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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:34 AM
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Republicans hoping for a "Big Event" aka terrorist hit to save the Day
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 11:48 AM by Fluffdaddy
Granted this is only my take on this Neo-Cons Fred Barnes Article. I put in " " the part I'm talking about. The Re-Pubs are running scared

"The problem here is that national security isn't the leading campaign issue. And saying it should be won't make it so. What's needed is an event--a big event--to crystallize the issue in a way that highlights Republican strength and Democratic weakness. It was two events--the foiled British terrorist plot and the need to comply with a Supreme Court decision on handling captured terrorists--that led to the Republican mini-rally in September."

"Of course there's little time left for a major event to occur. The North Korean bomb test wasn't big enough to change the course of the campaign. So Republicans may have to rely on their two remaining assets: They have more money than the Democrats and a voter turnout operation second to none."



Fred Barnes: How Bad Will it Be?
The Weekly Standard ^ | 10.23.06 | Fred Barnes


REPUBLICANS and conservatives, brace yourselves! Strategists and consultants of both parties now believe the House is lost and House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi will become speaker. At best, Republicans will cling to control of the Senate by a single seat, two at most. For many election cycles, Republicans have been the boys of October, using paid media and superior campaign skills to make up lost ground and win in November.

This year, they were the boys of September, rallying strongly until that fateful day, September 29, when the Mark Foley scandal erupted. October has been a disaster so far. A strong finishing kick for Republicans, minimizing Democratic gains, is possible. They pulled one off brilliantly in President Bush's first midterm election in 2002. But recovery will be harder this time, a lot harder.

The press is fixated on the so-called generic ballot--Do you want a Democratic or Republican Congress?--as an indicator of Republican setbacks on November 7. But that gauge has rarely been predictive. Two others are more reliable: presidential approval and party enthusiasm. And they tell an ominous story for Republicans about the difference between 2002 and 2006.

Presidential approval correlates with how the president's party fares in midterm elections. It's simple: High approval is linked to election success, low approval to defeat. In October 2002, with Bush's approval at 62 percent in the Gallup Poll, Republicans won six seats in the House and two in the Senate. Now Bush is at 37 percent in Gallup. The inescapable conclusion is that Bush lacks the clout with the public he had four years ago. To make matters worse, presidents associated with unpopular wars are historically a drag on their parties (Truman, LBJ).

The most overlooked election indicator is the level of voter enthusiasm. In every election from 1994 through 2004, Republicans were more enthusiastic than Democrats. That was a decade of Republican growth. This year Democrats are more excited. And it's measurable. In 2002, 42 percent of Republicans said they were more enthusiastic than usual about the election. Thirty-eight percent of Democrats said the same. In 2006, the numbers have flipped. Republican enthusiasm has dipped to 39 percent and Democratic enthusiasm has jumped to 48 percent. Enthusiasm affects turnout. Gloomy voters are less inclined to vote.

The Foley scandal did two things, both harmful to Republicans. It stopped Republican momentum in its tracks. (Also contributing to this were the negative spin on Iraq from Bob Woodward's book State of Denial and the faulty reporting on the National Intelligence Estimate.) And it changed the narrative of the campaign from one emphasizing national security, a Republican strength, to one emphasizing Republican malfeasance in Washington and dysfunction in Iraq.

Democrats were lucky, as they have been all year. They had fallen into a trap set by Republicans on the interrogation of high-level terrorist detainees. They voted against the compromise reached by the White House and Senator John McCain, choosing to protect civil liberties for terrorists over national security. That issue, a powerful one for Republicans, was pushed aside in the Foley frenzy.

Earlier in 2006, events had intervened to snuff out a recovery by Bush and Republicans in its embryonic stage. After a bumpy 2005 (Katrina, rising Iraq violence, failure of Social Security reform, Harriet Miers), Bush's approval was inching upward, pointing to an end to his second-term slump. Instead, Vice President Cheney's accidental shooting of a hunting pal, the Dubai ports fiasco, and the bombing of the Golden Dome mosque in Iraq combined to prolong the slump--until the short-lived September surge.

If politics were fair, Democrats would be in as much trouble as Republicans. And they'd be just as vulnerable. They've been obstructionist, anti-tax-cut, soft on terrorism, and generally obnoxious. On top of that, Pelosi is the most unpopular national politician in America. But in the sixth year of the Bush presidency, with a GOP-run Congress, Democrats aren't the issue. Republicans are.

This explains why efforts by Bush and Republicans to target Democrats have been so unsuccessful. A veteran Republican consultant says lavish spending on TV commercials in races he's involved in has largely failed to either boost the poll numbers of his Republican candidates or drive down those of Democrats. Worse, in blue states, the Democratic crossover vote on which Republican candidates often rely has dried up. Democrats have gone home in droves.

In his stump speeches, the president concentrates on terror and taxes. And the contrast he draws between terror-fighting, tax-cutting Republicans and wimpy, taxaholic Democrats is reasonably accurate. But it's failing to attract independents or lure disgruntled conservatives back to the Republican fold.

