AP: Falwell Announces New Coalition to Build on Evangelical Momentum

[Poll_Blind]

Full article.

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - Seeking to take advantage of the momentum from an election where moral values proved important to voters, the Rev. Jerry Falwell announced Tuesday he has formed a new coalition to guide an "evangelical revolution."

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"We all, for the first time, began to realize the potential of reLigious conservatives, particularly evangelicals, when something over 30 million of them went to the polls," he said, noting most supported the president and pro-life candidates and helped vote down 11 same-sex marriage initiatives around the country.

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Full article.

PB

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. What does pride goeth before?

Your reward awaits you, Jerry. It may well not be the one you expect.

[Straight Shooter]

2. Rove is telling Falwell to F off

Other threads on DU explaining this, moral values are about 23 percent reason for voting bush. Rove citing other factors, such as the War, terrorism.

These lip service evangelicals are getting dissed without a kiss.

[Erika]

8. Bush Is Not Dissing Falwell, Don't let them kid you

Blocking Oregon's assisted suicide is a ultra conservative position as is Bush's request for increased funding for religious charities. Bush will try to appoint anti choice judges.

[VegasWolf]

3. Would this be the coalition of the ignorant?

[Neshanic]

4. Note to moderate R's....Guess who's coming to dinner.

That's right, you had him sit for a while in your living room, now he's staying for dinner....with Extreme Jesus.

[Raster]

5. falwell's "new coalition" == new cayman islands account

[VegasWolf]

14. That's it, I had forgotten the Caymans, it the perfect place to

house converted euros, citizenship is dirt cheap, i think 5k a year,
and you only have to spend a week a year on the island.

[TaleWgnDg]

19. indeed. Falwell, Robertson, et al are sucking off the poor "big time"

[Raster]

31. hate sells my friends. Hate coupled with fanatacism is a recipe for gold.

[Massacure]

6. Good let him. Then we get to divide and conquer in 2006.

[Teaser]

7. That's it Jerry. Overreach.

It's what you were born to do.

Overreach, sweetums.

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. New CEO reporting for duty!

John Ashcroft. *sigh*

[riverwalker]

10. let Jerry and his purple Tele Tubby phobia

be the new poster boy of the RNC. Give him lots of air time on Faux ranting about the sinister insideousness of Tinky Winky and his purse.
Rub it the face of every moderate repug until they scream in agony.

[TXDemGal]

24. Hee! I STILL have my little purple Tinky Winky

keychain doll, which I bought during the brou-ha-ha. I wanted to be in solidarity with persecuted cartoon characters (gay or not) everywhere. :+

[saigon68]

42. THIS GUY WITH A PURSE

[Lady Sonelle]

54. You too?! Tink Does My Laundry!

I have the Tinky Winky coin purse on My laundry cart! He gets his little but stuffed with quarters for the washing.

Lady S.

[TXDemGal]

57. Hi Lady Sonelle

and welcome to DU! Yes, I still have him. He hangs out a drawer pull for my filing cabinet at home. My little (at the time) niece asked if she could have him, but I wouldn't part with it. How's that for a hard-ass aunt?!

[newyawker99]

70. Hi LadySonelle!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Rosemary2205]

64. We need more Falwell

How much do I want to bet the so called "liberal" media won't give Falwell the time of day.....tragic.

[Erika]

11. It Must Suck to Be a Bushie Republican ....

and know now what Bush is trying to do to this country.

[Pale_Rider]

12. A poster Falwellians would love ...

[saigon68]

16. Not Having Fun for Halliburton # 2

Not Having Fun for Halliburton # 2

[grasswire]

13. look at this

The last sentence in the story:

Theologian Tim LaHaye will be the board chairman.

[Poll_Blind]

17. OMG, please check out his site...talk about stuff that makes my...

...atheist's "fairy-tale meter" peg at 11. There's a little flash animation with his voiceover. I don't slight people who believe in G*d, but the animation and his little description of the End Times is pathetic and, frankly, silly.

Click HERE if you dare!

PB

[Pale_Rider]

25. Minions of the new anti-Christ ...

[Divine Discontent]

27. I don't dare, they scare me!

and every other Christ loving Christian out there, these people are wack jobs who are the opposite of Christ, oh wait, that's called Anti Christs, well, by their fruits they will be known!!!!!!!!!


