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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:10 PM
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Scientists issue warning about chemical in plastic



http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-plastics3aug03,0,234908.story?coll=la-home-center

Scientists issue warning about chemical in plastic
By Marla Cone, Times Staff Writer
6:49 PM PDT, August 2, 2007

Related
- Reports from Science Direct (paid subscription)
In an unusual effort targeting a single chemical, several dozen scientists on Thursday issued a strongly worded consensus statement warning that an estrogen-like compound in plastic is likely to be causing an array of serious reproductive disorders in people.

The compound, bisphenol A or BPA, is one of the highest-volume chemicals in the world and has found its way into the bodies of most human beings.

Used to make hard plastic, BPA can seep from beverage containers and other materials. It is used in all polycarbonate plastic baby bottles, as well as other rigid plastic items, including large water cooler containers, sports bottles and microwave oven dishes, along with canned food liners and some dental sealants for children.

The scientists -- including four from federal health agencies -- reviewed about 700 studies before concluding that people are exposed to levels of the chemical exceeding those that harm lab animals. Infants and fetuses are most vulnerable, they said.

The statement, published online by the journal Reproductive Toxicology, was accompanied by a new study by researchers from the National Institutes of Health finding uterine damage in newborn animals exposed to BPA. That damage is a possible predictor of reproductive diseases in women, including fibroids, endometriosis, cystic ovaries and cancers. It is the first time BPA has been linked to female reproductive tract disorders, although earlier studies have found early-stage prostate and breast cancer and decreased sperm counts in animals exposed to low doses.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:19 PM
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1. K&R!
:kick: Plastics are NOT harmless -- far from it.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:26 PM
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2. eek - and here I thought my mom was being overly paranoid by never using plastic containers to heat
food in the microwave...
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:39 PM
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3. Just great.
Broadcasting to everyone I know....
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:51 PM
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4. why is this in editorials?
this is science - not opinion. are there any hard plastics that don't leach. I just bought a water bottle that is supposedly non-toxic. Do I have to go to stainless steel?
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 06:07 PM
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12. I re-use a glass Bragg Vinegar bottle for water
Good size and shape, and quite attractive. It holds approx. one quart. People in my exercise class like them too and I bring them my extras cause I go through one every week or 2.

Some are also using Sobe bottles because they're a good size. Just buy one and pour out the toxic contents...

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:51 PM
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5. Fuckers. They told us for years that polycarb was inert
I hope there's a big class action suit on this one.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:52 PM
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6. Crap.
I hate it when real scientists find a definable and provable problem - no excuse not to be concerned about this now :(
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low_phreaq Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:06 PM
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7. BPA and NALGENE
"As a responsible manufacturer of polycarbonate consumer products, Nalge Nunc International has monitored scientific research concerning the safety of our products including Bisphenol-A for many years.

Based on the findings of the Food and Drug Administration, The Environmental Protection Agency, The American Plastics Council and other reliable sources from around the world, we continue to firmly believe in the safety of our products."

More...

http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/technical/bpaInfo.html

There are more documents and links to other info on the site. I don't think they have updated the site with this latest info, though.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 09:17 AM
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11. I quit using Nalgene bottles several years ago and now use
stainless steel bottles like this........

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:24 PM
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8. Another warning that'll go ignored no doubt....
This is not new(s), at least not in the sense that most people haven't heard the stories about microwaving plastics and/or use of plastics with chemicals that leech into food for a long while. I think the first time I heard this was back in the mid-90s with a professor from Hawaii saying microwaving plastics released carcinogens into food. He was roundly poo-pooed and castigated in the press by the petro-chemical industry, of course.

Here are just a few old articles......
==========================================================================
Heat's on plastic containers

Despite widespread rumors to the contrary, food containers do not release dioxin. They can't -- they don't have any.

Los Angeles Times
Published: June 27, 2005
By Judy Foreman

Even amid the growing barrage of presumably well-intentioned health warnings now flying around cyberspace, this one is a doozy.

It warns that microwaving food in plastic containers releases dioxin, a carcinogen, or cancer-causing agent. The e-mail notes that the warning about dioxin had been sent out in a newsletter from Johns Hopkins, the esteemed medical institution in Baltimore, and that similar information is "being circulated" at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C. The e-mail adds that freezing water in plastic bottles also releases dioxin.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. A Johns Hopkins spokesman called the e-mail a "hoax," adding, "It was never in our newsletter." A Walter Reed spokeswoman had never heard of it.

http://www.plasticsinfo.org/s_plasticsinfo/sec_level4_alt.asp?CID=551&DID=3406

Microwaving food in plastic: Dangerous or not?

If you use e-mail, chances are you’ve received an urgent “PLEASE READ THIS!” message about the dangers of microwaving food in plastic containers or plastic wrap. The message warns that chemicals can leach out of the plastic and into the food, causing cancer, reproductive problems, and other ills. Is there any truth to this, or is it just another Internet-fueled “urban legend”? As is often the case with alarmist e-mails, this one contains a small kernel of truth — and a lot of misinformation.

