Man Kills Self at Ground Zero

[Snellius]

NEW YORK — A 25-year-old university worker from Georgia shot and killed himself at ground zero (search) Saturday morning, authorities said.

The man, Andrew Veal (search), of Athens, Ga., was found atop the structure housing the 1 and 9 subway lines after a hotel worker spotted what he believed was somebody sleeping inside the site around 8 a.m., said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A shotgun was found near the body, Coleman said. No suicide note was found, he said.

Veal apparently was distraught over President Bush's (search) re-election, Newsday reported Saturday on its Web site edition, citing an unnamed police source. The newspaper also said the man was a registered Democrat who opposed the war in Iraq.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137837,00.html

On edit:
Here is the original Newsday story:
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-suic1107,0,7756290.story?coll=ny-nynews-headlines

[Straight Shooter]

1. Well, he should have waited.

"re-election"? I hate that word when it's so blatantly misused.

[The Sheik]

2. Well, thats a pretty bad fate.

[Blue_Tires]

3. i think the people at fox are secretly chuckling over this

but i feel sorry for the person that feels things are so bleak that suicide is the only way out

[CottonBear]

11. Oh no!

He lived in my town. How awful for his family, So unnecessary.

[pretzel4gore]

13. they were openly gloating over hurricaine

that threatened and damaged cuba couple years ago....typical nazipoo mentality...

[Love Bug]

53. Well, some here were gloating over the hurricanes that hit FL

[pretzel4gore]

76. not on tv.....

and not hi paid mediawhores. Sure, there are some of us HEADBANGERS who are sick of the nazipoos always fukking winning, and hapless innocent always getting it between the eyes (with the proviso that floriduh has alot of nazipoos)
i wonderthink some of us maybe need emasculation

[Rose Siding]

4. Rest in peace, Andrew

[alittlelark]

5. I wonder if the Faux news anchor that told the story

was smirking?

[eleny]

6. I hope FoxNews is proud of themselves

After all, they called it. The bastards.

"Republicans and conservatives can best advance the cause of civility by working hard to finish off the hopes of the Democrats for any return to power. It is like neutering barnyard animals: they are much calmer, less likely to cause damage, and easier to control. As the vet says, "They will be happier; this is good for them." " -Grover Norquist

[NEOBuckeye]

14. Norquist is an arrogant fool

His words are a prelude to war, and ultimately, destruction for this country. The rest of the world will only grow to further oppose the neo-conservative dominated U.S.

[NorthernSpy]

31. Grover Shmover

Democrats and progressives can best advance the cause of civility by working hard to finish off the hopes of the Republicans for any chance of getting anything done, especially after the midterm elections of '06. It is like the processing of barnyard animals: they are much calmer, less likely to cause damage, and easier to control once they are shrink-wrapped and placed in the meat cooler. As the guy at the deli counter says, "They will be happier; and they fill a good sandwich plus potato salad and pickle, all for just $3.25

Send Grover right over! :nuke:

[SemperEadem]

86. But Grover, Jesus doesn't feel the same way

He said "whatsoever you do to the least of them, you do it to me..." Grover--you want to neuter Jesus?

See, you have to turn it on them using their own weapons.

[George_S]

61. You don't understand. We are up against eugenics.

They merely think this man wasn't fit survive and that they, society and anything in his environment isn't responsible at all.

[ignatius 2]

7. How tragic. May he find peace in a better world than the one the

BFEE has created.

[tridim]

8. If I hear one freeper take joy in this development

Well, let's just say I hope I don't.

Another soul murdered by King George, RIP brother.

[GRLMGC]

27. I have a feeling

you will

[0rganism]

43. Why wouldn't they? To them, it's just one less Demonrat voter

They really do hate us. It's not a negotiable point.

[Loki]

9. God speed Andrew

May you be at peace now.

[aquart]

10. He won't be the last.

Bush is gonna make death look like the good option.

[Hog lover]

47. Sadly, he might have later been killed with more pain

fighting future wars that are surely on the way because of the neo-con nuts in control of our government.

[rwheeler31]

12. This is trajic and very strange that no note was left

but the cause was determined. Who is teaching the basics of reporting these days.

[pretzel4gore]

15. wish based reportage

lol

[icymist]

16. Killing ourselves is exactly what the re-thugs want us to do.

Sucide is a cop-out! Stay and fight another day....stand! Don't give up over this election...it's not over.

[Amigust]

44. Sometimes it draws attention to a problem that nothing

else can do quite as well. For instance, look at the self-immolations of the Buddhist monks in Vietnam to protest the war. Worldwide attention that was not forgotten, and part of the pressure that produced the Paris peace talks.

During the WTO (I think) talks in Cancun a few years ago, a farmer climbed up on a fence outside the talks and shot himself to draw attention to the failures of the talks to address the concerns of farmers. Still remembered.