"if a gay man ever looks at ME like THAT, well I'll kill him and tell God he died!!!!!!!!!!!!" (huge laughter and applause) J. Falwell

[54anickel]

30. That wasn't Falwell, was it? Thought it was Swaggert. n/t

[Divine Discontent]

35. correctamundo, good catch on my mixed message!

they're all the same person, theoretically. (wink)

[laheina]

43. Cookie Cutter Televangelists

While I agree that they aren't very original, or intelligent, or....<huge snip>, the ones that you need to look out for are those of them who can put on a public front. Dobson comes to mind. He's the one that successfully married the religious right to the GOP. For info, check out Rob Boston's books or the Americans United site.

[newyawker99]

71. Hi laheina!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[kainah]

20. Tim LaHaye....

Just what we need!

Actually, my sister had a pretty good idea. We should send emails to the cable networks asking them to have MORE segments with Falwell, Robertson, James Dobson, Gary Bauer, LaHaye, etc., etc. The more we can show the American people the kind of people that believe they've now "won" America, the faster the American people will react negatively.

It's just a matter of time before these people overreach. It's inevitable ... and the levels of their post-election arrogance are already quite high. So perhaps we should just urge them on.

[Still_Notafraid]

38. Brilliant!!!

A little Sun Tzu goes a long way.

[mcg]

39. Tim LaHaye funded by cult leader Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

http://nomoonies.tripod.com/a_moon_primer.pdf

'Tim LaHaye, author of the “Left Behind” series of books touting an end of the world point of view, was funded by Moon. In 1983, Lahaye organized hundreds of ministers to protest Moon’s imprisonment for tax evasion. Despite the overwhelming evidence and Moon’s history, LaHaye whipped up the preachers telling them that the government would come after them next. LaHaye was one of the founders of the Moon funded super secretive Council for National Policy (CNP), which has a theocratic agenda. George W. Bush spoke to this group in 1999 and received its endorsement for President. The Bush administration refuses to let the CNP release the transcripts of his speech or tell what he promised the group.'

Pappa Bush and Jerry Falwell also have ties to Moon.

[TXDemGal]

58. I feel The Rapture coming on! nfm

[dkofos]

61. What those people(?) need is a Jim Jones koolaid party.

[Mountainman]

15. Now that the lights are off all the cockroaches come crawling out of the

woodwork.

[AlCzervik]

18. well Christ on a cracker! How many

coalitions do these assholes need?

[54anickel]

34. Um, I believe the magic number is 7. Or perhaps 52 times 7 ;^)

[LibertyLover]

62. How many coalitions?

How about 666?

[olddad56]

21. Can I get an Amen. Lets re-write the bible to feature Dubya.

[54anickel]

29. He's already in there. Revelation - the beast out of the sea. But I

don't think Shrub will last the 42 months quoted in the Bible. :evilgrin:

[BiggJawn]

22. There's gonna be fighting in the streets, just wait and see.

30 million? That's gonna take a lot of shotgun shells...

Or should it be wooden stakes and silver bullets?

[54anickel]

23. The Talibornagains are coming!!! The Talibornagains are coming!!!

Seriously though, Falwell and Robertson and the like may be nuts, but they are also determined and well funded and connected.

This shit scares the hell out of me - though not enough to join their cult.

Check this site out if you haven't yet.
http://www.yuricareport.com/index.html

[Maat]

28. I agree with the 'give 'em enough rope to hang themselves' idea

Let's allow them a whole bunch of exposure. People like my relatives in Oklahoma will eat it up - but anyone with common sense who has not been absorbed by the Borg - will realize that they made a very big mistake voting for *.

[theHandpuppet]

26. My oh my, I see the Anti-Christ's little helpers...

... are already busy preparing for the holidays. Let fly open the flues of hell and throw another log onto the fire, Mabel! Thar be false prophets sliding down the chimney!

To the tune of "Jingle Bells"

Fal-Well's
Goin' to hell
And the Chimpster, too;
Wolfowitz and Condi Rice
The devil wants his due...

Karl Rove,
by jove!
Your name tops his list,
Then Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell
and a Mr. Anal Cyst.

