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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:30 PM
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Something strange has happened to food in the richest country in the world: Fast, but it ain't good.
from The Nation:

Donna Schaper

It was early evening, I was really hungry and the only relief in sight was the Ramapo Thruway so-called service station. I put gas in the car and went in to see what gas they had for me. I grew up before the Thruway went in and listened to nothing but my extended family's extended conversations about how the road would destroy upstate. Later in my life, as the contracts were let for which agribusiness would manage the food on the Thruway, I wrote an article about local food. At the time I didn't know what the local food movement was, just that local restaurants, instead of franchises up and down the automotive spine of the state, might be a way to limit the damage. I proposed to the Thruway Commission that local owners put up locally owned restaurants at each exit. That would make driving more interesting and keep fast food from threatening the feast of life. I imagine pork and sauerkraut at Exit 19, arugula salad at Exit 20, etc. I got confirmation that this was a good idea last Wednesday night as I sought nourishment in Ramapo.

Anyway, searching for my meat in due season, I realized there are only two franchises at Ramapo. One is McDonald's and the other is Uno's, a pizza place. I settled on the pizza place, only to observe that the warming tray was dead empty. I practically wept as I asked the young woman behind the counter if there was any hope for one such as I to get a pizza. "Sure," she said, "I'll make it fresh for you." "You will! How long will that take?"

My thoughts went utopian and my stomach gurgled. I was both thrilled at the idea of slow food on the Thruway and distraught at waiting for a freshly made pizza. She took care of my gurgle and left my utopia alone. "One and a half minutes," she said. So it was that I entered my own country of ambivalence about food. I want it slow and I want it fast. I want it local and I want it cheap. Mostly, when it comes to food, I want it now. When we have it now, it tends to taste like that "fresh" pizza in Ramapo. Its virtue was that it was warm. Its sin was that it was made of something that long ago was grain, the white flour and something long ago, the tomato, that was fruit. The cheese was no longer cheese and if the pepperoni ever was food, I'll be surprised. As I wolfed down my warm glob of chemicals, I thought about the sources of my food. In Florida the tomato pickers get a pittance a bushel. Nobody could possibly pay the migrant workers any more than that because otherwise I'd never get that round, warm, 800-calorie, nutritionally worthless globule for just $6.99. You have to add the truck and its gas, the middleman's middleman's middleman, the lawyers they hire to fight the migrants so they don't get more for picking the tomatoes.

Then there are advertising costs to make me want the pizza. The unionbusting lawyers who make sure the woman who made it fresh for me doesn't make too much money. Then there is the package, which is at least 11 percent of the product. They don't charge me for eating this stuff in the car while driving down the Thruway. That pleasure is free. The culture of fast food is amazingly conformist, boring, tasteless and unhealthy--and people think that the slow food movement is a "weird" idea. You figure. .....(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070709/schaper


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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:33 PM
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1. A pizza at a restaurant should take 15-20 minutes...
Period.

I'd have to be starving to eat something they threw out in a minute and a half. And I mean that pretty literally.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:53 PM
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3. A pizza oven is VERY hot and cooks a pizza in 90 seconds.
(ref: http://www.traditionaloven.com/) The rest of that 20 minutes consists of 15 minutes of waiting for your order to come to the top of the queue and 5 minutes of slapping ingredients on the dough.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:02 PM
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4. OT, but I recommned getting a "pizza stone" to emulate a convection oven. nt
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:08 PM
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5. I used to be a pizza chef...
It usually took about 10 minutes to cook, running through the old style oven.

I liked it like that.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 05:56 PM
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7. Ah. OK. My info was for old fashioned wood fired pizza ovens. (nt)
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:49 PM
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2. One reason the Red Apple Rest(aurant) is no more. Same for the Duck Cedar Inn
Edited on Mon Jun-25-07 03:51 PM by mcscajun
One lowbrow, one highbrow, both within shouting distance of the Thruway on Route 17 (the main road before the Thruway took over.)

I never, ever, ever stop at the Ramapo Service area - not even for gas. My sympathies go out to those who must.

On the plus side, the site of the former Duck Cedar Inn is slated for a light manufacturing business, which will create some decent jobs. The Red Apple Rest parking lot has been converted into a commuter parking lot for permit holders. Eh. :shrug:
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 09:32 PM
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8. Oh lord, I haven't thought of the Red Apple Rest in years
When I was a little kid, I adored that place. I think my parents would drive out of the way on our annual trip up to the Catskills just so I'd get my one chance a year to eat there. I don't even remember why I loved it, just that it somehow seemed magical to me when I was about 6 or 7.

Commuter parking lot? Screw 'em. I want my past back.

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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 06:57 AM
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9. There's a very slim (Extremely slim) chance that someone...
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 06:58 AM by mcscajun
may buy the Rest, repair the now-condemned building and reopen it, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Here's an article from early this year on the Rest's history, magic and demise:
http://www.strausnews.com/articles/2007/03/09/warwick_advertiser/news/24.txt There's a typo in the last paragraph; where the word "Places" begins a paragraph, it should read, "Planes".

:hi:
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:48 PM
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6. Americans in general eat for the way something feels, not taste
that's why beer commercials talk about how cold their beer is. Isn't the cold part up to me? I mean they only make what goes into the can, they don't make the can cold. Many other everyday foods have to be a certain temperature to be "good" - coffee, french fries, pizza (great cold actually but..) soups. Another chain restaurant talks about how good it is to "feel full." Once food is cheap and crappy is seems to be all about feel. The biggest trend is American food for the last 10 years has been to load it up caffeine. Red Bull, Jolt, etc.
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