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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:53 PM
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McMartin Preschool accuser recants
One of the 360 children who made accusations says he lied to protect his siblings and was never raped.

Saying he lied to please his parents and protect his younger siblings, one of the children who claimed he was molested at the notorious McMartin Preschool in Manhattan Beach more than 20 years ago has recanted his original story.

Kyle Zirpolo, now 30 and living near Santa Barbara, was among 360 children who told lurid stories of rape, animal mutilations and satanic rituals that would shock the South Bay and reverberate around the world starting in 1983.

More on this pathetic saga
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/1931362.html

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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:56 PM
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1. it was only a matter of time
until all the skeletons of that horrific period are revealed.

I have been looking for this to happen now for the last couple of years since it's been about 20 years now and all these kids are coming of age and might want to clear their consciences.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:58 PM
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2. thnks for posting EOM
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:01 PM
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3. Remember also the false convictions in Wenatchee
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:02 PM
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4. I am sick to death of hearing about this case...
Edited on Mon Oct-31-05 03:04 PM by TwoSparkles
This is one case where children lied.

Yes, it's a tragedy. If these children lied and the entire story was fabricated, then it's horrible.

However, the incessant mentioning of this case in the media makes people doubt serious claims of child sexual abuse.

Many people hear a child, or a group of children, allege sexual abuse and immediately many think of the McMartin case--and doubt is cast on their words and recollections.

90 percent of children who are sexually abused never tell. They're too afraid. They've been told no one will believe them. They feel ashamed because their perpetrator convinced them that the abuse was their fault. We need to create a climate in which children can more easily speak out against the sexual crime committed against them--instead of creating doubt because of this one case that happened decades ago!

Enough all ready.

We need to focus on the 90 percent of children who will never tell, and then grow up to be depressed, afflicted with eating disorders, suicidal and suffer financially and emotionally for the rest of their lives.

For every 1 rare McMartin story---there are tens of thousands of child victims of sexual abuse who remain silent--or who speak out and are telling the truth. It's too bad those children don't get the attention that this one very-bizarre, extremely rare McMartin story gets.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:09 PM
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6. C'mon.
The McMartin preschool case does not take place in the context of what we all know goes on far too frequently in this world.

It took case in the context of Satanic Ritual Abuse scaremongering. Which, as far as anyone has determined, has almost never actually happened. And that is precisely why it should be mentioned over and over again. Because that particular abuse scenario needs to be discredited again and again.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:27 PM
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7. I think the
Mc Martin case did alot to
harm legit cases of child abuse by discrediting kids who DID have an issue with spiriual abuse and child abuse.
I was one of them.
In the hospital because of my PSTD a few years back I wasmistreated by staff by the Satanic ritual abuse hype. And soon when I attended an impatient treatment for disssociative people hoping to learn to control my symptoms,I discovered there was this unspoken agenda that all satanists are bad people going on with the staff there.I was humuilated by staff for being Satanic.. My therapist refused to believe me when I told him my past.And they do ask if you have a recortd of abuse. Reasonable shrinks to day take your experinces and listen and offer ways to control or integrate the emotional fallout from trying to heal,you are in control of your own healing,sane docs just offer techiques to manage symptoms they don't try to skew what you say about your own past. But this doctor did try to skew my past for an agenda..I was furious... I was abused by a christian pedophile,my mom knew he was fundie she said so in my records and I said so too but my hysterical therapist tried to twist my past into something it was not and tell me this pedo was really a satanist.I knew he was not,in fact he was devil phobic. And his wife an accomplice was cat phobic.

Why do I think my ex-therapist did this crap? Because at that time I was a satanist openly,I was using Satanism to heal myself..I was finding comfort in that whole gothic kinda phase popular in the early 90's.And I never saw any satanist eat any babies or hurt any animals and neither did I.But the McMartin case still was burning in the mental health professionals minds and what I was saying to them was threatening MUST NOT BE TRUE..to them.So because of THIER beli4efgs and THIER religion they wanted ME to LIE.I was really pissed off about that. And my mental health suffered because I spent my time arguing my past that was already backed up by my mom and the fact the FBI wanted this pedophile and came to our house looking for information. It is hard to heal from trauma by not trusting my therapist who was supposed to help but insisted I lie.Mc Martin spawned I think alot of suffering in people trying to heal from dissociation.And just because Satanic Ritual Abuse is debunked does not mean child abuse is not real and all memories of abused people are false.

I walked out of his office because he pissed me off and refused to listen to me.Funny years later the catholic church pedophile priest scandal broke and every so often you hear about christian churches with perverts being busted by police and pastors convicted.I wonder if this fool is still shouting at the devil?

The FBI dug up an entire field to find the so called human remains of satanic rituals and came up empty.Yet the christian churches had the gall to keep pointing at the devil.The Churches have rallied behind the scapegoat still have their social good guy badge and still for some die hard believers is so "shocking" when real evidence comes out that abuses of kids in CHRISTIAN churches exists and the evidence is against christians and has nothing to do with workings of the "devil" and his cohorts.

Anton LaVey desipte being a jerkpuffing himself up among right wing leaning losers was right on this point: The Devil has been the churches best buddy and scapegoat for the deception games and abuse of authority and power in the christian churches ranks, that abuse of power and spirit has been there and gone unchallenged for the most part by society since the crusades the witch burnings and before.

History does not exonerate the churches from crimes against humanity,but church loyal people in denial and authoritiers with something to lose if the truth came out try to pull plausible deniability.

Some people are desperate to put these kinds of awful life destroying crimes on some other not so profitable or popular religion to excuse christianity of blame because for the organized churches "leaders" despite what they say to thier congregations it's a profitable racket for them . Giving an organization with power a Carte' Blanche good guy badge is dangerous thing to do especially for kids who's parents are taught to trust a church because of their reputation and "family traditions" instead of looking at the character of the church and protecting thier own kids from corrupt authority .A good guy image does not mean any religion or church is immune from the actions of the bad people in those religions who misuse power. I don't care what the beliefs are about if someone is abusing power they are a danger to the religioun and the churches,temples or whatever.They taint it and smear the spiritual integrity of the entire belief..

I wonder to myself how many people have been hurt by christians and catholic priests and other"good guy badge" religions?How many of those kids because they accused"good guy " religions got told they were liars. Even today the catholic church hierarchy covers up for the pedophiles in their church and will not release the documents they have because the church is scared of coming clean and losing money and losing that good guy badge they do not deserve .. It's so very easy for a 'judeo-christian' based culture to blame it all on the devil rather than look at the sick authoritarian ideas in the church that are reinforced in the bible that lead to sick shit like shepherding and discipling movements that lead to child abuse and spiritual abuse.Introspection into ones own habits and experinces and the habits of authority is feared by bullies,authoritarians and illegitimate power always.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 05:08 PM
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9. I agree that we can't lose sight of the actuals but it's equally important
Edited on Mon Oct-31-05 05:13 PM by Montauk6
that people's lives aren't destroyed by false accusation. In deference to the number of real rapes that occur, should the media also avoid ever again mentioning the Scottboro Rape Case?

Edit: That said though, I DO apologize for this thread as I see that one on this topic has already been started. I totally missed it.
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:04 PM
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5. Ah yes, the era of Satanic Panic revisited n/t
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:34 PM
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8. Those accusers ruined the lives of many people for nothing.
The grief caused by by a bunch of freaked out yuppie soccer moms and their psychologists was world class.
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