(Chorus)
Here comes Beezlebub
Stoking up the fires,
All to greet the neocons,
The fundies and the liars!

It's going to be a roast
And Ashcroft's ass is toast,
But never fear Diebold is here
In case the voting's close!

Ohhhhhh...

Fal-well's goin' to hell
And Dick Cheney, too;
Andy Card is looking charred
O'Reilly just looks blue

Sonofagun
It's Robertson,
With Tom Delay to boot!
Frist is skinning cats again
This hell sure is a hoot!

(Chorus)
Here comes Beezlebub
Stoking up the fires,
All to greet the neocons,
The fundies and the liars!

It's going to be a roast
And Ashcroft's ass is toast,
But never fear Diebold is here
In case the voting's close!

Ohhhhh.....

Fal-Well's
Goin' to hell
And the Chimpster, too;
Wolfowitz and Condi Rice
The devil wants his due!

[54anickel]

32. ROFLMAO!!! That's great! Publish it! Record it! Animate it! n/t

[JudyM]

33. To be funded with our tax dollars as a "faith-based initiative"

What are we coming to? There are no longer any checks and balances in our country. Talk about insurgents!!!

[saracat]

36. F-ck him. I hope his head explodes and he is raptured off his feet!

[Nicholas_J]

37. At it again

The Aytollah Falwell and the Christian Taliban.
History repeats itself, first as tragedy and then as farce.

In the entire history of the human race, there has never been a government that based itself on a religious majority that has not fallen into terrorizing its own people.

The only society based on theocracy that has had any lengthy stretch of enlightenment was the Golden Age of Islam and by and large this occured because of the fact that the Arabs who swept out of the Arabian Pensinsula were more transformed by the cultures they absorbed, than anything inherent in the religion. Once the expansion of Islam finished, the state became repressive and lost all of its tolerance.

Even the Buddhist Kingdom of Asoka was fille with sectre police watching the citizens.

Once Christians took over the Roman Empire, the religious tolerance of the empire vanished and waves of persecution depending on which sect of Christianity was the choice of the emperor at hand. Athanasian Christianity ended up on top, deferatoing the much more tolerant Arian Sect (which was the sect of the Germanic Tribes. who tolerated Pagan worship and viewed other religions as having a less perfect version of the truth, but containing some portion of the truth as well).Athanasian Christianity became the basis of all western Christianity intolerant of pagans in the empire, searching out pagans and putting them to the sword. The Beginnings of the Gothic Empire of Theodoric attempted to overturn the intolerant Athnasians of the Roman Church. but the bishops of the Catholic Church plotted and attempted to stir Catholics into revolt against Theodoric, and once he died, the Athanasians gained the upper hand. During the early Church period, Christians did everything possible to
destroy paganism, and it was thev CAtholics of Northern Africa who destroyed the Great Library of Alexandria. The Church in later yers had to blame it on Julius Caesar during the Italian Renaissance. Thre Library was destroyed during the 400's A.D a a result of dificulties between the pagan prefect of Alexandria,Orestes, and a recently electedBishop of Alexandria, Cyril. Orestes was not likey by a number of Christians, who felt that the fact that they were a numerical majority in Alexandria should allow them mopre political power and thev righ5t to repress Pagan worship and remove all pagans from political office. The daughter of Suda, the last nead of the Museum and Library of Alexandria, Hypatia, who was blamed for the friction between Cyril and Orestes. The fact that Hypatia was a world class scholar, astronomer, mathematician, and Platonic philosopher and of course pagan, didnt play well with the Christian supporters of Cyril so they both beat her and dragged her off to a Christian Church where they flayed her to death with broken roof tiles and broken oyster shells. went on a rapage and burnt the Great Library and museum down, destroying over almost 700 years of materials gfathered from all over the world since Alexander founded the city.

