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CrisisPapers Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:42 AM
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Mainstream Media to Bloggers: Bug Off
| Ernest Partridge |

The internet has the mainstream journalists worried, and for good reason.

As the establishment sees it, millions of pajama clad amateurs are sitting at home pounding their keyboards and then uploading their uninformed, unedited and unrefined streams of consciousness, while print media circulation and TV News ratings continue to fall.

Accordingly, NBC's Brian Williams laments that as the public abandons the mainstream media, the nation will "miss the next great book or the next great idea, or that we will fail to meet the next great challenge... because we are too busy celebrating ourselves."

Despite the internet's manifest shortcomings, the Pew Research Center reports that in November, 2004, 29% of the adult population was getting its news from the internet.

The mainstream pros and pundits take a dim view of the internet. On ABC's "This Week," George Will opined: "It's about narcissism. So much of what is done on the web is people getting on there and writing their diaries as though everyone ought to care about everyone's inner turmoils. I mean, it's extraordinary." (December 12, 2006).

And CBS alumnus Eric Engberg reflects:

... unlike journalists, some blog operators who are quick to trash the MSM not only don't care about the veracity of the stories they are spreading, they do not understand when there is a live hand grenade on their keyboard. They appear not to care. Their concern is for controversy and "hits."

... (G)iven their lack of expertise, standards and, yes, humility, the chances of the bloggers replacing mainstream journalism are about as good as the parasite replacing the dog it fastens on.

And yet, if Pew Research and other opinion polls are to be believed, the internet is doing just that: replacing mainstream journalism.

But while the mainstream media is quick to blame the internet and the public for its declining relevance, it has scarcely a word to say about the primary cause of its troubles: namely, the mainstream media. The MSM is being undone by the convergence of three factors: people have memories, the advent of Google, and the permanence of the printed word.

The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it. (Omar Khayyam).

Thus the MSM today stands condemned by its own record: by crucially important news untold, and by lies and misinformation told. Untold: the full extent of the Iran-Contra scandal, George W. Bush's earlier drug addiction and his "early departure" from his Air National Guard obligation, the failure of UN inspectors to find WMDs in pre-war Iraq, electronic voting irregularities and fraud in the last four national elections. Lies and misinformation told: Bill Clinton's alleged (and eventually unfounded) misdeeds in the Whitewater affair, "travelgate," "filegate," etc., Al Gore's claim to have "invented the internet," Judith Miller's New York Times reports on Saddam's alleged WMD's, the Swift-Boat smear of John Kerry.

The internet is a spontaneous public response to these failures.

It was different fifty years ago, in the days of Edward R. Murrow, Howard K. Smith and Eric Sevaried, and as recently as thirty years ago, when The Washington Post was managed by Ben Bradlee and owned by Katherine Graham, who allowed two young reporters, Woodward and Bernstein, to investigate unhindered, come hell or high Watergate. Back then there were standards: independence, objectivity, investigation and research, confirmation of sources, unhindered presentation of authenticated facts.

The movie, "Good Night and Good Luck" accurately portrays the "wall of non-interference" between the CBS Network's News and Public Affairs Division, and the remaining operations of that commercial enterprise. That "wall" was likewise in effect in the other networks, ABC and NBC. All three networks accepted the considerable financial losses incurred by News and Public Affairs, in recognition of the fact that they were using the public airwaves and that they were required, by the Federal Communications Act, to operate in "the public interest, convenience, or necessity."

All that is gone now, replaced by the Milton Friedman rule: "the social responsibility of business is to increase its profits" (NYT, September 13, 1970). Shoved into the marketplace, TV news has morphed into "info-tainment," and commenced a race to the bottom - a race which, lamentably, is still in progress. And the print media follows, as more and more independent publications are absorbed into fewer and fewer giant media conglomerates.

In this vast wasteland of trivia and distraction, a few admirable remnants of responsible journalism are tolerated: Charlie Savage in Boston, Paul Krugman, Bob Herbert and Frank Rich at the New York Times, Dan Froomkin and E. J. Dionne at the Washington Post, columnists Molly Ivins and Helen Thomas, and virtually alone on Cable TV News, the courageous and uncompromised voice of Keith Olbermann. But these are the exceptions, and they are in constant peril, as Phil Donahue and Dan Rather can testify.

