With Miers, Bush Gets Fifth Vote Against Roe: Margaret Carlson

[swag]

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&cid=carlson&sid=ajuZsQQbuwl4

Excerpt:

In an interview in yesterday's Dallas Morning News, Miers's former campaign manager, Lorlee Bartos, said Miers told her when running for city council in 1989 that she had been ``pro-choice in her youth.'' Then, according to Bartos, Miers said she underwent ``a born-again, profound experience'' that caused her to change her mind and oppose abortion.

That conversion fits with her $150 contribution to Texans United for Life in 1989 and her successful effort to get the American Bar Association to move from support for abortion rights to neutral in 1991. After the ABA switched back to a pro- abortion-rights position, Miers in 1993 failed in a bid to have the endorsement put to a vote of the full membership.

At his press conference yesterday, Bush claimed that in all the years he's known Miers he never learned her view on abortion. Dobson and Sekulow will have their hands full reassuring the base about that comment. It's one thing for Chuck Schumer to be left in the dark, quite another for Bush to say he purposely kept himself there.

Didn't he promise the base he'd turn the light on and give them a selection sure to reverse Roe?

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[liberalnurse]

1. I can't stop the neo-cons

and our elected Democrats equate to a glass of water half-full. I say fuck-it and let them take away Roe vs. Wade. It will be their wake-up call as well as an awakening for all citizens who once exercised free choice. It will mobilize the masses after the fact. The people may soon see what we have known since 911.

[mitchtv]

3. I agree, If they lose the right of choice

they will have deserved it. I am a man, I'll never need one.Maybe that's what it will take to wake 'murka up.

[tritsofme]

2. More like the 4th...Stevens, Kennedy, Souter, Ginsberg, and Breyer

all vote to uphold Roe.

[swag]

7. Kennedy does not seem so clear.

He has voted to uphold Roe in principle (Planned Parenthood v. Casey), though has also voted to curtail. See his dissent in Stenberg v. Carhart and his calling out of O'Connor's "betrayal" as an example.

I'll email the author of the article and see who she had in mind as the five against Roe.

Thanks.

[tritsofme]

9. Certaintly Kennedy would help chip away at Roe

But his support in Planned Parenthood v Casey was essentially an affirmation of Roe, and I don't see how or why he would vote any differently today.

The only thing Miers brings the fifth vote on in abortion cases are the "late term" abortion laws that were thrown out 5-4 with O'Connor on the side of choice and Kennedy dissenting, as you pointed out.

[swag]

10. Right you are, of course.

I have emailed the author to see what she had in mind. Maybe she's anticipating the departure of Stevens. We'll see.

[tritsofme]

11. There's a scary thought

I just pray the guy can hang on another 3 years.

Its a shame he didn't retire under Clinton.

[Geoff R. Casavant]

14. And restrictions on third-trimester abortions

were pretty much acceptable under Roe's three tier system. In the third trimester under Roe a state may ban abortions outright. Not sure if this view was further refined or expanded in subsequent cases.

[Missy M]

4. It is hard to believe bush's statement that in "all the years he's known..

Miers he never learned her view on abortion". Is that a lie? Why lie? It seems to me the only criteria for choosing a Supreme Court Justice in the bush administration is their stand on abortion.

[ClintonTyree]

6. Is that a lie?

:rofl: That's a rhetorical question, right? When has the truth ever come out of that moron's mouth?

[Missy M]

8. Yes it is, I was trying to do it without using the sarcasm symbol, I guess

it didn't work!

[ClintonTyree]

5. All you need to know about Harriet Miers in one sentence....

"What those conservatives are missing is what Dr. James Dobson, chairman of Focus on the Family, and Jay Sekulow, chief counsel to the American Center for Law & Justice, see in Miers: a fifth vote for overturning Roe v. Wade. Bush even got Dobson's approval beforehand."

And there you have it folks. For all who think that many DUers should just "shut up" because bush could have chosen a much worse ideologue but instead chose the lovely Harriet, here is all the proof you'll ever need that you're wrong.

She's a stealth Theo-fascist in every sense. I'm SOOOOO glad that our Democratic leadership is "happy" with bush's selection. Women will now have to terminate unwanted pregnancies the way god meant it to be; in the back rooms and alleys of run-down industrial buildings.

This woman is everything the Cons wanted, and more. A sucking sycophant of a man who can't put a simple sentence together properly. A Corporate shill who'll sell the environment out at the drop of a hat, a white he/she with no idea of the agonizing decisions a woman has to make concerning unwanted pregnancy. Just what the Cons ordered, and got.

Many of you can't see through the choreographed "outrage" of Conservatives about bush's choice. :eyes: You're not paying attention. You think because they're outraged that she MUST be the right choice. Folks, they plan crap like this every day. They walk in lockstep with their "talking points" memos. This is one of those moments. The Democrats are being played like a fiddle, again. And because of it this country is going to remain on course to turn back every social program enacted since the turn of the 20th century.

But that's alright. We could have had someone "far worse". :eyes:

[keopeli]

12. bingo!

Now, how do we wake everyone up quickly?

[calico1]

13. I totally agree. n/t