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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:41 AM
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Should we shun or debate torture memo lawyers?
Nick Coleman, Star Tribune
Last update: November 3, 2005 at 7:41 PM

<snip> The lawyers under fire include Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Vice President Dick Cheney's new chief of staff, David Addington, and, closer to home, a professor at the University of St. Thomas School of Law named Robert Delahunty.

Delahunty vehemently denies that he condoned torture. But his name is on an Amnesty International list of government lawyers Amnesty says should be investigated by lawyers' professional responsibility boards for "failing to meet professional responsibility standards." <snip>

The principal author of the memo was John Yoo, a deputy assistant attorney general who now teaches law at the University of California, Berkeley. In a move seen as a brazen provocation by local human rights activists, Yoo has been invited by the law school's Federalist Society to speak here Nov. 16. The faculty mentor for the society is Delahunty. He and Yoo have been making a vigorous effort to rebut the claims they gave legal cover to the use of torture. <snip>

"He violated his professional responsibility by providing really bad legal advice that facilitated torture and led to many grave abuses," Frey says. "I refused to share a stage with him and feel he should be shunned by the legal community." <snip>

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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:03 AM
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1. They deserve nothing but scorn
Tar and feather 'em. Make it clear they are disgusting human rubbish. One does not debate a pile of offal ... one does not debate vermin like these.
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:52 AM
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2. These two people are hardly known by the public. What they
do is so important yet most of us will never hear about their work. John Yoo is disgustingly arrogant, to me.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:05 PM
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5. So make their names known. In discussions of judicial appointments,
for example, never fail to bring up Jay Bybee ...
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Fozzledick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:44 PM
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3. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander
By their own standards, shouldn't they be tortured until they confess? :shrug:
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:59 PM
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4. shun, debate, or torture the memo lawyers...
I vote for torture!
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 02:43 AM
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6. are those the only two options?
how about stress positions? water boarding? i bet they might know something which could save present, and future soldiers' lives.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 05:09 AM
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7. I hate it when a journalist quotes John Yoo without
even mentioning his role in torture.

Regarding whether anyone should debate John Yoo in Minnesota, maybe on neutral ground, but probably not before the right-wing Federalist Society.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 05:25 AM
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8. I vote shun
Edited on Sun Nov-06-05 05:26 AM by depakid
and I also believe that these "lawyers" ought to be disciplined by their respective state bar's.

I wouldn't stand in the same room with people like that, any more than I'd hang out with KKK members or neonazi's.

(of course, I pretty much feel the same way about most every Republican these days- they ALL have blood on their hands- but these guys are especially foul).
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