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th2techdude Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 07:57 PM
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High school students trust Govt. More than the press....
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/public_editor/index.ssf?/base/editorial/111053935253810.xml

This is a disturbing trend. According to this, a few students want the media to have their stories approved by the Government before publishing them in newspapers, etc.... This could be a serious problem indeed.

When students in schools have never tried journalism, they will not be as likely to have faith in the 1st Amendment.

What are your thoughts?
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 08:03 PM
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1. Yes, I heard about that. I'm hoping they are getting privacy and
censorship mixed up. They have never come across or experienced government abuse and they like the idea that someone else takes care of things. Maybe they will out grow this. They are souse to not being listened to and told to be quiet that I don't think they know what free speech is.
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Sympleesmshn Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 08:06 PM
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2. I am a high schooler
I think there are some things we shouldn't hear. But I think we should trust the press to put out only what is appropriate (not harmful to the military, and nothing that would mess up international issues). If we let the government in, we will have true censorship of things about the administration everyone should know... I don't know about you guys, but I read 5 newspapers in my email every day. Only one of them is in the states (the Washington Post), the others are overseas papers. I don't even read the one delivered to the house, except for sports, because it is a mess. No I don't think the press is independent enough, this is why I get my news from overseas, and if we let in the government to censor, I think we would turn into the next Russia.
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CindyDale Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 08:24 PM
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3. Five newspapers? That is impressive
and I see you have strong, well-informed opinions, and that is impressive, too, in someone your age.
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highskoolergurl Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:01 PM
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4. im in high skool
I am a high schooler I believe we should know stuff that applies to us and that is going to affect us.
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th2techdude Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:25 PM
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5. High school and current events go hand in hand...
Agreed. If we are not aware of what's going on around the world, then we will only be led by more Republican propaganda.
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CindyDale Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:17 PM
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6. I agree with both of you, and welcome to DU! n/t
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:21 AM
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12. Hi highskoolergurl!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 11:48 PM
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7. Mission Accomplished.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:11 AM
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8. This kind if thing is precisely why we don't turn to adolescents
For policy guidance.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:48 AM
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9. These are the Imperial Subjects of Amerika, circa 2050
They, like we, will have the government THEY deserve.

And that is one infinitely worse, more bankrupt morally (while proclaiming Perfect Moral Purity) socially, and literally than the emergent Totalitarian Government Amerika has NOW.

It's funny. Now that I am living through a Kinder and Gentler version of 1930s Germany, where I now no longer need to ask how the germans could have allowed Hitler to lie to them so blatantly while claming the mantle of a Noble and Godly Man BECAUSE I HAVE LIVED IT, I actually feel more sympathy towards those 1930s Germans.

We were too hard on them. Now I understand what they had to contend with, and what they had to contend with was even worse, because nobody (yet) is beating us or firing us based on politics (well, not in the wholesale fashion of Nazi Germay).

And yet, at tthe same time i feel MORE contempt for the Imperial Subjects of Amerika. The germans had never tasted real fredom in the entire history of their nation/region.

We had EVERYTHING and pissed it away because we were too lazy.

Funny, isn;t it.

So I have to admit I feel little sympathy for these unAmerican HS Students. They are unAmerican, but very Amerikan. They will make WONDERFUL Virtual Slaves for the Caligulan and Neran generation of the Amerikan Caesers.
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 09:15 AM
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10. Truth be known....
Most in high school don't have a clue or care. I am glad to see that some are concerned and take an active role in being informed like our two high school aged posters. But sadly they are the exception and not the rule.

Truth be known when i was in high school i probably felt the same. I have grown much since then and now some 20yrs later feel much more informed.
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th2techdude Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 09:33 AM
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11. Here's another problem....
High Schoolers also want to have fun, but there's that "generation gap" issue as well. You know, the one in which the older and newer generation don't listen to one another. That may be what's contributing to disturbing incidents like this one.

Maybe if the adults weren't always so hard on the kids.....
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suneel112 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:16 PM
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13. HS student who took the survey
And I don't trust gov't One bit. When one looked at my responses, they probably thought I was a radical. One reason for this is Bush's school funding. He wants to replace History, Government, and Geography with Propoganda, Propoganda, and Empire. And for that we can blame the parents who vote for this to happen.
What is No Child Left Behind but to bus the poor kids with crumbling schools to a BushJugend Goebbels Propoganda Camp, and turn them into machines?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:20 PM
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14. Most high schoolers are too wrapped up in their social lives to care
Just keep watching MTV, listening to the radio, and have your sports. The only time they care significantly is if there is a fucking draft. That should get them to the polls real quick.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:36 PM
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15. Both of my kids
12 and 14 (13 and 15 in a few months) see through the bullshit. Kids are even smarter than we were (are?). They see the hypocrisy of their 'role models' and think that they will not have a very nice life (to say nothing about their kids). My kids respective schools had mock 2004 presidential elections. Kerry won by complete landslides in both schools. But look what results we had.

Kids are really smart. But do you blame them for tuning out when the adults seem to be hell bent on destroying their futures before they even get a say in that matter?
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th2techdude Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:41 PM
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17. Valid points from MadisonProgressive....
There were times when my own mom wouldn't listen to me concerning certain issues, because she's lived longer than I have and she's set in her ways. I was once a part of a younger generation myself. I am now 22 years old, and I can understand why kids don't like adults.

There are too many adults today that treat kids and teens like garbage and low lives. That's not right.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:47 PM
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16. when they should trust neither, and be willing to work with both
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 06:03 PM
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18. unless they keep doing the survey and tell us if the
number goes up or down, that doesn't mean much.
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