Into the depopulated media niche that was formerly comprised of independent and "reality-oriented" journalists, has come the internet, presenting news and offering opinion that is rarely found in the mainstream media. And admittedly, this news and opinion is accompanied by the undisciplined outpouring from the hordes of narcissistic, ill-informed, naively opinionated amateurs that annoy the likes of George Will. The emergence of this new media is timely, significant and also perhaps inevitable and irrepressible.

It has happened many times before. When established media becomes the obedient servant of the governing elites and diverse and dissenting opinion is withheld from the public, new media emerge, often in the "underground" and often brutally suppressed by the government. In the American Revolution, there were the "Committees of Correspondence." In the pre-Glasnost Soviet Union, print media were smuggled in and broadcasts were beamed in from the Voice of America and Radio Free Europe. Within the Soviet Union, "Samizdat" emerged: the production and circulation of laboriously typed manuscripts, at great personal risk to those who wrote, duplicated and distributed these works. (See my "The American Samizdat"). During the reign of the Shah, Iranian dissidents duplicated and distributed audiotapes, and the protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989 communicated with "the outside world" through FAXes and the nascent internet.

The complaint of establishment journalists that the internet is composed overwhelmingly of worthless junk is difficult to respond to, for the plain and simple reason that it is true. But it is an irrelevant truth. There are gems amongst the garbage - the "blogorrhea" as John McQuaid aptly calls it. He writes: "if there are (as reported, almost) 100 million blogs, if only 1 percent of them don't suck, and 1 percent of those are excellent, and 1 percent of those are works of true, George Will-approved genius, that's 100 "genius" blogs. There's got to be a Paine or a Franklin in there somewhere."

And that one percent of one percent (10,000) of "excellent" websites contain a wealth of news and opinion, not to be found in the mainstream media.
  • Selections from the free and independent foreign press: Le Monde from France, The Guardian in England, The Globe and Mail in Toronto, Canada, just to name a few.

  • Selections from the remnant liberal and progressive publications.

  • Reports from self-exiled professional journalists who choose to work outside the establishment, such as Greg Palast, Robert Parry, Josh Marshall, and Chris Floyd.

  • Informed opinion from former government officials, such as Paul Craig Roberts, Brent Budowsky, John Dean, Elizabeth de la Vega, Karen Kwiatkowsky and Ray McGovern.

  • Analyses by seasoned academics such as Robert Jensen, Gary Leupp, George Lakoff, Juan Cole, and Noam Chomsky.
I could name hundreds more, equally worthy of mention. But these are a few names that come immediately to mind.

Back in the days when the mainstream media was, to some degree, responsible and reliable, the "filtering" of incoming material was performed by editors and reviewers. (A task that I have performed hundreds of times in my academic career, rejecting a vast majority of manuscripts sent to me for review).

Given the overwhelming glut of unedited and unreviewed words spewed out in the internet, each individual reader must now become his and her personal "editor." Here are some guidelines for internet users who must rake through all the "blogorrhea" to find the gems therein.
  • Check out the foreign press websites, and also the many websites that select items from the foreign press. In addition, visit the websites of print publications that you have learned to trust. (E.g., The New Yorker, The Nation, The New York Review, etc.)

  • Check the qualifications of the writers. But be open to the possibility that some "amateur" might have something to say. Remember that Tom Paine's profession was a corset-maker. And Gore Vidal is a college drop-out.

  • Study the art and science of critical thinking, and thus acquire a functioning "BS Detector." Acquaint yourself with common fallacies and propaganda techniques. For many years, I have assigned, and highly recommend, Logic and Contemporary Rhetoric by Howard Kahane, (Wadsworth). There are numerous other excellent texts, which you can find at your local college bookstore. Critical thinking websites are listed here.

  • Use your memory, or failing that, use Google to search out the past record of the mainstream media, its reporters and its commentators. For example, read the unanimous MSM praise of Colin Powell's eventually discredited February 2003 speech to the Security Council.

