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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:50 AM
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A Warning From Iran For George W. Bush
A Warning From Iran For George W. Bush
November 10, 2005
Tehrantimes.com

Hello Mr. Bush. As an Iranian journalist who has been following international developments for over thirty years, I would first of all like to inform you of some facts which might help you adopt correct political stances in regard to the Middle East.

The global events over the past decade which led to the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq by the U.S. Army are most likely the result of a series of historical events rooted in religious inclinations.

Unfortunately, when studying the reasons behind events, Western political analysts most often fail to consider the historical dimensions and the less obvious factors that give rise to the ominous terrorism that threatens your nation and the world.

Most likely, due to political and economic factors such as the critical need for oil in your country, U.S. political analysts fail to unbiasely analyze the root causes of terrorism.

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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 06:23 AM
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1. This is an excellent post. Regrettably it may get lost in the shuffle.
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 07:20 AM by CanOfWhoopAss
I hope it doesn't because it is very educational. It sheds incredible light on the 2 major sects of Islam. In a corporatist/facist world I'm not so certain the chimperor is not aware of the differences between these two sects. Corporatists need the Wahhabi sect because conflict generates millitary spending. Peace is not in the best interest of Bechtel and Halliburton. Peace brings an end to the Golden Goose. Wahhabis are exactly what they need to keep things stirred up. The chimp is a complete idiot but the company he keeps is very intelligent with generations of knowledge and experience. They know it takes an idiot to relate to those they consider idiots (The general public). War is a profitable business if you are a profiteer.

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Remington_Arms_Company
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 06:49 AM
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2. When peace becomes profitable for those who are in power,
we will have peace. 4Mor
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 07:11 AM
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3. k&r n/t
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 07:22 AM
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4. "it is we who are funding the export of Wahhabi intolerance"
Yet if more of the Muslim world is now open to a newly intolerant and violent strain of Islam, no force has been more responsible than Saudi Arabia. Ever since the 1930s, the Saudis have promoted Wahhabism, the most severe incarnation of Islam. After the oil boom of the early 1970s this became a fundamental tenet of Saudi foreign policy, and a sizeable slice of the country's vast oil revenues has been devoted to promoting Wahhabism at the expense of more tolerant forms of Islam. The Saudis have provoked a clash of civilisations, not so much between east and west as within Islam itself....

...It is not just that Saudi oil wealth has promoted the theological environment that has allowed the ideas of groups such as al-Qaida to flourish. The link is more direct, for it was Saudi money that financed both the most extreme jihadis fighting in Afghanistan and the camps where they were trained: a recent UN report calculated that in the decade leading to 9/11 Saudi Arabia transferred over $500m to al-Qaida via Islamic charities. It is no coincidence that 15 of the 19 September 11 hijackers were Saudis.

Yet the west, dependent on Saudi oil and rich from arms sales, continues to ignore the culpability of the Saudis - to the extent that the Bush administration blacked out 28 pages of a Congressional report that documented Saudi government ties with the 9/11 hijackers. The US continues to allow the Saudis to suppress human rights and lock up political activists, with barely a whisper of criticism. Indeed, Bush and Blair do all they can to shore up this hated and corrupt autocracy....

The ultimate irony is that Saudi money comes from the west as oil revenues and investment: in the end it is we who are funding the export of Wahhabi intolerance. If the Saudi regime is now crumbling, we have only ourselves to blame.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1238065,00.html



Were the "blacked out 28 pages of a Congressional report that documented Saudi government ties with the 9/11 hijackers" ever released?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 07:30 AM
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5. I don't get it.
"(T)he United States and other Western nations are using their vast capacity to produce propaganda to magnify the Shia threat, with the intent of isolating the Shia so that the Wahhabi sect can dominate the Middle East."

Notwithstanding breaking up a coalition of Shia political movements, why would the U.S. choose the Wahhabi sect instead of the Sunni sect to manipulate, influence, and control Iraq? The Sunnis have a history with this country because of Saddam Hussein. By letting this religious minority control the majority within Iraq, the Sunnis would "owe" the U.S., and thus more could be accomplished (if that is the goal of this administriation). Wahhabis would be Taliban redux and not worth the trouble of indefinite destabilization. You couldn't rebuild the intrastructure, get and sell oil, rob the Iraqi people blind without some kind of civilian peace, and you would probably not get that with Wahhabis running the show.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 08:33 AM
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6. As you point out instability is the objective.
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 08:41 AM by CanOfWhoopAss
War profiteers can sell to both sides and let them continue to kill each other long after America got fed up and withdrew its troops (if that ever happens). If they continue to fight the void is partially filled and we have to continue our build up of defenses because the world is "terror filled".

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Military-industrial_complex
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 08:40 AM
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7. I'm with you so far, but how about this:
Doesn't that pit the war profiteers against the corporations that want the oil? I understand that a corporation like Halliburton can be BOTH a war profiteer and oil robber. But how can you possibly do both with political and economic stability? Wouldn't you make much more money (albeit long term) by rebuilding a former wartorn nation and charging more than the actual price of materials and labor (after all, this is the American corporation way . . . )?
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 09:04 AM
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8. You're beyond my expertise
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 09:12 AM by CanOfWhoopAss
or lack of it. As far as the long term I think what you say makes total sense. In the shorter term the oil companies gain because with everyone occuppied by the war, they can take the oil unmetered.

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd07162005.html
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12726

Of course in the long term who says they want to stabilize the entire region? They probably want a conflict throughout the entire region so they can get Iran and the Saudis. The Facist crowd doesn't think for the next paycheck or even for retirement. They think for generations to come. That is why many of the same "elite" families have run our Democracy. Just as in chess you have to think 3 or 4 moves in advance.

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Bohemian_Grove
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/The_Order_of_Skull_%26_Bones
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 09:45 AM
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9. kick
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:52 AM
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10. American leaders have not cared about the root causes of terrorism.
And instead want people to think America can do no wrong.
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