Was that Andrew Veal's intention? The Port Authority reported no suicide note.

[BBG]

49. Actually...

the activist stabbed himself with a pocketknife. To the heart as I recall. Definitely hardcore.

[Amigust]

72. Thanks for that refresher. n/t

[MnFats]

84. there was at least one immolation outside the DoD during Vietnam..

....by an American.
....I'm afraid we will see more of this as we sink deeper into this quagmire and Bush, his smirk intact, continues to ramble about having the "will of the people at his back."
right.
people already suffering from clinical depression....it must seem hopeless to some.

[LiberteToujours]

17. The freepers are gonna have a good laugh over this one

[Maat]

19. Stay and fight another day.

n/t

[icymist]

20. Who gives a F**K about what the freepers think?!

And who here doesn't know that Faux News spins the truth to their advantage?

[tinanator]

57. what truth?

mutually exclusive. you'll get the truth out of Bush as soon as from their sorry asses.

[Edmond Dantes]

21. Yep, they love watching people suffer. Sadistic bastards.

[Zero Gravitas]

18. Too bad

He'll miss Chimpy's impeachment in 2007.

[hollywood926]

22. Grover Norquist is the second best thing that ever happened to me...

next to the shrub. I used to be asleep...now I am awake WITH A FIRE UNDER MY ASS. And these people are going to be sorry they ever met me!

(after they meet me!)

Bush kills another...how sad...I wonder if he has notches in his belt.

[coloradodem2005]

23. 2007?

Have you gone to the future? Why will he be impeached in 2007?

[Zero Gravitas]

Why?

Because the earliest the Dems can take back congress is Nov 2006 and the new congress won't be seated until 07. And as we saw with Bill Clinton you don't need a reason to impeach a president just the ability (i.e. a majority in the house.)

Deliberately misleading the American People about the reasons for invading another country is a good reason for impeachment in my book.

[coloradodem2005]

29. Well then.

We'd better make damned sure we can take back the congress in 2006.

[Zero Gravitas]

32. Indeed

given that 41% of registered voters voted "none of the above" and 25% of Chimp voters thought about voting for Kerry it is entirely possible that we can take Congress in 2 years. If Bush is half as bad as we expect him to be there will be millions of Americans banging their heads against the wall & screaming "why did I vote for that fool?" in time for the 2006 elections.

[CAcyclist]

35. No, he'll miss the scene on Jan 20

when we stand in front of the motorcade and don't let it pass until they give up and go away.

Make the protest big enough, the people committed enough and we can stop the inauguration. I will not live in a world where I have no say, but I can use my body to stop Bush.

[Amigust]

62. masses stop the motorcade - what a great idea

[MADem]

68. I think EVERYONE SHOULD RESPECTFULLY LINE THE ROUTE

...and in their pocket, have a small square of sticky electric tape.

As the Chimp's car approaches, put the sticky square of black tape directly under the nose, raise the right arm in a Nazi salute, and shout SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL!

The best thing about this sort of protest is that there ain't NO way you can see what people will be doing, until it is done. Get enough people out there--thousands would be fabulous--and it would make some serious news. Everyday, average people, wearing everyday clothes, no obvious signage...just a square of black tape, kept in the pocket or taped to the back of a lapel until the right moment. Grandmas, grampas, little kids, Nazi saluting that little Nazi...it would send a strong signal to the rest of the world that we all haven't overdosed on Kool-Aid.

[Hosnon]

24. I went to school in Athens at UGA...it's a very liberal town and

I can see how a person of this type could arise out of the atmosphere. Very tragic.

[Kemet]

25. Chilling

Rest in peace my friend.

[GarySeven]

26. Here's an article the man wrote ...

http://www.arches.uga.edu/~mgagnon/students/Veal.htm

On how people behaved in church in antebellum Athens, Ga.
(Remember, UGA is the oldest state-chartered university, founded in 1789.)

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

28. He is not the first... there have been hundreds in and around the site

it is sick.

[Rose Siding]

37. I really didn't know that

All the searches I did only turn up suicide bombers. Do you know from local coverage?

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

39. Local coverage, no... they ignore it here like the plague. From

very painful personal experience.

[Rose Siding]

50. *

I'm very sorry for your loss.

[Maddy McCall]

41. Seriously?

This is so sad. So sad. :cry:

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

63. Yes, very seriously.

Partners, sons, daughters, wives, husbands... what have you. Hundreds would be too many... more like dozens, I misspoke before.
The note my friend left said he felt he should have died like others he worked with, that his life had been ruined since 9/11 and that he wanted to go where they had gone.

[slackmaster]

79. If what you're saying is true it doesn't bode well for the next election

Dead people technically aren't supposed to vote.

