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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:01 PM
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NYT ED: When Math Is Worse Than Fuzzy (Bush zero credibilty on SS)
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/opinion/10thu1.html?th

When Math Is Worse Than Fuzzy"

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/opinion/10thu1.html?t...


Whenever the Bush administration wants to sell a costly new program, look carefully before you accept any numbers it puts out. The math isn't just fuzzy, as the current euphemism would have it - it is often downright misleading, and deliberately so.

The latest example is the newly acknowledged cost of the Medicare prescription drug bill, which the administration bulled through Congress in late 2003 over the objections of conservatives who railed that the price tag would be too high. The number that had deficit hawks choking then was a projection that the drug benefit would cost $400 billion over 10 years, from 2004 through 2013. The administration already had an internal estimate that the cost would exceed $500 billion for that period. But it made sure to suppress that figure as it strong-armed Republicans who had already approved irresponsible tax cuts and an expensive war in Iraq, whose true costs were also being hidden.

Now it turns out that the earlier discrepancy was small beer compared with the latest upsurge in the projected 10-year cost of the drug benefit. As pointed out in an article yesterday by Robert Pear in The Times, the drug benefit is actually expected to cost some $720 billion over the first 10 years, from 2006, when the benefit kicks in, through 2015. The previous numbers were lower because they included in the 10-year projections two years when the program would not yet be up and running.

The higher numbers are bound to infuriate conservative Republicans who feel that they were bullied into supporting an expansion of Medicare despite their deep misgivings. But even those of us who supported the Medicare drug benefit as a needed modernization of the program have a right to feel duped. Congress went out of its way to deny Medicare officials the right to negotiate for lower drug prices from manufacturers. That was a mistake when the costs were projected at $400 billion. It is doubly disastrous at $720 billion.

The administration is trying a similar dodge in its efforts to sell the idea of converting part of Social Security to private accounts. Those accounts are a bad idea on the merits, but even many who might be inclined to support them are fearful of the enormous transition costs, which could exceed a trillion dollars over the first 10 years of the program. So the administration has conjured up a more palatable number. By delaying the new accounts until 2009, it is able to project that costs over the 10-year period from 2006 until 2015 will be $754 billion. That presents less of a target than a trillion-dollar bull's-eye, but all it does is delay the real accounting.

Any resemblance to pronouncements on Iraq is probably not coincidental. The administration repeatedly low-balled estimates of the number of troops who would be needed to pacify the country, and it contended that Iraq would be able to pay for postwar rebuilding with oil revenues, implying that the costs to American taxpayers would be minimal. Now that the bills are escalating and our troops are straining to contain the insurgency, those glib assurances look like just another misleading sales pitch. <snip>

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gnofg Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:20 PM
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1. delayed truth
my friend has a great saying about salesman. It is called"delayed truth". In other words they'll find out. I used to be in software sales and the ngreat saying is the update will be relaesed "soon". It is always a year late.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:25 PM
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2. cbs this morning. It gets worse.
"The $724 billion figure is in documents obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press and related to the president's Monday budget request to Congress. Without anticipated savings included in the calculation, the cost of the program over the next decade could swell to (take note here)

$1.19 trillion,

according to the documents."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/09/politics/main672607.shtml
(16th paragraph)
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:29 PM
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3. Why do supporters of George Bush believe lying is acceptable behavior?
This administration has told lie after lie to the American people and many know this and don't blink an eye. Are they brainwashed, brain dead...what? Maybe they think there is a secret plan and EVERYTHING IS UNDER CONTROL. :eyes:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:37 PM
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4. What the hell is the NY Times talking about re: 1950's mentality?
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 05:37 PM by depakid
Or we can have a small government with a tax code that has a 1950's mentality in protecting the wealth of the richest Americans at the expense of the middle class and the working poor.

????

Excuse me, but in the 1950's, multiple programs were put into place to protect the middle class- with more proposals in their formative stages, unions were at their zenith, government was heavily investing in infrastructure (e.g. hospitals & interstate highways), the top marginal rate was 90% and corporations paid a substantially higher proportion of the overall tax burden.

This must have been a typo (or... a Freudian slip?). Hard to know these days.

Had the Times said 1920's- now that might have made sense....
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