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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:36 AM
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NYT Ed: Shameless Photo-Op (Social Security)
Imagine this: On his next trip to Japan, President Bush visits the vault at the Bank of Japan, where that country's $712 billion in United States government bonds is stored. There, as the cameras roll, he announces that the bonds, backed by the full faith and credit of the United States, are, in fact, worthless i.o.u.'s. He does the same thing when he visits China and so on around the world, until he has personally repudiated the entire $2 trillion of United States debt held by foreigners.

Mr. Bush rehearsed just that act on Tuesday, when he visited the office of the federal Bureau of Public Debt in Parkersburg, W.Va. He posed next to a file cabinet that holds the $1.7 trillion in Treasury securities that make up the Social Security trust fund. He tossed off a comment to the effect that the bonds were not "real assets." Later, in a speech at a nearby university, he said: "There is no trust fund. Just i.o.u.'s that I saw firsthand."

Social Security takes in more money than it needs to pay current beneficiaries, and the excess is invested in the Treasury securities that Mr. Bush was discussing. They carry the same legal and political obligations as all other forms of Treasury debt, every penny of which has always been paid in full and on time.

In his speech, Mr. Bush went on to acknowledge that future generations would have to make good on the debt. But the intended meaning of the photo-op was clear. In the hope of persuading people to privatize Social Security - a move that would only add to the growing debt burden for future generations - Mr. Bush wants Americans to believe that the trust fund is a joke. But if the trust fund is a joke, so is the full faith and credit of the United States.

Fortunately, the governments, institutions and individuals who hold United States debt can tell a publicity stunt from a policy statement. Still, casting aspersions on a basic obligation of the United States government is insulting and irresponsible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/07/opinion/07thu3.html

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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:44 AM
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1. That's a brilliant argument.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 08:48 AM by Skinner
Some Democrat should stand up in congress and ask "Mr. Bush, Shame on you! When are you going to travel to Japan and tell them that their $712 billion investment in US Treasury Bonds is worthless? When are you going to tell the investors on Wall Street that their $___ investment in US Treasury Bonds is worthless? When are you going to tell Mrs. So-and-so in South Dakota, with her entire life savings invested in U.S. Treasury Bonds, that her investment is worthless?"
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:06 AM
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2. I just wish that there was a Democrat
that would stand up and say that. Someone needs to stand-up and say that.

:argh:

And that IS exactly what Bush is saying.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:28 AM
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4. Rep. De Fazio made this statement yesterday
on the floor of the House:

The President questions that? He is questioning whether we are going to repay our most privileged debt to Social Security. We have $7.9 trillion of debt. He is adding to it at a record rate, borrowing $1.3 million a minute. Who is he saying we are going to repay and not repay?

Are we going to repay the Chinese but not the Social Security Trust Fund? Are we going to repay President Bush, he happens to have some U.S. Treasury Bonds in his personal portfolio, but not the Social Security Trust Fund? Are we going to repay other wealthy investors around the world and in the U.S., but not the Social Security Trust Fund? We are going to selectively default on our debt.

That appreared in a DU thread yesterday evening:

Robbien (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-06-05 06:52 PM
Response to Original message: IS THIS THE STUPIDEST THING SHRUB HAS EVER SAID? Wed Apr-06-5 10:32 AM

4. Your statement is great and so was Rep. DeFazio's







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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:27 AM
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3. when will 1 , just one stand up and
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 09:33 AM by dweller
point out the Treason in those *moronic statements??

:banghead:

dp
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