about them. :grr:
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