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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:39 PM
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Disorder at the Top
DISORDER AT THE TOP

Dorothy A. Seese
February 5, 2005
NewsWithViews.com

The reports are seemingly endless, a long laundry list of defects in our obese government structure of subversives, panderers, crooks, delusional leaders and biased media cohorts, inadequate training in the military and incomprehensible lack of coordination and supply for a war that should never have been, and stupid trips by even more stupid elected officials to places they should not be allowed, all at taxpayer expense.
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And to think the American Revolution was ignited over a tea tax!

Of course, Boston Harbor couldn't hold the carcasses of the huge number of lunatic elected and appointed officials in American government, they outnumber the tea by about 2,000 official persons to 1 case of tea. (Don't hold me to an exact figure, we haven't had an official investigation at this point.) But it's obvious that America has a bad case of Rottenhead Infestation, and RI seems to grow every time the government reorganizes anything or holds a new election. This government has pandered to its enemies and kicked its allies, bought its lovers and given its defense information to those who have every intention of using it against the American people for a long, long time.

Too long is too long to keep quiet about it, and the people who whine are silenced by being single voices in the midst of a burgeoning and noisy, media-controlling MIC that never gives any response for the cries to get the US out of stupid wars or out of the United Nations simply because the government officials have something to gain or something to lose if they suddenly turn honest. In the meantime, the people are so weak they keep voting "the lesser of two evils" which is voting for evil, rather than uniting in a strong protest that would bring about a general housecleaning of the structure we now have in America.

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War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy and we have failed because we are always at war. We use our military in the wrong places at the wrong times and for the wrong reasons. The nation is geared up to declare immediate martial law against its own people while proclaiming it is liberating the slaves in other nations. That is the ultimate in hypocrisy and disorder at the top.

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http://www.newswithviews.com/Seese/dorothy3.htm
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:46 PM
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1. That just about sums it up doesn't it
:kick:
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:53 PM
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2. Pretty much.
She said a mouthful.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:37 PM
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3. Actually...
As I understand it, the American Revolution was ignited over a corporate take-over, so to speak. The British East India Company was seeking a monopoly in North America over the tea trade. Definitely a bad case of RI disease. The colonists revolted against corporate & government connivance. Sound familiar?
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:30 AM
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5. you're absolutely right.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/teaparty.shtml


"Conventional wisdom has it that the 1773 Tea Act - a tax law passed in London that led to the Boston Tea Party - was simply an increase in the taxes on tea paid by American colonists. In reality, however, the Tea Act gave the world’s largest transnational corporation - The East India Company - full and unlimited access to the American tea trade, and exempted the Company from having to pay taxes to Britain on tea exported to the American colonies. It even gave the Company a tax refund on millions of pounds of tea they were unable to sell and holding in inventory.

The primary purpose of the Tea Act was to increase the profitability of the East India Company to its stockholders (which included the King and the wealthy elite that kept him secure in power), and to help the Company drive its colonial small-business competitors out of business. Because the Company no longer had to pay high taxes to England and held a monopoly on the tea it sold in the American colonies, it was able to lower its tea prices to undercut the prices of the local importers and the mom-and-pop tea merchants and tea houses in every town in America.

This infuriated the independence-minded American colonists, who were wholly unappreciative of their colonies being used as a profit center for the world’s largest multinational corporation, The East India Company. They resented their small businesses still having to pay the higher, pre-Tea Act taxes without having any say or vote in the matter. (Thus, the cry of “no taxation without representation!”) Even in the official British version of the history, the 1773 Tea Act was a “legislative maneuver by the British ministry of Lord North to make English tea marketable in America” with a goal of helping the East India Company quickly “sell 17 million pounds of tea stored in England…”

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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:28 AM
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8. Thanks, to you and Me, for the history lesson. That is illuminating.
Sounds like the more things change, the more they stay the same. When men of conscience are outnumbered by men of greed and opportunity, there is not much chance of true liberty lasting very long. Makes me wonder how long the Bush apologists will ride their lame horse. And whether, or not, it's too late already.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:42 PM
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14. How is it that the colonists of 1773 could figure this out
despite the fact that they were an ocean away from London, despite the fact that they had little access to news, despite the fact that many of them were indentured servants and most of them were illiterate?

How come they knew what was happening to them, and got mad enough to fight back, while the mindless sheep of today herd each other toward the slaughter?

I wanna know that. I really wanna know.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:01 PM
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15. I think because we have such a vast middle class
that the poor and working class are outnumbered. The middle apparently isn't feeling the pinch yet. Or if they are, they aren't complaining, YET.

I just heard today that we can expect gas to rise to $2.50 a gallon by spring.

Now, as I heard the cheery giddy newslady say this on MSNBC this morning, I was horrified, not only at what that measn for me as someone who drives over 1200 miles a month for work, but that this newslady said it as though she was reporting that the price of the vanilla bean was going up to $30 a pound. "Ouch!" she said with a smile and a giggle. WTF?? I can live without the vanilla bean, I can't live without the gas, and soon, I will have to raise my prices or face a reduction in profit margin. I mean, this is BAD news for me. Apparently others can afford this?
I think that the day is coming when folks are going to suddenly realize that things are out of control.
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Ranec Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:01 PM
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16. My guess is....
it was a small group of influential intellectuals and businessmen--our "founding fathers."