A few years later and Rome is sacked by Germanic tribes and the dark agges begin in the west, but the byzantines were no slackers when it came to religious persecution. Such was the political and religious intrigue in Byzantium that few of its emporors dies a natural death, most dying of poisoning, thoughthe Byzantines were very creative in their methods of removing emperors. Again Byzantium was a throcratic state where they did away with separation of Church and State. Emperor was the head of State and Head of the Faith. Of the 88 emperors of the Byzantine Empire 39 died violent deaths and thirteen toolk refuge in monestaries to avoid it. During the Christian Empire of Byzantium the average length of rule was less than 6 years. Only one empereor lived a very long life and that was Constantine himself who ruled for 30 years and died at the age of 60. Onew of the primary reasons that the Muslim Empire was so sucessful in its explansion was the comparative religious tolerance exhibited by Muslims as they spread the empire. Most Christians welcomed the Muslims with open arms as they were allowed to retain their faith if they paid a religious tax to do so. Since this tax was so low compared to the extreme taxation that the average person suffered under Christian rule, frequently Christian conspired with the invaders to help them in further conquest.

Islam retained its religious tolerance for hundreds of years until the brutality of the Crusades taught them intolerance. One the Mamlukes came into power, they decded that the only way to deal with the invaders was to meet intolerance with inolerance. They slaughtered the Latin Invaders, and their clerics, and once they finally repulsed them they returned the Christian Holy places to the control of the Eastern Orthodox Church. But the tone had been set. Once the expansion of Islam ended, and the Ottoman Turks took over from the Arab Caliphs, intolerance began to set in, primarily in reaction to the attempts of the Spanish and theefforts at Reconquista, as well as in the Balkans where The Holy Roman Empire continually attempted to take back Christian lands. ZAs a result the Turlks dealt more brutally with those attempting to revolt in areas they had conquered.

Something historically closer, and most closely resembling results of the 2004 election was the reign of Oliver Cromwell in England. Think about it. There is a great deal similar to the Puritanism of the mid 1600's and the Puritanism of America of the late 20th and ealry 21st century. IN fact, we might view the colonization of the United States as an extension of the reign of Cromwell. When the Puritans fell from power, they left England places that would tolerate them, until finally disgusted with the places tolerant enough to tolerate them to head out to the new world where they could find a place that they could establish their own place where they wouldnt have to tolerate anyone but themselves. The statement that the United States was founded by people seeking religious tolerance is not quite correct. The United States was founded by people who were tired of having to live anywhere in which they had to tolerate anyone else.

Sounds like the value voters are seeking to bring America back to its original values. THey want the same thing that the Pilgrims wanted. A land in which they did not have to tolerate anyone else.

Lets hope the Democrats figure out a way to the Restoration

[DELUSIONAL]

56. Uncle -- those who forget the past are forced to make the same errors

I'm copying this insightful review of history --

I've been calling this invasion of Iraq and the middle east by Necons and Religious right wingers -- Crusades II.

Your review of the history of the region puts a new perspective on this attempt to dominate Iraq (with sights on the whole region.)

[mcg]

40. Picture of Falwell hugging his buddy cult leader Sun Myung Moon

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/televangelists/jerry-falwell/

[saigon68]

41. Jerry Falwell

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/televangelists/jerry-falwell/

Jerry Falwell is a prominent Southern Baptist Jesus freak, in addition to the whitest man who ever lived. He is famous for making ignorant and offensive pronouncements which are often followed by retractions and halfhearted apologies.
Falwell has built a shtick out of making ridiculously offensive statements about his detractors. A shining example of this was the statement he made two days after the 9-11 terror attacks, while the wreckage at Ground Zero was still smoking:


"The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America, I point the finger in their face and say: you helped this happen."

[mcg]

46. Bush Inaugural Prayer Luncheon sponsored by Moon

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/132/33.0.html

'Not all of this evangelical-courting is necessarily in the past. It continues. While not many Christian leaders may have realized it at the time, Moon sponsored George W. Bush's Inaugural Prayer Luncheon for Unity and Renewal on Jan. 19. More than 1,400 ministers, civic and political leaders attended the event. Moon spoke to the attendees while church members handed out Unification books and pamphlets.'

http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?ID=10187

Oh, and Moon was crowned this year in the Senate office building.

[GiovanniC]

44. You Know, Just This Morning I Was Thinking

"You know what we need? A new evangelical fundamentalist coalition in this fucking country."

My prayers have been answered.

[arwalden]

45. Oh Great Another Christian Coalition Gestapo

[mulethree]

47. Ka-Ching!! The reverend smells money to be made!

[xxqqqzme]

53. that was my first thought

he'll have people, who can ill-afford it, sending him their nickles, dimes 'n quarters in food stamp change. All the while the uber RW is providing 4 him very well. falwell is certainly not the picture of a person who denies himself anything.