Should Democrats capture the House, "they would raise your taxes and figure out new ways to spend your money," Bush said at a rally in Chicago last week. "It's amazing what happens when you cut taxes. The economy grows you end up with more tax revenues." On national security, he said, "If the security of the United States is the most important issue, then part of this issue is which party has been willing to step up and give those charged with protecting you the tools necessary to do so." He didn't need to identify which party has and which hasn't.



"The problem here is that national security isn't the leading campaign issue. And saying it should be won't make it so. What's needed is an event--a big event--to crystallize the issue in a way that highlights Republican strength and Democratic weakness. It was two events--the foiled British terrorist plot and the need to comply with a Supreme Court decision on handling captured terrorists--that led to the Republican mini-rally in September."

"Of course there's little time left for a major event to occur. The North Korean bomb test wasn't big enough to change the course of the campaign. So Republicans may have to rely on their two remaining assets: They have more money than the Democrats and a voter turnout operation second to none."

Read the whole Article Link below

Link.. Take a bath after going there........LOL
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/817vxgub.asp
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:42 AM
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1. If politics were fair? Thanks for the chuckle freddy
and Nancy Pelosi is the most unpopular National Politician in America??? Oh fred, you should go into comedy with limbaugh.

bush gave the troops the tools necessary? Stop fred you are killing me.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:44 AM
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2. No kidding. I bet 75% of the population has never heard her name.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:31 PM
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12. Yep. Freddy would have us believe that more people wake up every morning
cursing Nancy Pelosi than wake up cursing Dick Chaney or George Bush. He is living in a state of denial.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:45 AM
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3. a: There was no Republican "momentum." Nada.
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 11:46 AM by aquart
b: We already know how Republicans react to BIG events and we're terrified of letting them manage another one.

c: We already know that Bush's tax cuts for the rich did NOT grow the economy for US. It grew nicely for obscenely rich CEOs but we are faced with rising prices on everything.

d: We hope the Dems WILL figure out new ways to spend our money: health care, renewable energy, stem cell research. All of this has been starved and stunted under BushCo's regressive empire.

Barnes is blaming Foley but voters are telling pollsters they had already decided not to vote Republican. Foley didn't change their minds.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:45 AM
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4. Too many sour grapes ...
can give a person verbal diarrhea, Mr. Barnes.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:54 AM
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5. Well this was not meant for us. It is a crying towel for freepers.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:01 PM
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7. Agreed. But I believe in keep your friends close and your enemies closer
I love reading how the freepers/GOP thinks.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:58 AM
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6. This lie needs to be exposed every day, that Democrats wish to "protect
civil liberties for terrorists." This is referring to our desire to retain the right of habeas corpus. Fred Barnes may be satisfied that one can be convicted without having gone to trial—witness his use of "terrorists", not "suspected terrorists"—and Fred Barnes may think it is just ducky that George Bush can imprison you forever if he feels like it, but long ago democratic societies decided that the right to confront your accuser in court, or have a government have to prove that it indeed has a case against you, is a right that belongs to everyone. And if it's taken away for some, it's taken away for all. My fervent fantasy is that someday an administration decides that Fred Barnes is an enemy of the state, and imposes these things on him. Then he will wish these rights still existed, as he tries in vain to fight the mistaken accusation.

You are supposed to be innocent till proven guilty. That's gone now. This was supposed to be a government of laws, not men. That's gone now. And that's the doing of the Republican Party. Someday the Republicans will be horrified at what they have done.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:15 PM
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8. Isn't it strange? The phones that shold be tapped (Republicans) for
contacts with terrorists are not being tapped ... but have Aunt Martha jokingly say "It's the bomb" and you'll have someone on her case ... if she's a registered Dem ...

I say that there should be a parody of the Repuke ads ... where the voiceover says about how the Dems don't want to tap the phones of terrorists ... just have it that, after the person on the phone hangs up (after the conversation saying about going ahead with a terrorist strike), the camera pulls back to see a picture of George W. Bush on the desk with "To my good friend" and Senator/Rep whatever Republiconvict ...
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:17 PM
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9. The Republicans are losers
BUT they're cheaters.

That's it in a nutshell.

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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:26 PM
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10. And they been very good at cheating for the past 6 years
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:26 PM
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11. In other words weasely little Fred Barnes is hoping for a major terrorist
on the U.S. before November just so his party can hang on to power. How patriotic of him.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:29 PM
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13. That's the way I read it also
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:36 PM
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14. what a pant load
"(Democrats have) been obstructionist, anti-tax-cut, soft on terrorism, and generally obnoxious." - WTF????? Obstructionist meaning what - we don't rubber-stamp every fascist piece of shit the repukes barf up? Dems are not anti-tax cut - we are anti-tax cuts for the obscenely-rich. Soft on terrorism - how would they know? WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN POWER SINCE THE REPUKES STARTED THE PHONY WAR ON TERROR. And OBNOXIOUS? - coming from repukes that is RICH.
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drb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:25 PM
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15. ...and don't you just know Karl is on the phone to Osama right now! nt
nt
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