Not very democratic but helpful for radical change.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:01 PM
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20. Because they communicated honestly and forthrightly,
even when they disagreed.

In other words, integrity...etc.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 07:08 PM
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21. I think only about a third of them supported revolution.
Many supported England and others were neutral, so to speak. We were lucky to have the leaders and liberal thinkers who won the war and wrote and gained support for the Constitution. It was quite the innovation at the time, and quite risky business. Liberal business, I might add. :D
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:03 PM
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22. Ben Franklin had to be dragged kicking and screaming,
but it's hard to fault a man for loyalty.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:40 AM
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4. here's another one by Dorothy Seese you may want to see . . .
DARK FORCES AND THE TOLERANT FOLLOWERS

Dorothy A. Seese
January 15, 2005
NewsWithViews.com

http://www.newswithviews.com/Seese/dorothy.htm

The real America has been quietly replaced by a land of dark, occultic powers controlling masses of clueless people who are stumbling blindly behind a faulty leadership (major party) into a predictable morass of serfdom and slavery quite equal or greater than the days of the Babylonian empire or that of ancient Rome. Just how did this come about when most Americans are ready to sock anyone who says they're not free? Because the power structure that's in place, the pressures for conformity, the selective discrimination based on religion (the Christian faith) and the enticements to more depraved forms of "pleasure" have acted as a slow poison to the minds of people who were once able to think more clearly. They had absolutes and standards, and have been told for decades now that there are no absolutes, that "right and wrong" are states of mind.

The unraveling of America is clear enough to the world, it simply isn't clear at all to most Americans. To those who see what should be obvious to all, there is a stigma attached -- "Conspiracy Theorist." It isn't much different than people thinking that only lunatics believed man would ever fly in planes, or space ships, or have electric lights. Herd thinking is the very substance on which tyrants rely, because they know their propaganda machines will be accepted by the herds.

In the case of illicit pleasures, the attacks on the home and acceptance of infidelity or promiscuity have created a generation of confused children who will believe anyone who seems to "know" what is going on and give the children a foundation to which they can cling, even if it is occult. Those who hate the Ten Commandments and give way to a gentler, Mother Earth religion find consolation in Babylonian religion where Christianity demands accountability and repentance for sin. Sin? Erase that word from the dictionary, it was used by earlier and "unenlightened" Americans who believed in some Absolute Creator.

In this environment, Americans trudge to work and back daily, if they still have a job, and the retired Americans find themselves (as has been the case for at least fifty years) of being told that there won't be any money for Social Security. Keep distractions flowing, immediate causes of worry, and no one will notice what else is going on. That is precisely what is happening. Dark forces are closing in on the peoples of the once-Christian world, which in many cases failed to even resemble the Christianity of the Bible, and even the supposed Christian Church is going along with all the tolerance.

- more . . .

http://www.newswithviews.com/Seese/dorothy.htm
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:06 AM
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6. Soon the Inc.s are going to know the meaning of the word WOOD SHED!
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:16 AM
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7. "We filled his head with cannonballs, and powdered his behind...
And, when we set the powder off, the gator lost his mind."
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:28 PM
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9. I'd personally leave out any mention of "explosives" if I were you.
I'd personally leave out any mention of "explosives" if I were you. Even if it is in a song - the simple mention of it on the internet will waste the valuable time and bandwidth of some civil servant.

Just a reminder - as you were!
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:05 PM
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10. That did occur to me...but it is a patriotic song.
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 01:22 PM by indigobusiness
If they can bomb Iraqi homes, I can safely make a lyric reference...in a free Country...Can't I?

If not, why pretend Liberty? I'm a pacifist, for crying out loud, I abhor violence and see self-defense (or heroism) as the only justification of violence.

Do I really need to watch my step? In America?

edit--- Wait...don't answer that.

To whom it may concern: It was just a bad joke.

Peace and love are the way...dude.

:hippie:
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codswallop Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 03:28 PM
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11. Candles in the rain...
Got to get back to the garden.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:36 PM
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13. Peace & Love Indeed
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:04 PM
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12. kick!
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:20 PM
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17. Tea = caffeine
However legal, socially accepted and seemingly harmless, caffeine is a drug. Interesting to note that the American Revolution began with a turf war between imperialist drug dealers and their colonial competitors.

Very interesting indeed.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:35 PM
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18. Freedom and Ignorance cannot mutually co-exist for too long
Thanx again to Mr.Indigo for wake up call..


"One thing to be remembered is this: the government of a federal republic cannot be derelict in its duty unless the people as a whole, the voting public, is derelict in theirs!


its the duty of every citizen to resist tyranny in govt { not exact quote}
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:05 PM
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19. Your points are excellent.
And you are most welcome.
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