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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 06:36 AM
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Why on Earth Are Hillary and Obama Supporting Pro-Corporate Trade Deals?
Why on Earth Are Hillary and Obama Supporting Pro-Corporate Trade Deals?

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted November 13, 2007.

It's a perfect blend of bad policy and losing politics.


With the announcement that Hillary Clinton will join Barack Obama in supporting a new trade deal with Peru that passed in the House last week -- the first in a series of "free-trade" deals that are based on the deeply unpopular NAFTA model and being pushed through Congress by the Bush administration -- the divide between the two Democratic front-runners and the American electorate couldn't be clearer.

There's certainly no constituency for it within the universe of Democratic primary voters -- all of the Peruvian and most American unions oppose it, as do key environmental and anti-poverty organizations -- and it certainly won't win any "swing" voters to the party or make the Democratic brand more popular in any battleground states.

I asked Todd Tucker, research director of Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch, who really stands to benefit from the deal. He didn't hesitate before rattling off a dozen multinationals including Citigroup, Occidental Petroleum and Wal-Mart, all of whom, according to Tucker, have "put their full might into getting the Peru deal passed, including showering millions in congressional campaign donations since January alone." Tucker told me their wish list includes "privatized social security systems for Citi, rainforest-destroying oil extraction for Occidental, and a push to Wal-Mart's efforts to buy out Peru's retail sector, just as they did in Central America just days after Bush signed ." In addition, General Mills, (and the Grocery Manufacturers Association PAC, which supports it) wants the deal to go through because it grows most of its canned veggies in Peru (decimating onion, asparagus and pea farmers in the United States) and is now moving its processing facilities down there. Citibank, along with other financial services firms, wants the deal because it would allow the firm to sue the Peruvian government for damages if progressive activists succeed in reversing a disastrous social security privatization scheme that's screwed over millions of Peruvian retirees.

The rest of the field has come out in opposition to the Peru agreement, and one candidate, Dennis Kucinich, has gone so far as to call for abolishing the WTO. But like Obama and Clinton, Joe Biden, Christopher Dodd and Bill Richardson are all enthusiastic, self-described "free traders." It's John Edwards, considered a distant third in the race by the punditocracy, who is making the Peru deal into an issue that he hopes will speak to the candidates' overall judgment as well as their concern for issues of economic justice. "Like the failed free trade agreements before it," he said in a statement, "the Peru Agreement puts the interests of the big multinational corporations first, ahead of the interests of American workers and communities."

Supporting the NAFTA model does speak to the candidates' judgment. Obama said that he'd vote for the Peru deal because "it contained the labor and environmental standards sought by groups like the AFL-CIO," but the AFL-CIO released a statement saying that, because of "several issues of concern to working families," the AFL-CIO "is not in a position to support the Peru FTA." "Labor and environmental protections" are a scam -- Tom Donohue, head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, said that his members were "encouraged" by assurances that the deal's labor provisions "cannot be read to require compliance."

more...

http://alternet.org/workplace/67680/?page=entire
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 06:41 AM
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1. $$$$$$ $$$$$$ $$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$ $$$$$$$ $$$$
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:20 PM
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18. That's always my answer about EVERYTHING. It IS always the fucking money. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 06:49 AM
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2. I have always said that there is not much difference at all between
Hil and obama
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 07:22 AM
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3. I'm not seeing much difference between them and republicans.
Honestly.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:17 PM
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16. they ARE different on some issues, just not on the ones that matter the most
the issues that matter the most, at this point in time,
are ending torture, ending this illegal and immoral war, blocking the rampant powergrab of the unitary executive, preventing further illegal wars, restoring civil rights, and fighting the corporatism that has overtaken and is killing our economic system.

IMHO, those are the most important issues at this time. All other issues, take a back seat, and in fact, WILL permanently take a back seat unless those issues are addressed.


the ONLY candidate willing to address the largest number of those issues head on is Kucinich, and to a lesser degree, Biden and then much lesse degree Edwards.

Clinton and Obama are giving lip service at best to those issues, which does not comfort my fears at all.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 07:38 AM
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4. The $20 Million Question; Why Indeed?
Because the fix is in. Go John Edwards!
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:15 AM
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7. You ain't kidding - the fix is in ..
The killer here is after the JJ Dinner in Iowa, the media all but crowned Obama the winner. Not to be too cynical, but the enthusiasm for Edwards after that was overwhelming and for Obama, eh, not so much. Edwards JJ Dinner video, 1554 views, 70 replies, and 47 recs - Obama JJ Dinner, 590 views, 7 recs and 8 replies. Now, compare both of those to the only video of Clinton that night, (.55 seconds of it), 415 views, 13 replies and 2 recs. Kinda makes you go hummm.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:53 AM
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8. But Edwards spoke first so you have to take that into consideration.
I went to bed before Clinton or Obama spoke, so didn't see their speeches. Not a fair comparison though I read how great Edwards speech was, though no one in the msm gave him much credit for it (what a surprise :eyes:).
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:35 AM
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9. But wouldn't it stand to reason
that because he spoke first there would have been more exposure? And if most went to bed before Clinton and Obama, wouldn't there have been more views on their videos? I just don't get it sometimes, there are more positive Edwards threads on the Greatest Page on most any given day, than the other two. It's it not always the same supporters either, I pretty much know who they are but I'm seeing more and more new people posting replies with their support and agreement on whatever the OP is.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 08:13 AM
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5. Corporations and Business really control and run things in
this country. No one will be elected who does not do the
Corporate Waltz. Dems decided long ago to abandon half the
voters in this country and only compete for the identical
voters that GOP compete for. GOP is ProBusiness Party and
Dems are the Me TOO party.

Sure, I will support a Dem over a Republican but I have no
dreams of much change.
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:12 AM
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23. Isn't that called Fascism?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 08:20 AM
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6. Bought and paid for and isolated from their constituents.
How long have people been screaming for "FAIR" trade as opposed to "Free" trade???
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:35 AM
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10. Because they are both FRAUDS!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:46 PM
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20. Or more politely put ......
Faithfulness to obligations, duties, and observances of fidelity.
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Al Federfer Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:38 AM
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11. We are being presented with the ILLUSION of choice. n/t
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:17 PM
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12. To the GP
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:26 PM
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13. Biden is AGAINST this!

Mrs Clinton's main rival, Barack Obama, recently came out in favour of the Peru deal, while Joe Biden announced his opposition.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21518412
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:04 PM
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14. Why do you hate america?
(sarcasm)
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:10 PM
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15. follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:18 PM
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17. always good advice
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:20 PM
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19. Why? Here is a "graphic" that illustrates the "problem".
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 06:04 PM
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21. That question pretty much answers itself, I'd say.. n/t
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 06:31 PM
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22. Like a good parent, Wall Street loves 'em both equally
Or pretty darn close.

Contributions from the Securities and Investments Industry

Clinton $4,735,730
Obama $4,505,199
Edwards $ 773,600

Source: FEC via Opensecrets.org
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:49 AM
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24. Duh! Hello!!!
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