  • Applying these skills, find out which writers are worth reading, and which are not.
Finally, do not lament the plight of the mainstream media - the declining circulations and ratings. Instead, accelerate the process. Boycott the sponsors of the info-tainment, and encourage others to do so. The mainstream media are, fundamentally, businesses with responsibilities to their stockholders. Facing serious economic losses, at least some of the MSM might at last get the message from the public and decide to practice authentic journalism again.

In the meantime, support your favorite websites. Many rely entirely on user donations.

-- EP
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:11 AM
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1. MSM has a FLAW
They constantly subvert the real news for the republican version. They follow along in the republican footsteps never ever verifying what they print. The Barbara Boxer non issue was a perfect case. People are tired of them. They want the truth about things, they want to be informed about real happenings. Run a way bride and Tom Cruise's baby and Madonna's latest adoption just doesn't cut it any more, when people are dying in Iraq, and starving in this great rich country because of bush's policies.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:18 PM
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7. Adults like to be well informed and the MSM has dropped the ball.
When they pick it up..people will gravitate back towards them. They all seemed to have modeled their news of Fox who treats their viewers like stupid narcissistic children. And people just run away from that. Only the shows that treat viewers like informed adults are doing well..K.O. and the Daily Show as examples.
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rebeccahon Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:57 PM
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31. Bloggers to MSM: "Do your job and we won't have too."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:13 AM
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2. Excellent Points, as usual.
Thanks.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:41 AM
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3. I wrote this nearly two years ago
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 11:48 AM by rocknation
...(The) Bush White House HAS embarrassed and scared the MSM, but that's only half the story. Their real problem is that they're being double-teamed--the NON-mainstream media are scaring and embarrassing them, too.

The MSM has been perfectly happy to go along with Bush's fake news videos, scripted press conferences, prepackaged talking points, and payoffs. More important, they were also able to dismiss the Will Pitts, Greg Palasts, Daily Kozes, and Mike Malloys as part of a luntatic fringe who commanded neither credibility nor respect. But then the Gannongate swung open!

...(The) MSM got scooped, caught completely flat-footed...Even worse for them, the authors of Gannongate did what journalists are SUPPOSED to do--TELL THE TRUTH completely, accurately, comprehensively, and objectively. The MSM's response was to accuse bloggers of working in basements in their pajamas and looking at the world "through a pinhole;" turn Wonkette into the Al Sharpton of liberal blogging; and make CNN's Aaron Brown come across like a father grounding his son when he interviewed BlogAmerica's founder. Also, CNN has gone as far as to hire a "blog reporter" so viewers didn't have to waste time going online to read their stories anymore.

With the public now wondering who else is on President Mightymouse's payroll, or if Jeff Gannon kept an appointment book, the right wing noise machine has got a couple of crater-sized dents in it. And if (the White House press corps) felt driven to have this kind of a meeting, it must be showing up in the ratings!

link


As for you, Mr. Williams, why shouldn't we prefer celebrating our ability to get at the truth no matter who it hurts over celebrating your commercial, corporate, and political masters? Especially since WE NO LONGER NEED YOU to sell our great books and ideas anymore? And as for "meeting great challenges," did you miss the last U.S. election, and the role the Internet played?

P.S. Was I right about Wonkette, who is now an editor at Time.com, or what?

:headbang:
rocknation
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:00 PM
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4. Deer in the headlights. nt
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:09 PM
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5. You Nailed It!
...more than 5 years ago I wrote to all the "mainstream" media and told them I was boycotting them. I knew I was just one lonely person, and now it is both sad as well as comforting that I am no longer alone. Still I cannot help but notice that much of the postings here on DU come from them.

I was fortunate enough to have studied Marshall McCLuhen (sp?) in the late '60s. It helped me to form critical thought as well as question the media. The thing that stood out the most that affected me at that young age was that propaganda is formed by the very choice the media makes for "news" ~ what they decide we hear. Thanks to that teaching, my disconnect went went into overdrive in the 1990's with the Monica barrage o' crap ...

My 2 cents

Cat In Seattle
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:57 PM
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13. The irony is
that although most of us here agree that the msm is full of crap, unless the story is picked up and reported by the msm, the information is too often considered tinfoil. That is what I find the most frustrating thing about DU.

