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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 02:40 PM
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Baker: Black, Hispanic players hold up better in heat
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 02:49 PM
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1. Dusty couldn't fit more feet in his mouth if he tried
"It's easier for most Latin guys and it's easier for most minority people because most of us come from heat. You don't find too many brothers in New Hampshire and Maine and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Right?" he said with a chuckle.

"We were brought over here for the heat, right? Isn't that history? Weren't we brought over because we could take the heat?"

"Your skin color is more conducive to heat than it is to the lighter-skinned people. I don't see brothers running around burnt," Baker said before the Cubs beat St. Louis at Wrigley. "That's a fact. I'm not making this up. I'm not seeing some brothers walking around with some white stuff on their ears and noses."

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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 02:54 PM
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2. Stupidity is colorblind.

I'll bet that there are more than a few red necks that agree with his point of view.

"We were brought over here for the heat, right? Isn't that history? Weren't we brought over because we could take the heat?"

No. Your race was brought over to America because whitey didn't want to get his hands dirty with manual labor, they thought you were no better than animals and treated you accordingly.

How does he explain *'s view of living in Crawford when its 100 dregrees hotter than the surface of the sun ...or for that matter the rest of the white south?

Well, this guy sure isn't paid to perform complex equations.



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NickDanger Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 02:56 PM
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3. I'm trying to figure out how this is different from Jimmy the Greek's
faux pas.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 03:00 PM
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4. I know
That's the first thing that came to my mind when I read it. Don't get me wrong I like Dusty a lot. In fact it doesn't even bug me that he said it. I guess I just think it's really funny that he did.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 04:46 PM
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6. There is likely a certain amount of truth in what both Dusty and Jimmy
the Greek said if the history of mankind is considered from the viewpoint of the geneticist, albeit, the remarks of both were both racially insensitive and politically incorrect. Dusty's fate will probably be better than Jimmy the Greek's though.
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austinboy Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:11 PM
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8. Hear...Hear
You've got my vote. That is what I tried to explain in post 7. It's the truth and they can't handle the truth. :-)
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 04:21 PM
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5. This is offensive
And this is something that gives pseudoscinece presented by the likes of Charles Murray legitimacy.
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austinboy Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:09 PM
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7. Like it or not...
..black folks in this country were "genetically manipulated" by the white folks who enslaved them. They were bred just like animals and anyone saying differently is just jumping on the pc bandwagon. I've noticed alot of white folks don't like to hear the truth, plain and simply. They much rather wrap it up in pretty paper and bows. Jimmy The Greek was also correct albeit in a rather crude way. But the "guilt" or whatever it is that white people feel, in no way changes the reality of the circumstances. This message is brought to you by a brother! :-)
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 03:28 PM
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9. not true
Jimmy the Greek's remarks were condemned by blacks and whites, including a number of black academics who write on sports issues.
First time I heard this debunked, it was in college, with a black sociology professor. People reject it not because they "don't like to hear it", but because there is no evidence for it.

Here is a good article on this topic:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0045/noel.php

It just doesn't follow genetics or history.

I also found this, which is quite good:

http://www.mhhe.com/hper/physed/coakley_sport/student/olc/ch09read.mhtml
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 05:47 PM
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10. Yes, God did make the races different--but only biologically
That guy who said that blacks and Latin can handle the heat better than whites, in terms of sheer biology, speaking the truth, but he could have chosen better words. The races are different biologically but equal in humanity.

The races evolved to adapt to their environments. This is a scientific fact--no matter how the PC crowd censors or misinterpet the truth as "racist." I learned in evolutionary bio classes that whites have light skin to protect from frostbite; thick, wavy hair and beards (in men) to shield from the cold; and relatively narrow noses to warm the air in the cold European (now also northern American and Canadian) winters. Blacks (Africans, Australian Aborigines {a separate black race}, and their descendants in America) have dark skin to protect from the damage of UV rays; dark, curly hair to protect from heat stroke (I think); and broad noses to allow more air in the lungs in the hot summers. I don't know about the evolutionary origins of Asians, so I won't jump to conclusions.


But doesn't mean that one race deserves preferential treatment over another. It's the way people treat members of one race better or worse than another that's racism! This is coming from a socially moderate, third-generation European-American (of Italian and Polish ancestry).

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 02:09 AM
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11. We Asians are short, low to the ground, better to plant rice
LOL
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 11:12 AM
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12. why are Asians generally smaller ?
There must be an evolutionary reason for this. Diet? Population
density? Are Asians who transplanted to the new world larger than
those who stayed behind? Has anyone ever done a study on this?
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