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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:53 AM
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Thoughtcrime Leads to Propaganda Rally Ejection.
http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3735489,00.html">White House weighs in on ouster

Bush aide: Belief someone plans to disrupt is enough

By Ann Imse, Rocky Mountain News
April 28, 2005

The White House said Wednesday that simply a belief that someone intends to disrupt a presidential event is enough to get the person removed.

Addressing the ouster of three people from a presidential speech last month in Denver, Press secretary Scott McClellan said Wednesday, "If we think people are coming to the event to disrupt it, obviously, they're going to be asked to leave."

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Instead, he said the man was "a member of the Republican staff host committee."

Asked who was on that host committee, Garner declined to say. Rachael Sunbarger, spokeswoman for the Colorado Republican Party, said, "The White House is the host committee."

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 07:14 AM
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1. so in other words dress like a Republican and you can get in?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:27 PM
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13. LINK TO ARTICLE IN THE OPENING POST IS BAD - HERE IS CORRECTED LINK
It's important to read this article in its entirety. This was not a "GOP Rally" on private property, this was an official Bush speech, an event FUNDED BY TAXPAYERS.

Here's the correct link:
http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3735489,00.html
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 08:42 AM
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2. Faith based crowd-vetting.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:37 PM
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6. Yes, you just look them in the eye
As * did to Putin, (aka Pooty), and look into their soul and see if they are good people. * has that power, so it must be available to
others who are blessed by God to be able to "see souls". No great leap
here. I get spotted as a freakin' lib all the time. Must be the khaki slacks and button down shirt that gives me away.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 08:53 AM
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3. Didn't this "member of the Republican staff host committee" present
...himself as a member of the SS and, for doing so, is under investigation.

McClellan scares me, he is such a slimy putz.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:25 PM
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11. Yes, the Secret Service is investigating this. Of the two men that ejected
the "Denver 3," one has been identified as a leader in the Young Republicans, and the other, the one masquerading as a SS complete with an earpiece, has had his identity protected (presumably by the Administration) so far.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:26 AM
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24. He's the Pillsbury Dough Boy!
:rofl:

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 02:44 PM
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4. THIS IS A PUBLIC RELATIONS GIFT!!!! Here are media contacts lists
GET THE WHOLE STORY AND GET THE WORD OUT!!!!

This is certainly a bold new take on the meaning of Freedom of Speech! And they are going to regret saying it if we move into action the way we should on this great opportunity to reveal what they truly are: lawless criminals serving a dictatorship where even the possibility of expressions of disagreement are not allowed.

Orwell's Thought Police have arrived, some time ago. Unfortunately for THEM, they opened their mouths and said something that supports not only an ILLEGAL, UNCONSTITUTIONAL policy, but one that is going to

piss people off in a major way if we spread the word!



Get this to the media outlets. Maybe Olbermann will televise it. Let's get some Op/Eds cooking! "We the People" are not going to like this at all. The BushBot Praetorian Guard could get away with it as long as it was SECRET, but now they have opened their incredibly stupid mouths. The ball's in our court.




Recommended! They have given us a public relations GIFT!!! Let's not be so ungrateful as to fail to use it.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:27 PM
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5. THE LINK IN THE OPENING POST IS BAD - HERE IS THE CORRECTED LINK
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:40 PM
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7. Thanks, Bro. busy today. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 03:46 PM
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8. THIS IS IMPORTANT - I posted a headsup to this thread in GD-P HERE:
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:03 PM
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9. This is a public event and the 1st Amendment has not been repealed
This is outrageous. The first amendment is still in effect and people have the right to protest. The bushies are too arrogant for their own good.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:08 PM
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10. Not only was this event PUBLIC, it was FUNDED BY TAXPAYERS!!!
Edited on Fri Apr-29-05 04:16 PM by Nothing Without Hope
It's all in the article (note that bad link in opening post is fixed in the link in Reply #5). Excerpt:

Unlike campaign events, which are deemed private and therefore could legally limit protesters, Bush's Social Security speech at the Wings over the Rockies Museum was an official White House event funded by the taxpayers.

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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:26 PM
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12. That's not a violation of the First Amendment, is it?

It doesn't threaten pornography at all. The First Amendment, according to pukes, is designed to let people have guns and porn--they really don't care about much else.

Now if somebody was kicked out of a (p)residential event for being a porn star or a male prostitute, that would be different.

:sarcasm:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:30 PM
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14. Yeah, it may not threaten pornography, but it sure is OBSCENE!!! n/t
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Ysolde Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:05 PM
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15. I'll see...
if I can get a response from the local paper. Doubt it, but I can only try!

When is the MSM going to wake up and help us?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:43 PM
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18. We need to HAMMER the major media. Links to lists of contact info
given in reply #4 upthread.

The White House has officially said, in effect, that there IS no Freedom of Speech, even at a taxpayer funded, publc presidential speech. This is the event where three people were evicted by two men, one of them impersonating a secret service agent, because of their BUMPER STICKER. One of those men has been identified as a leader in the Young Republicans. The other, the one wearing an earpiece, has so far had his identity protected - probably by the Administration. From McClelland's remarks, he may well be a White House employee.
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mantis49 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:07 PM
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16. kick
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:37 PM
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17. kick
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BBG Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 08:43 PM
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19. kick
all for turning these traitors out...
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 08:50 PM
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20. See also this outrageous incident: SCHOOLTEACHERS STRIP-SEARCHED
when they dared to attend a GOP event. They are suing. Read about it in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1753195
Thread title: Strip Searched Teachers Sue Over Arrest at Bush Campaign Rally
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:56 PM
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21. Read the article and spread the word- this is clearly UNCONSTITUTIONAL
and we have got to CALL them on it! Hammer the media and your representatives. Lists of media contacts linked to upthread.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:52 AM
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22. Kicked, nominated.
If only this story would grow legs...
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 12:57 AM
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23. AGAIN, HERE ARE LISTS OF LINKS TO MEDIA - let's hammer them
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:42 AM
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25. Same incident - more on the GOP impersonating Secret Service agents
in this other thread on the Denver 3 incident:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1424651
Thread title: Bush's bouncer gets around (thugs who fake Secret Service look)
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