Rules for posting in LBN

5. Whenever possible, post excerpts and links from reputable mainstream news sources that are available online. Do not link to blogs, vanity sites, or blatantly biased sources, except in cases where reputable mainstream sources are not available. Please make an effort to link directly to the original source of an article, instead of linking to sites that have re-published someone else's content, or re-packaged someone else's content as their own. The moderators have the authority to decide which websites are appropriate for posting in the Latest Breaking News forum and which are not.
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 04:35 PM
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16. Wow! Thanks For the Reminder!
...I have not read those rules for awhile and this is why I see so much of the MSM quoted here, huh? Yeah, the millions of people who protested the war were ignored, called a "focus group" and it was a, "move along, nothing to see here ..." mentality.

Maybe we should suggest DU publish a list of whom they consider "mainstream media" nowadays. Perhaps it should be revisited. Maybe we should post a question about that?

Thanks for pointing that out. It gives me some food for thought. Hmmmm

Cat
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:53 PM
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20. To be fair, there's a fine line
And it's not so easily quantifiable.

For instance, people have posted David Icke "bulletins" as latest breaking news.

And I think that the mainstream sources rule came about as a result of the many, many complaints about Matt Drudge being cited in LBN. You chose to highlight the word "mainstream" from "reputable mainstream news sources." I choose instead to focus on the "reputable" qualifier. And it's not that those stories are stifled, just that there are other pages to post them.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:10 PM
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23. I think the concept of that rule is good, but the wording needs to change
I know the mods would not strike a well documented page from an independent source being posted in Latest Breaking News, their main concern is that if you don't have some rules you have people posting crap from message boards that have no credibility whatsoever. It is not always an easy task seperating the credible sources from the not-so-credible and I think that is why they chose to use the words "mainstream sources" in the rules. Of course the mods are ultimately the ones that decide what "mainstream" means, just as they would be the ones who ultimately decide what "credible" means. If they changed the wording from "mainstream" to "credible" it would definitely be more in line with the message DU wants to put out.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:17 PM
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6. K&R. nt
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:32 PM
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8. Come on, yall, let's get this one on Greatest. nt
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:03 PM
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9. The internet may be the new "vast wasteland"
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 02:03 PM by rocknation
But it's OUR vast wasteland!

:headbang:
rocknation
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:08 PM
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10. Yeah. Today we'll challenge your credibility and tomorrow we're
coming after your Nantucket homes.

LOL!
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:12 PM
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11. This is great. Thanks.
And the links and book.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:52 PM
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12. "George Will opined: "It's about narcissism."
POT.KETTLE.BLACK

If ever there was a poster child for the "self-important psuedo-intellectual, Will would be it.

Followed closely by the equally vacant David Brooks.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:26 PM
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14. I stopped watching the news in 98
when the corporate fools gave us all Monica all the time. My local paper may soon be on the chopping block, but they occasionally print my letters. Their recent lurch rightward will result in lost circulation. Wingnuts generally don't read. They like Murdoch's NY Post with its flashy headlines and pictures.
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freefall Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 04:30 PM
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15. "29% of the adult population was getting its news from the internet."
Yeah!! WooHoo! This is such great news. Personally, I get all my news from the internet -- DU, commondreams.org, alternet.org and others. I find I know so much more about what is going on in the world and my info is more accurate than most of my family and friends. It is also more accurate than my Senators and Representative.

I hadn't watched TV in years then a month ago I moved into a house sharing situation. There are three TVs in the house for two people. None of the TVs are mine. I have however watched TV quite a lot lately a habit I am fighting with some success this week (CSPAN only). I am appalled by our culture. Incredibly appalled. It is enough to depress me and make me believe that we have no chance against the administration's deviant behavior never mind against global warming.

The information that 29% of adults are getting their news from the internet is a rare sliver of hope.

Peace,

freefall
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 08:02 AM
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26. "The internet"? That could easily be the websites of the MSM
After all, the most popular website in the UK is the BBC. Without knowing the breakdown of that 29%, the figure is pretty meaningless for this discussion.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:32 PM
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17. What about journos who have blogs?
Or online news outlets? I don't like this nonsense take on the credibility of bloggers and journalists who blog.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:35 PM
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18. oops, i did not read
the whole thing and took the block text out of context... great piece:)
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:53 PM
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19. To Summarize: Nature Abhors a Vacuum
Superb article. Thanks.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:58 PM
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21. But...but...but... We're TIME's PERSON OF THE YEAR! nt
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 10:01 PM by cyberpj
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marchtoimpeach Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:53 PM
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22. Nationwide Impeachment March
It's time to leave the MSM behind, and we have the tools to do so.

