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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:17 AM
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Homeland Security Harrasses VEGANS for protesting ham!! NOT A JOKE!
The moral of this story: Join the ACLU!!!

The American Civil Liberties Union today filed a federal lawsuit in Atlanta on behalf of two vegan protesters who were subjected to imprisonment, arrest and harassment by Homeland Security officials, RAW STORY has learned.

The lawsuit stems from a Dec. 2003 incident, when vegans Caitlin Childs and Christopher Freeman were protesting on public property outside a Honey Baked Ham store in Georgia's DeKalb County.

After the protest, the duo noticed they were being watched and photographed by a man in an unmarked car. They approached the car and wrote down the make, model, color and license plate number on a piece of paper. They then noticed the unmarked car was following them.

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Both Childs and Freeman were arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. Police confiscated the piece of paper and Childs' house keys. Both were released from custody, but neither the piece of paper nor the keys were returned. The county has not pursued a criminal case.

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http://rawstory.com/news/2005/ACLU_sues_Homeland_Security_for_arresting_spying_on_vegans_who_protested_0922.html


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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:25 AM
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1. I know I will get flamed for this
But why can't vegans just be vegans and let carnivores be carnivores?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:29 AM
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2. I think you missed the point
the point being that protestors were harrassed when they went and took down the license plate number of a car that was following them. The next time, that car could be following around anti-war protestors.

BTW, I'm a carnivore, though I don't eat ham for religious reasons.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:48 AM
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3. I got the point
And I agree they were harrassed and it's bullshit.

But why do they feel compelled to stand in front of the ham store to protest against meat?

How would it look if I stand in front of the tofu aisle in my local supermarket and harrass all the vegans for not eating meat?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:52 AM
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4. Why don't you look into the issue and get back to us?
The meat supplier could have been destroying rainforests and native villages to plant genetically-modified food to feed to hogs raised in inhumane conditions.
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WearyOne Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:53 AM
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6. agreed..they had the right to protest and this is outrageous and scary
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WearyOne Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:53 AM
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7. dupe
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 05:54 AM by WearyOne
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:55 AM
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8. Why don't you look into the issue?
While I go make myself a ham and cheese sandwich.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:59 AM
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9. "the horror, the horror"
(That's a movie line)
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:26 AM
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10. It was Joseph Conrad's line first. n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 09:07 AM
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13. I read that book
I didn't finish it. I found his writing style to be difficult to follow. That may have been because English was not his native language (Conrad was a Pole), or it may have been a 19th century writing style. What did I miss??
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:39 AM
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11. Andhow wouldyou feel if Homeland Security arrested you for doing so?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:43 PM
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14. I would think it's bullshit
As I mentioned in my earlier post. If we need Homeland Security to clamp down on a couple of vegans for national security purposes, then we really are living in Nazi Germany.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:53 AM
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5. There ya go.That was a good point.I don't like the way people who
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 05:54 AM by ladylibertee
protest have been treated ever since Bush inauguration when they were "hidden" behind fences and placed in pockets where Bush's limo sped past them.I do not forget crap like that.

EDIT: I meant #1 not #2 sorry :P
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:40 AM
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12. kick
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:31 PM
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15. "...but neither the piece of paper nor the keys were returned."
What keys?
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