Lifting weapons ban on China could spark Asian arms race

[dArKeR]

When European unification was launched, it was thought that "ever closer union" would establish a community that would protect Europeans from political blackmail. Now we see -- though the lifting of the EU's arms embargo may now be delayed thanks to US pressure and Chinese aggressiveness -- that the EU has become merely a tool for corruption when France and China draw up joint action plans.

The strategy is simple and ruthless. The world's largest dictatorship is preparing to crush and occupy the first Chinese democracy in history -- Taiwan. In order to do so, the People's Republic of China needs much more sophisticated arms than those it possesses today.

The US naturally does not export such arms to China. Instead, the US is trying to deter China's rulers from launching a military attack on the democratic Taiwan. But if the EU ever begins to offer China extensive exports of powerful and offensive weapons systems, the military power of the People's Liberation Army would be able to defeat Taiwan's defense forces. Over 600 missiles, already deployed in southern China, are aimed at cities and military bases on Taiwan.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2005/03/24/2003247587

Stop playing around games. We don't need any of this American crap. The only thing the dirty red communist chinese bastards understand is force! We need offensive nuclear missiles to blow the dirty bastard chinese commies off the face of the Earth!

[dandrhesse]

1. It's interesting to me that everyone talks about missile capabilities in

regards to China's ability to conquer Taiwan. China has people power, a billion of them. If the President of China is not concerned with how many people it "costs" he could just "use" as many people as it takes, 200,000 or 400.000. That's a horrible way to accomplish the goal but it is a possibility, inhumane but possible.

[bemildred]

2. So, like, are they going to swim, or build a pontoon bridge? nt

[dandrhesse]

3. I read on another thread that they have at least some ships, cargo ships

even. If you aren't concerned about people being comfortable and your only goal is to physically overwhelm the other population with "bodies" there are lots of ways to transport people from point A to point B. Like I said it isn't humane but it would be possible.

[bemildred]

4. See, that's were the missile come in, sinking the ships. nt

[dandrhesse]

5. There is so much traffic by ship to China in export trade it would seem

unlikely that they could sink every cargo ship, and if they did then they would think of something else, I don't know and obviously am not a military strategist, my point is that we are assuming that like the US they would want to sustain minimal casualities in achieving their goal and I don't think that is necessarily true.

It seems to me that we would need to take a serious look at the mindset and what the Chinese are willing or not willing to do to achieve their goal. The same could be said in fact for the EU. Right now bush is breathing down everyone's back and threatening military action for non compliance.

It would seem that the rest of the world is not too keen on his attitude. So it is possible that the EU has no intention of selling arms to the Chinese but they will let bush think that if it will keep him in check for the time being. Australia did the same and Russia help joint war games with China as well.

It would seem that the message being sent is loud and clear, bush can't threaten the whole world and not expect them to react in kind.

[bemildred]

6. Well, you are right about that, numbers would be no object.

I'm just pointing out that a billion bodies are not much use
unless you can get them where you want them, and a 90 mile
water gap gives plenty of time to sight things in. I don't know
what the outcome would be, but I'm fairly sure it would not be
neat, clean, short, or simple.

[dandrhesse]

7. That's exactly it. It could be used as an ongoing operation to

deplete Taiwanese resources. There are so many things that China could do that threaten all countries in the world. I think it is generally overlooked because they don't have the weaponry. But what if they decide to go thru North Korea and Russia with Putins blessing and start invading othet nations from that direction. They could keep sending people that way and who would be able to stop them? The whole region is a risk and bush is not helping it one bit.

[bemildred]

8. I can't say I'm too worried about that. nt

[dArKeR]

9. Chinese, Taiwanese don't swim