A growing number of us feel that something dramatic is necessary to force accountability of Bush. We're putting out a call for a MASSIVE nationwide convergence on Washington to demand that that Congress impeach Bush NOW.

This wouldn't be part of an antiwar march or any other political demonstration (important as those are). It would be a separate event with one unequivocal purpose: calling for the impeachment of the President.

There are no organizers of this event. Or, rather, everybody who wants to be involved is an organizer. This is a grassroots DIY open-source wikiflashmob revolution, harnessing the tools that have evolved over the last several years. Never has it been so possible for millions of people around this country to self-organize something they believe in.

A website has been set up at www.marchtoimpeach.com as an initial information node to get the ball rolling, but if this is going to work everybody needs to make this their own and spread it around. Are we smart enough and sophisticated enough and pissed off enough to get a million people to DC to demand Bush's impeachment?

Let's find out.

www.marchtoimpeach.com
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:31 PM
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24. Newsrooms themselves couldn't function without the web
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 11:42 PM by Dover
They are dependent on it too. And talk about narcissism and JUNK? Have you turned on your t.v. lately? What truth did you find? Before we get too nostalgic for the 'good ole days' of news, remember that it's always been a tool of propaganda.


I lost my internet service for a few days once, relying instead on the t.v. for my news. I was in a panic as though someone had taken away some vital function like air or water! My senses felt deprived of one of their important functions which disrupted my whole equilibrium. A very frustrating and eye-opening experience.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 02:35 AM
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25. A necessary point
that needs to be restated is the fundamental nature of a for profit, business run information/national forum "free press". Touting the good days when the corporations deigned to allow better, freer journalism
obscures an inherent flaw far greater than any revealing abuse. When money owns the press, money talks. FAIR came to that conclusion when trying to unravel the problems with the modern media, the good and bad days, the rise and fall.

The diaspora of journalism among the barbarian hordes itself has the character that can grow and produce
the goals of journalism. Corporate models must degrade and decline, the faster the better if the lesson is ever to be learned and Faith in corporate news shown to be false and ruinous. Good journalism itself can appear anywhere. There can be good and bad monarchies, republicans, communism, etc. The wars of individuals in the breakup and decentralization, the chaos, the revolution are blinding societies to the
root causes. The cacophony of professional paid lies and measured debates meets the cacophony of devastating truth emerging from the static of primitive forums of the masses.

As a result one must critique the source and source of sources. The foreign press can be corporate, is tinged with cultural bias and poisoned at the same wells where so many swollen bodies of US press cattle lie putrefying in expensive suits. Even the wildest Internet rebels bounce off the cues and ideas of the MSM shibboleths, inhibiting and distracting and spinning from a better pursuit of truth. Wild in the necessary quest to tear down the idols of corporate journalism, the corporate globe has no ideal promised land for the really free press to live in. The immense nature of human awakening and change is afire in stage one while the old guard mumbles about putting the world back to its restless, haunted sleep inside the Matrix. Such are these times.
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gratebrw Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 08:32 AM
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27. George Will
Wow! George Will speaking of narcissism. Why wear that ugly tie unless you display narcissist tendencies?

His elaborate editorial swill demonstrates his inner/outer narcissist. I guess most of the white overclass possess this trait. Keep blogging and perhaps they will get the point? They, the in denial narcissists,are wrong, immoral, and dangerous to our world.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 09:31 AM
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29. George Will calling someone a narcissist
is like Hugh Hefner calling someone a pimp.

Welcome to DU, Gratebrw!

:hi:
rocknation
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 09:06 AM
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28. I have rarely read an MSM news story pertaining to a subject I knew well
that managed to get all the facts straight.

Many MSM reporters are just too busy to take the time to get it right, I think. Sometimes it's the editors rewriting stuff to meet an agenda. Sometimes I think they just don't care.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:08 AM
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30. Bloggers to MSM: **Yawn** ... I'm sorry, you said something? n/t
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