Eye of the needle jerry!

[bullimiami]

48. steal the world for jesus foundation

of course its not actually FOR jesus, and no matter that they cant win without the stealing.


oh they are such good people. just good. good.

[Jack Schitt]

49. Do I really need to say it again?

God damn RW fundie fucks!

[Furity]

50. Sign me up, baby

We all, for the first time, began to realize the potential of reLigious conservatives, particularly evangelicals, when something over 30 million of them went to the polls," he said, noting most supported the president and pro-life candidates and helped vote down 11 same-sex marriage initiatives around the country.

/sarcasm/

I'LL BE SENDING THIS MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SUCKERS THAT VOTED FOR BUSH REALIZE WHAT THEY HAVE IN MIND FOR THEM. I'VE BEEN TELLING THEM THIS FOR 4 YEARS, BUT THEY DON'T LISTEN TO ME.

~Furity

[Erika]

51. Yeah BushRove maintained a sophisticated data base of ultra radicals

to keep them angry, scared, and energized. And he got them out.
Brilliant politcal move.

It sure must suck to be a GOP Bushie Republican.

[dmr]

52. Now, what were they saying about activist judges?

From the article:

He added that the new group's mission would be to lobby for pro-life conservatives to fill openings on the Supreme Court and lower courts, a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, and the election of another "George Bush-type" conservative in 2008.

Typical hypocrites!

[Erika]

55. Just Ultra Conservative Bush

And his radicals.

[undergroundpanther]

59. Hand puppet

Hand puppet THe only thing I'd chage Because frist LIKED skinning cats...I can't stand the idea of that pig skinning cats.


Sonofagun
It's Robertson,
With Tom Delay to boot!

*The cats are is skinning frist again*

This hell sure is a hoot!

[theHandpuppet]

60. I like your revision!

Gives the original an appropriate twist! :) i hope karma really is a bitch, because that sick sadist deserves a huge dose of it.

[leesa]

63. We need to fight these lunatics with everything we have.

[trogdor]

65. Oh, goody.

Someplace to absorb stupid people's excess money. It'll probably be about as effective as the old organization was.

[mcg]

66. Unholy Alliance - Christianity & The NWO

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm

"... For those few of you who are not familiar with the Rev. Moon, in the 60s both he and his Unification Church were universally regarded as a dangerous cult. The abuse his followers suffered at the hands of their mind manipulating master is indeed very well established.

His claims include stating that Christ failed His mission, and that Moon himself is the "new messiah" who is come to fulfill the mission of God. He also claims that it is his mission to 'unite the world through uniting religious forces'. But would it shock you to know that nearly all the big name Christian evangelicals have extremely strong ties to him?

One such Church leader and internationally recognized evangelical Christian, Jerry Falwell, readily admits that he accepted 2.5 million dollars from Moon in 1994 in order to bail out his Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia. This was funneled through a Moon organization known as the 'Womens Federation for World Peace' which has been chaired by Beverly LaHaye, Wife of Timothy LaHaye, who is the popular co-author of the "Left Behind" Christian fictional book series and a well known evangelical Christian. ..."

[hyphenate]

67. Un-fucking-believable

Our country will soon slide from the high of being a world power to a theocratic backwater dictatorial state with the evangelicals and the fundies taking control of everything, teaching creationism instead of evolution, and giving the south back its power to hold slaves. King George will be able to say he's proud of what he's accomplished, as he steps over the millions who live in the streets because housing has become too expensive for 90% of the population, as he breathes the sulphurous air through a gas mask, and while animals die by the millions because their habitats have been stripped bare by drilling for oil. Sounds like a lot of old time science fiction writers had our future already pegged, I say. Read Blade Runner, for example--sounds monstrous, but it's our new future. This country is going down the tubes--and faster than you can say BBV fraud.

[Nicholas_J]

68. O.K.

we all have to get togetther, and found a Church of Asatru, and then set up social programs out of it and get federal money for a faith based initiative in which we cure people of drug addiction and other problems based on pagan principals.

[restorefreedom]

69. oh, good

just what we need