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The_Farouk Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:23 PM
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Useless Democrats
A Whig's Worth of Difference?
Useless Democrats
By DAVE LINDORFF

The past few weeks have amply demonstrated why the Democratic Party is headed for history's scrap heap.

At a time when the vast majority of Americans have concluded that the president is a lying incompetent and, most likely, something of a nutcase and a Johnny One-Note, and that his vice president is a secrecy-obsessed booze-swiller lacking in basic decency and human feelings (and a bad shot into the bargain), at a time when most Americans think that the administration's single enduring legacy--a three year war in Iraq--was a stupid idea, at a time when the White House has been caught violating the law and spying massively on ordinary Americans, at a time when virtually every major domestic policy initiative of this administration, from education to homeland security to Medicare, has proven to be an unmitigated disaster, the nation's leading Democrats have been galvanized around ... the sale of port operations on the East Coast to a firm based in Dubai.

Of all the venal, stupid and evil things this administration has done over the past five years, this is probably the least significant you could come up with.

The port of Long Beach, California was long ago turned over to a state company owned by the Communist government of China--a country it might be recalled, whose military leaders not long ago threatened to attack the U.S. with nuclear weapons if America were to interfere with China's efforts to capture the island nation of Taiwan. Nobody's fussing about that.

The truth is that with the long-standing mob involvement in East Coast longshoring, not to mention the general stench of corruption that has been attached to the whole cargo transhipment industry since the days of "On the Waterfront," anyone who wanted to slip some horrible weapon into a container could do it for a lot less money that it takes to buy up a global port operations firm.

Heck, a suitcase nuke could as easily be brought into the city and checked with the concierge at a midtown New York hotel...and most of the hotel industry is also in the hands of foreigners. Where's the outrage?

If Democrats are so concerned about foreign companies buying up critical U.S. industries, they should take a look at the international trade agreements they've been foisting on the country, from NAFTA and CAFTA to the WTO, and to budget-busting tax cut policies that have been turning the U.S. dollar into a joke currency--and all American assets into firesale items.

The country is being hollowed out not by Bush and the Republicans, but by the two parties, working hand-in-hand to serve the interests of the global corporations that are ready to shift capital in a flash to wherever it can generate the best return. And guess what? The best return is not earned here.

Forget port operations.

My prediction is that it won't be long before foreign companies will start buying up the U.S. technology, aerospace, energy and telecommunications sectors.

Why not?

So what should Democrats be getting wound up about? How about a society in which one in ten families has to seek food assistance every year? How about a society where the average worker is seeing her income decline every year (down 2.6% between 2001 and 2004), and where real unemployment is rising towards 10 percent? How about a society in which schools have become factory assembly lines producing future burger flippers, endless numbers of sales clerks, and, of course, lots of unemployed and unemployable young people who end up serving as cannon fodder for the U.S. military?

How about a country that is spending more on the military than the rest of the entire world combined so that crazed militarists in the White House and Pentagon can operate over 400 military bases around the globe, meddle in the business of most of the rest of the nations of the world, and engage in major wars that are sucking up hundreds of billions of dollars a year?

If all that the Democratic leadership, and Democratic presidential hopefuls can get worked up about is something like the sale of port operations to an Arab-based company (or in the pathetic Sen. Hillary Clinton's case, the threat of someone burning an American flag!), the Democratic Party is properly going the way of the Whigs.

And none too fast.

Dave Lindorff is the author of Killing Time: an Investigation into the Death Row Case of Mumia Abu-Jamal. His new book of CounterPunch columns titled "This Can't be Happening!" is published by Common Courage Press. Information about both books and other work by Lindorff can be found at www.thiscantbehappening.net.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:28 PM
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1. I like the use of "whig" - but his rant comes with no solutions
What positiuons should the Democratic Party - or any Party - have to both win elections and fix the problems?
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:13 PM
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9. Dontcha think THEY should be able to figure it out???
I shouldn't need to tell them. They aren't listening. They aren't representing me.

Sorry but Im p*ssed not at you but them.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:48 PM
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12. no problem - and I suspect the party has solutions- indeed I expect a list
of to-do's to be promised if we get control of the House and Senate.

I will join you in being pissed if the Democratic Party does not release such a list soon - together with sign on to the list statements by the vast majority of our candidates.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:29 PM
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2. NADER alert!
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 02:31 PM by Selatius
This guy is using the "they're both the same" argument again.

Oh, where have I heard this rhetoric before! :sarcasm:

In all honestly, I find little criticism with what the writer says. It is as if small capitalists are found among Democrats and big capitalists are found among Republicans. They both stand in support of private ownership over resources everybody needs to live.
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cdsilv Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:31 PM
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3. looks like someone is trying to sell some of his books.....n/t
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:32 PM
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4. As Salaam Alaikum
and welcome to DU :hi:
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The_Farouk Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:34 PM
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5. Wa Aliekum Salam
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:35 PM
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6. K&R ....The guy is not wrong...
Democrats may not like to hear it, but so far the Democrats have not been a real opposition party - not the way that their country needs them to be.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:36 PM
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7. we get worked up over all kinds of crap
in case Lindorff was too busy working on his manifesto to notice.

