Social Security plan hanging by a thread

[Blaq Dem]

Posted on Fri, Feb. 18, 2005


DAVID BRODER: SYNDICATED COLUMNIST


Social Security plan hanging by a thread


At this early stage of the game, Social Security reform, President Bush's No. 1 domestic goal, is hanging by a thread. House Republican leaders are reluctant to force members to vote on it unless there is a clear prospect of Senate approval. And the votes to break a filibuster in the Senate are just not there.

Bush has barely begun his campaign to drum up support for allowing younger workers to divert some of their Social Security taxes into private accounts, but already he finds himself paddling upstream. Democratic opposition is nearly unanimous -- and energized -- while House Republicans are nervous about facing White House pressure for such a vote.

/snip/

House Democrats were uncertain the Senate would act, and vice versa, so in the end, neither chamber ever held a floor vote on the measure. That is what George Bush could face this time around.


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Source:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/opinion/10932623.htm?1c

[whistle]

1. What is the discount rate used to calculate future costs of SS

[Megahurtz]

2. Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.schumer.senate.gov/calc/#

[coreystone]

6. Interesting calculations, should I go to the Schumer site....

to find out the particulars (variables) of what age of retirement, etc.????

:-)

[damntexdem]

10. Note that it only works for birth years 1950 and after.

They should have started with 1946 -- the start of the Baby Boom.

[coreystone]

12. I sent an E-Mail to Schumer. Hopefully, his staff will modify the..

paramenters, and, give further explanation of the "retirement age", etc.

The (pre-Bush) calculations for me, were much higher than the yearly report that I receive from my employer (USPS)

:-)

[Megahurtz]

18. I used to work

for the USPS.

[Megahurtz]

16. Probably because

supposedly this new bogus SS program won't affect the people who are now age 55 and over? (I think, but who knows with Bushitler in charge)

[whistle]

15. That link hung up my computer, are you sure it is by Schumer?

[Megahurtz]

17. It was actually posted by a DUer on

the General Discussion Board (I think) just a few days ago and I bookmarked the link. I'll try to see if I can find the post.

[Megahurtz]

3. The cartoon should have said,

Go Dumbass Go!!!

[Zeke]

4. Read. Read.

Paul Krugman's NYT atrticle about Greenspan & Soc. Sec.

Krugman's pised at Greenspan, holds back no punches.

[yellowcanine]

5. Shit - I was hoping we would at least get a bunch of pubbies on record

supporting reduced benefits. - could be real useful in the 2006 campaign.

[spanone]

7. Cut the thread.

[jswordy]

8. Yeah, it never helps a cause when only 28 percent of the people...

...believe in it at all.

LOL. The thing is DOA, which is why * is backpedaling furiously to find firmer ground on it somewhere.

But everywhere he steps there's more softness.

He'd have been better off coming right out and saying he wanted to raise the ceiling, and then trying to do that. When it got out that his private accounts would drive up the debt and not really fix the problems...well, that was that.

Oh well. Too bad the Dems didn't latch right onto that, they could have had an effective issue to bring up in '06. Oh well.

But if enough of this kind of stuff comes down the pike, it will start to dawn on folks that this admin is not in their corner.

[damntexdem]

11. Given that Soc Sec was to be Dubya's premier issue this year, ...

he's already hurting.

[damntexdem]

9. Oh, it shouldn't hang by a thread. It deserves ...

a stout rope with a competent noose.

[Sugarbleus]

13. Thanks Blaq...good post. ...

Also try posting in the Social Security Forum over in DU GROUPS...

Mermaid is trying to keep the interest going in terms of fighting this SS "fix"<---ahem...

We need to fight these mofos at every turn.

[VegasWolf]

14. Huh?! What about all that political capital awol was talking about?n/t

[Infomaniac]

19. So much for Repug Unity

The house repugs don't have the stones touch the third rail of electoral politics. I doubt even Delay could get the votes needed for this dog. I sure hope he tries though.

[LinuxInsurgent]

20. i'm happy Democrats are standing up

FDR's legacy is where they draw the line.

Let Bush bash his head continually trying to sell this program...it's just not fly...

[TahitiNut]

21. "Plan"? "Plan"??? There's no "plan"; just an appetite and a pack of lies.

This is just another P.O.S. "opinion" piece by Herr Broder - another squishy apologist for the regime. Look at the propagandistic language: "early stage," "reform." "reluctant," "private accounts," "Democrats were uncertain," etc. All designed to portray legitimacy.

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[geniph]

22. Gee, I thought Bu$h had a mandate!

all along, I didn't realize he meant a Man-Date!