Migrating chemicals
When food is wrapped in plastic or placed in a plastic container and microwaved, substances used in manufacturing the plastic (plasticizers) may leak into the food. In particular, fatty foods such as meats and cheeses cause a chemical called diethylhexyl adipate to leach out of the plastic. This certainly sounds scary, so it’s little wonder that a warning is making its way across the Web.

But here’s what the e-mails don’t mention. The FDA, recognizing the potential for small amounts of plasticizers to migrate, closely regulates plastic containers and materials that come into contact with food. Before approving a container, the FDA conducts tests to make sure that it doesn’t leak unsafe amounts of any substance into food.

The FDA tests measure the migration of chemicals at temperatures that the container or wrap is likely to encounter during ordinary use. For microwave approval, the agency estimates the ratio of plastic surface area to food, how long the container is likely to be in the microwave, how often a person is likely to eat from the container, and how hot the food can be expected to get during microwaving. The scientists then measure the chemicals that leach out and the extent to which they migrate to different kinds of foods. The maximum allowable amount is 100–1,000 times less per pound of body weight than the amount shown to harm laboratory animals over a lifetime of use. Only containers that pass this test can display a microwave-safe icon, the words “microwave safe,” or words to the effect that they’re approved for use in microwave ovens.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0706a.shtml

Plastic Paradox
by author Joe Skelton

During a recent discussion with my stepdaughter Stephanie, she related that at a gathering of mothers and their toddlers, the topic of microwaving plastic baby bottles was broached.

“One group said it was a myth that microwaving plastic baby bottles was harmful to babies,” said Stephanie, “while the other claimed there were numerous studies that indicate there are legitimate concerns because some types of plastics, when they are subjected to high temperatures, leach into foods and liquids. They were arguing about something called BPA, and I’m not sure which side has its facts straight,” she added.

The Warnings

I told her that the debate concerning bisphenol A (BPA) has been raging for years. BPA is used in the production of polycarbonate plastics and epoxy resins. Polycarbonate plastics are found in many consumer products including food containers and baby bottles. A concern of many researchers is that BPA acts as a hormone disruptor that can mimic natural hormones even when people are exposed to extremely low dosages. BPA is believed to emulate estradiol, a hormone essential for human development and health.

Frederick vom Saal, Professor of Biological Sciences, University of Missouri, reported in a 1998 interview, “The amount of estradiol you’re exposed to throughout your life is also the best predictor of breast cancer. This chemical mimics that hormone. The body can’t tell the difference between BPA and estradiol. In other words, it sees this chemical and it thinks it’s getting exposed to its natural hormone.”

Source: alive #280, February 2006

http://www.alive.com/4295a12a2.php?subject_bread_cramb=182


Food Facts - May, 2003 Newsletter
http://foodsafety.wisc.edu/consumer/food_facts_archive/foodfacts_2003/foodfacts_may_2003.html

Chemical in Plastics Is Tied to Prostate Cancer

Bisphenol A, found in baby bottles and microwave cookware, permanently altered genes in newborn lab rats, a study finds.
By Marla Cone, Times Staff Writer
June 1, 2006

Linking prostate cancer to a widespread industrial compound, scientists have found that exposure to a chemical that leaks from plastic causes genetic changes in animals' developing prostate glands that are precursors of the most common form of cancer in males.

The chemical, bisphenol A, or BPA, is used in the manufacture of hard, polycarbonate plastic for baby bottles, microwave cookware and other consumer goods, and it has been detected in nearly every human body tested.


And then there's the PVC problem:
http://archive.greenpeace.org/toxics/html/content/pvc1.html
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:47 PM
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9. The prime question that science must now answer:


How will humanity manage to destroy itself and which will be the cause: Suicide of the species by heat death, or poisoning?
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 06:56 AM
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10. This is why, YEARS AGO, I stopped using plastic for ANYTHING
except to freezing water in to use as ice packs. I've been following the progress of these studies since about '01.

We use enameled containers or glass. When we do use plastic for small amounts of dry leftovers, or to carry for lunches, we line the containers with waxed paper.

People think I'm a neurotic freak, but sorry, there is SOMETHING WRONG!

I didn't know about the can liners. Most of the food I make is fresh. I guess the refried beans will have to go...damn, making them from scratch is a pain in the ass.

*grumble, grumble......sigh* Crap
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 09:52 PM
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14. Good for you!!! I'm going to try to give up water in bottles . . . it's so harmful to environment
but they're so damned handy outdoors.

Meanwhile, a long time ago, when they were testing blood samples for something, they recognized that the PLASTIC tubing/containers was LEECHING into the samples.

But then . . . . we're still using these plastic bags/tubing etc in hospitals -- so what sense does that make????

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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:49 PM
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13. It's a good thing I drink mainly tea, beer and wine.
Sometimes in the summer fruit smoothies, limeade and lemonade. All of these beverages never touch plastic. I have a great collection of Griswold and Wagner ironware. Skillets, cornbread pans, waffle irons, egg pans. I threw away my teflon years ago. I have purchased milk a few times in plastic, but i think I will cut that out as well. It is hard to find cheese in anything but plastic wrap or containers.

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