Speigel: Evil Americans, Poor Mullahs

[unhappycamper]

Evil Americans, Poor Mullahs
By Claus Christian Malzahn

Forty-eight percent of Germans think the United States is more dangerous than Iran, a new survey shows, with only 31 percent believing the opposite. Germans' fundamental hypocrisy about the US suggests that it's high time for a new bout of re-education.

The Germans have believed in many things in the course of their recent history. They've believed in colonies in Africa and in the Kaiser. They even believed in the Kaiser when he told them that there would be no more political parties, only soldiers on the front.

Not too long afterwards, they believed that Jews should be placed into ghettos and concentration camps because they were the enemies of the people. Then they believed in the autobahn and that the Third Reich would ultimately be victorious. A few years later, they believed in the Deutsche mark. They believed that the Berlin Wall would be there forever and that their pensions were safe. They believed in recycling as well as in cheap jet travel. They even believed in a German victory at the soccer World Cup.

Now they believe that the United States is a greater threat to world peace than Iran. This was the by-no-means-surprising result of a Forsa opinion poll commissioned by Stern magazine. Young Germans in particular -- 57 percent of 18-to-29-year-olds, to be precise -- said they considered the United States more dangerous than the religious regime in Iran.

The German political establishment, which will no doubt loudly lament the result of the poll, is largely responsible for this wave of anti-Americanism. For years the country's foreign ministers fed the Germans the fairy tale of what they called a "critical dialogue" between Europe and Iran. It went something like this: If we are nice to the ayatollahs, cuddle up to them a bit and occasionally wag our fingers at them when they've been naughty, they'll stop condemning their women to death for "unchaste behavior" and they'll stop building the atom bomb.

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[Bob3]

1. this is gibberish isn't it?

I do like they way he a) blames everybody and ever thing except America for the 'current wave of anti-Americanism' and then does the 'you'll be sorry when the scary Arabs blow you up' dance as well.

Man needs new meds.

[MADem]

3. Not at all, really--he's swiping at the tendency to be "all or nothing" about the USA

As well as the tendency to shit on one group and handle the other with fearful kid gloves. It's an essay about hypocrisy, and there's plenty to go around:

For us Germans, the Americans are either too fat or too obsessed with exercise, too prudish or too pornographic, too religious or too nihilistic. In terms of history and foreign policy, the Americans have either been too isolationist or too imperialistic. They simply go ahead and invade foreign countries (something we Germans, of course, would never do) and then abandon them, the way they did in Vietnam and will soon do in Iraq.

Worst of all, the Americans won the war in 1945. (Well, with German help, of course -- from Einstein and his ilk.) There are some Germans who will never forgive the Americans for VE Day, when they defeated Hitler. After all, Nazism was just an accident, whereas Americans are inherently evil. Just look at President Bush, the man who, as some of SPIEGEL ONLINE's readers steadfastly believe, "is worse than Hitler." Now that gives us a chance to kill two birds with one stone. If Bush is the new Hitler, then we Germans have finally unloaded the Führer on to someone else....Anti-Americanism is the wonder drug of German politics. If no one believes what you're saying, take a swing at the Yanks and you'll be shooting your way back up to the top of the opinion polls in no time. And on the practical side, you can be the head of the Social Democratic Party and endear yourself to the party's hardcore with a load of anti-American nonsense, and still get invited back to Washington -- just look at Gerhard Schröder. In fact, you could, like leading German politicians in the debate over the planned American missile shield in Europe, be accused of having "an almost unbelievable lack of knowledge" by a former NATO general, and even that wouldn't matter. It's all about what you believe, not what you know.

Anti-Americanism is hypocrisy at its finest. You can spend your evening catching the latest episode of "24" and then complain about Guantanamo the next morning. You can claim that the Americans have themselves to blame for terrorism, while at the same time calling for tougher restrictions on Muslim immigration to Germany. You can call the American president a mass murderer and book a flight to New York the next day. You can lament the average American's supposed lack of culture and savvy and meanwhile send off for the documents for the Green Card lottery.

Not a day passes in Germany when someone isn't making the wildest claims, hurling the vilest insults or spreading the most outlandish conspiracy theories about the United States. But there's no risk involved and it all serves mainly to boost the German feeling of self-righteousness....Iran is a different story. The last time someone made a joke on German TV about an Iranian leader, the outcome was not pleasant. Exactly 20 years ago, Dutch entertainer Rudi Carell produced a short TV sketch portraying Ayatollah Khomeini dressed in women's underwear. Carell received death threats. The piece, which lasted all of a few seconds, led to flights being cancelled and German diplomats being expelled from Tehran. Carell apologized. Jokes about fat Americans are just safer.....

[MADem]

2. Iran could never join the EU, not with their standards of treatment of human beings

And while we as a nation are assholes in terms of the buziness in Iraq, we don't hang teenagers from cranes, we don't whip people in the street, and we don't execute people for being gay. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050815/kim

In fact, in the execution sweepstakes, we're pikers compared to China and Iran--they've cornered the market on the practice.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/080100-03.htm
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/02/15/iran15339.htm

But you can sit around all day and play the "Well, they do THIS" or "Well, we don't do THAT" game.

It's kinda unproductive. What needs discussing is the issue at hand, the nuke biz, on its own merits and in consultation with the neighborhood. Because that's the issue at hand.

The only context that matters, really, isn't their truly shitty human rights record, it's the essential stability of the government over the long haul (and that IS a bit iffy, say some, with or without US intervention).

[CJCRANE]

4. It's mainly anti-Bushism

not anti-Americanism, is my guess.

[crikkett]

5. we are dangerous.

We have more nukes than anyone else, lousy security, inept government bought and paid for by corporations bent on (continued and expanding) world domination and control.

In the Kindergarten of the world, we run with scissors and don't play well with others.