Plus democrats are not a uniform mass of clones.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:07 PM
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14. He's talking about Congressional Dems -- which you're not
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:46 PM
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8. Yeah, how about that? This is making the news big time ONLY . . .
because the Republicans are agreeing with us.

Every issue you raised above, we've been fighting for and working for change for years. . . not just this one. You see, this is news because the majority is disturbed by this as well. Plus, we are not at war with China. We are at war with a religiously driven Continent that no matter what we do, if we are allies of Israel, we are still the all evil.

Regarding Hillary Clinton's remarks about desecrating the American Flag. Did you notice we did not riot and destroy property and kill each other and kill other innocent people. The Arab World went a little psychotic from some cartoons showing the image (caricature to be honest) of Mohamed. Then a 1200-year-old Golden-Dome Mosque is blown up and IMMEDIATELY the Jews did it with the US's help.

I have tried to hard to understand the way things are but there is no understanding to such cruelty in the name of a God. Yeah (the crusades, templer Knights, etc.). I'm talking about NOW. I don't see anything like that going on today.

00000000000crying now that Israel won't be paying the Palestinians (Arabs that have given themselves that name just this century). Israel pays $55 million a month to the Palestinian Authority, but yet 70% of the Palestinian Arabs live on $2 a day. The US gives them in AID $200 million a year (Of which $2 million a week (I believe) still goes to Suha Arafat and she and Yassar's daughter and adopted sons in Paris); yet, the Palestinian Arabs still live in squalor. Why doesn't the Palestinian Authority tell their people about this arrangement. Not too long ago she obtained ALL of Arafat's medical records. Wonder why she did that? Maybe they were trying to lower her obsessively greedy monthly support? Who knows.

The majority of the Arab Countries hate us and everything we stand for, yet they will take our money, and use the technology of today for their communication with each other as well as laundering their money, mostly through Dubai.

I posted an article earlier that told where Dubai gave $100 million to the U.S. for Katrina Aid. They also gave (a while back) $1 million towards the George Bush Museum (didn't specify 41 or 43).


OKAY. This is weird. I tried to type the terrorist group's name H*****s up above and then the screen changed to all zeros and moved my cursor to the bottom of the page.

What is going on here? Paranoia on my part?????? It won't let me change those zeros or O's off the page either.
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The_Farouk Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 06:30 PM
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17. huh?
Uh, the article I posted was about mostly about failure of democratic leadership whether its real or peceived is up to debate. However, you have used this to deny teh existence of a people (palestinians) and further spread more Islamphobia.

Im relativly new to this board so I will reserve harsher comments as I dont know where you may be coming from. Perhaps I am wrong, but you seem to hold come very very contradicory views that others Dems have. Namely, you want to support human rights and providing services to the needy, but when it comes to the human rights of Palestinians, your out to lunch.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:05 PM
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18. I'm not trying to offend you or anyone.
I'm just stating my opinion, which I have a right to. As far as harsher comments, better watch how harsh or they will delete you. DU is not a democracy it is an owned board by some private citizens and has built up over the years. It's the most popular Democratic site I think. I pay a monthly amount to help keep them going just like a lot of members do; however, you can still come and post anything here free as well.

I honestly do not feel that the Palestenians are any different then the other 20+ Arab countries that surround them. Why don't their Arab brothers help them? Not by going in and killing Jews but financially? Maybe they do and if so, I'd like to know where you got your information.

Also, with just what Israel pays in taxes as well as the U.S. gives the Palestenian authority, not one person should live in squalor . . . not one.

As far as Arafats widow is concerned, that is obscene.

Welcome to DU :hi:
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:19 PM
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10. thnx, my sentiments exactly
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 03:36 PM by Kashka-Kat
been somewhat bewildered by the intensity of reaction re: this ports issue and cheneys drunken shooting rampage.

meanwhile, patriot act (w insufficient revision) passes w/ nary a whimper, congress caving on NSA oversite seems eminent, foreign policy disasters, impending middle east conflagration, etc. etc. etc.

DISPLACED AGGRESSION I think it's called...
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:34 PM
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11. forgot to tmention-- the issue is really leadership or lack of
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 03:35 PM by Kashka-Kat
its easier to latch onto and exploit our collective fear of al queda in a Rovian kind of way -- rather than devise an effective counter response to the more compllicated, harder to understand issues like patriot act or NSA.

I expect better, I want better, and I think the country is more than ready for it. It used to be that people, before we were maniuplated into extreme polarities, commonly voted for different parties--to provide balance. I think people are ready to go back to doing that now, having seen the disasterous effects of single party government.

WELL, for that to happen-- there desparately needs to be an effective, honest, straightforward, opposition party. Sorry, dem party, but ignore that advice at your own peril.

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:24 PM
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13. why blame Republicans when you can blame Democrats?
more horseshit from the Counterpunch crew.

what a bunch of whining, snivelling, piss and moaners.

anyone can point out what's wrong with the world...



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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:08 PM
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15. Link?
And you probably posted a little much for what passes as Fair Use here at DU. Just a friendly tip. They usually like 4 paragraphs max.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 06:01 PM
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16. Do I smell another Nader run for President? nt
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