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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:46 PM
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No wafer for Rudy (Rudy's religious/marital history) – Village Voice
Giuliani campaigns as a Catholic, but he's on the outs with God

by Wayne Barrett

(snip)

Twenty-five years ago, Giuliani, 38, the youngest associate attorney general in Justice Department history, was assiduously strategizing with his closest friend, Monsignor Alan Placa, about ways to annul his first marriage. He'd already divorced his wife, Regina Peruggi. But the politically ambitious Giuliani, who almost never went to Mass, was nonetheless determined to get the church to bless the dissolution of his 14-year marriage.

Placa had actually dated Peruggi himself in high school and was a seminarian when he served as best man at Giuliani's 1968 wedding. Now, in 1982, the well-connected monsignor with a law degree had come up with a way to cancel it. Since Peruggi and Giuliani were second cousins, Placa concluded, they were supposed to have obtained a dispensation from the church before marrying. Their failure to get one was grounds for a retroactive annulment.

This was ironic, because it was Placa himself who had advised the couple before the wedding that they didn't need a dispensation. At least that was the recollection of Giuliani's mother Helen in a taped interview. Helen says that Peruggi was offended by the annulment, and adds that her former daughter-in-law "went to diocesan headquarters to fight it."

Despite Peruggi's opposition, Placa—whose office was just doors away from the marriage tribunal that heard the case—secured the annulment. He also helped Giuliani by obtaining another annulment for Hanover, the TV newswoman that Rudy intended to make his second wife. Placa married the couple at St. Monica's on East 79th Street, just blocks away from where the two were living. Giuliani had taken over as U.S. Attorney in Manhattan a few months earlier, and the wedding attracted news items on the gossip pages.

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BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:52 PM
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1. The one thing I will say in Giuliani's defense is that it shows that he is somewhat...
human (Even if he is a Republican).... Of all the Republican candidates out there, If, and I do mean if... one had to choose a Republican... (Not gonna happen) I think he would be the best of the worst...

Just one persons opinion...

ww
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:52 PM
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2. Neither the Pope OR individual Priests within Parishes CONTROL the granting of Communion ...
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 09:52 PM by ShortnFiery
That decision is for "the individual and his conscious" before God.

Really, it's none of our business whether or not Rudy is "a good Catholic." :shrug:

We should know when we have crossed "a line" especially since most of us Democratically inclined people believe in STRICT separation between Church and State.

This sort of article makes us all look petty and small minded. :(
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:57 PM
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3. It's the hypocrisy
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Giuliani has only struck a public Catholic pose when it has suited him politically. The most infamous incident occurred in late 1999, when he was positioning himself for the 2000 Senate race against Hillary Clinton. At the same time that Giuliani was secretly squiring Nathan around town while still living with Donna Hanover at Gracie Mansion, he went ballistic over a painting of the Virgin Mary with an exposed breast made of elephant dung that was on display at the Brooklyn Museum. He cut all city funding to the museum, railing against the portrait as anti-Catholic, and was promptly saluted by Cardinal O'Connor and blocked by the federal courts. While Catholics are only one of several major voting blocs in the city, they constitute almost half of the state's voters, and Giuliani—running statewide for the first time—made a fairly naked appeal to them with his over-the-top response to pachyderm poop. The city had been connected to other equally abusive "art," including a public access station depicting a sex act on top of a Bible, without Giuliani making a stink.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:52 PM
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4. What did Placa or the church receive from Giuliani for the annulments?
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:22 PM
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5. kick
kick
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Bravo Zulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:38 PM
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6. Ghouliani is in Pittsbugh today, mitt is coming tomorrow
In run for White House, Giuliani stops in the Strip
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07178/797524-100.stm

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Bravo Zulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 10:41 AM
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7. Rudy the cross-dresser is drowning in bad news.....
The string of events comes as surveys in early voting states have him trailing or losing ground.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 06:21 PM
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8. Just finished reading this. It's long but well worth it.
:kick:
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 03:51 PM
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9. He married his cousin?
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