Democratic Debate and Iraq: Where's The Outrage?

[antiimperialist]

Aug. 20, 2007
By M.J. Rosenberg
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2007/aug/20/democratic_debate_and_iraq_wheres_the_outrage

(snip):

On a day when the New York Times ran an amazing op-ed by seven courageous (still active) soldiers describing how hopeless the Iraq situation is and how everything the administration is telling us about Iraq right now is a lie, the Democratic candidates discuss the war as if it was a blunder not a crime.
I want to hear the Democrats use the phrase "unconditional withdrawal" and then say what device they will come up with to help this nation we have destroyed. But first things first. Our policy must be to get out and fast.

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Most of the candidates yesterday sounded too much like Nixon in 1968 for my taste. They are against the war but they won't leave, not for a year or two or four.

Where is their outrage about this crime against Iraq and America? Is there any? Or is Iraq, for them, merely a foreign policy mistake rather than the worst crime America has ever committed internationally, a crime that not only destroyed a nation but one which will blow back against Americans in terrible ways for a generation.

I do not want to hear their plans for staying in. I want to hear how they are getting out. And I want to hear outrage, if any of them feel any.

Enough with the goddam jokes and laughter and collegial bs. 3700 Americans died for nothing, and we destroyed a nation that did us no harm.

[presspeal]

1. Not just yea...

But hell yea!:yourock:

[Tom Joad]

2. Hillary goes one step further down, and blames *Iraqis* for the bad news

Racist piece of shit gives pieces of shit a bad name.

[eridani]

6. I'd suggest that she try living under constant threat of death

No water and electricity for an hour a day.

[irislake]

3. Sorry I don't think the Democrats mean to get out

without the oil.

I am in the midst of reading FAILED STATES (Chomsky) and feel very hopeless about the world right now.

You Americans should have been marching in the streets to save your poor excuse for a democracy while it was still safe to do so. Too dangerous now, I fear. All those internment camps? Sheesh! They ain't for Mexicans and Muslims, my friends.

[libodem]

4. The concept of a phased withdrawal

may be very dangerous as well. Just because we admit we screwed up, stick our tails between our legs and get ready to run doesn't mean they will not be shooting real bullets at our backs. The draw down in Basra, by the Britons, is demonstrating that, diminishing the number of targets does not necessarily diminish the hostility of the natives. They are plenty mad. We may have to back out, back first, with our AK's blazing. I don't think I'd feel very safe on a big long convoy headed to Kuwait. We need to get out, but to do so safely, is going to be a big trick. I expect we will see helicopters, full of troops being shot out of the sky as we evacuate. I swear plan 'B' better be on the table now and some real strategy being planned on how to get the hell out without being slaughtered. If we need to lie and sneak, we can take a lesson from this Administration , and get it on!

[rjones2818]

5. Gaze upon HR 1234, the Kucinich 12 point plan

for immediate withdral from Iraq without leaving it a great mess!

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1234

Info from Dennis' website here:

http://dennis4president.com/go/resources/kucinich-unveils-comprehensive-exit-plan-to-bring-troops-home,-stabilize-iraq/

Another reason to vote for Dennis!

Go Dennis!
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!

:kick:

[GeorgeGist]

7. kucinich

kucinich