[dave29]

30. Re: Fox... Brit Hume's son killed himself. I hope they aren't chuckling

just FYI

Monday, February 23, 1998; 8:27 p.m. EST

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Speaker Newt Gingrich on Monday mourned the death of Sandy Hume, a rising young Capitol Hill reporter and son of prominent Fox News broadcaster Brit Hume.

Hume, 28, a reporter for The Hill newspaper, committed suicide Sunday night, said Martin Tolchin, publisher and editor in chief of the paper.

Hume died in his Arlington, Va., apartment Sunday night, said Tolchin. ``You can imagine, we're all absolutely crushed by this,'' Tolchin said. ``We're devastated.'' Arlington police officials didn't immediately return telephone messages Monday concerning Hume's death.

Hume worked for two years on The Hill, and broke the story about last summer's attempted revolt in the Republican leadership against Gingrich, R-Ga.

[Chelsea Patriot]

48. Sandy Hume Killed himself because his dad hated his homosexuality.

He was involved in one of those gay marriages with Bill Paxton, husband to Susan Molinari, and instigator of the above mentioned Anti-Gingrich Revolt.

[NVMojo]

33. this is weird for I was thinking ...on the day after election failure

abut those monks who set themselves on fire in the late 50s-early 60s in Viet Nam ...I was wondering about people who see the truth and can't handle the ignorance around them.....that's what they do ....

[Minstrel Boy]

34. What's weirder is, I had the same thought.

I knew a second theft would be unbearable for many, and that some would make this choice.

:(

[sweetheart]

42. suprised he did not use the capital hill steps

7 monk immolations was a moving change that helped move the body
politic out of endorsing the viet nam war crime....

We'll see much more of this, as the nazi's drive decent people over
the edge with their "support us" or die message.

[saigon68]

51. BARBECUE CIRCLE IN SAIGON (slang GI term forTrung Minh Ky)

On the morning of June 11, 1963, a startling spectacle of protest occurred in downtown Saigon.
Buddhist militants blocked off a busy intersection as an elderly monk sat in the middle of the
street. Thich Quang Duc did not so much as blink as compatriots drenched him in gasoline. The
robed man sat unflinching in a meditative posture even when a supporter set him alight. Quang
Duc burned quickly in orange flame and fell over dead before an ambulance or fire-truck could
reach him. Only his heart remained, which was recovered and later enshrined. Spectators included
pedestrians and foreign correspondents who had been alerted and directed to the scene by
organizers. The incident shocked everyone in attendance.

[Amigust]

70. This man sat in meditation posture while he burned.

Eventually, he was so charred that he fell over. Then he extended his arm and uprighted himself once again in the meditation posture. He was already at the time and still is, regarded as a saint.

[saigon68]

75. I definitely agree with you.

Look at the Bloodshed after his happened MILLIONS KILLED

[Amigust]

69. Those monks were heroes who died to draw world attention

to the outrage of Viet Nam, and their actions helped achieve the Paris Peace Talks.

They weren't trying to make a getaway from the ignorance around them, far from it.

[LisaL]

36. Poor guy.

[Amigust]

38. I suspect there will be many, many more over time,

although we won't hear about most of them.

[flordehinojos]

40. does bush even care that someone would oppose him to the extreme of even

taking their own lives? do poppy or mommy bush even care that people reject their son to the extreme of taking their own lives? they do not give a darn!

[Wols]

46. I'm guessing Bush could care less

Very sad.

[TheDonkey]

45. :-( incredibly sad.

wish he could have realized he had more power on earth to fight this chaos.

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[sffreeways]

55. Strange you've been booted

I can't imagine why :eyes:

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[Corgigal]

54. as a NY'er I understand

his pain. He felt we didn't give the victims justice. I just wish one of us DU'ers could have reached out to this young man.

[BUSHOUT]

56. Anyone who does that is a fucking idiot...n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

60. i understand why you have to

say that-
but to some, 4 years (more) is too much to endure-
hope is the thing with feathers
that pearches in the soul

andthis country is flying with a broken wing-
i understand his action


i trust he's at last at peace-

he wasn't the first, and he won't be the last.
There IS a fate worse than death-

[NEOBuckeye]

73. Yeah, so you wouldn't do it. Neither would I. But we don't know his pain.

Or the pain of those who have lost loved ones because of this vile regime.

Sadly, I have a feeling that this is going to get much worse before it really gets any better. Much more blood will be spilt, and lives lost. We are dealing with truly evil men who will stop at nothing to claim all that they feel ought to be theirs. I can't really blame anyone for not wanting to stick around and suffer through this long and terrible battle.

[ever_green]

58. More blood on Bush's hands

How sad.

[Guaranteed]

64. If he was going to do that, he could have really gone out with a bang

and doused himself in gasoline on the street behind "Fox and Friends" and lit a match.

[lakeguy]

65. freaky, seems like i'm reading some end of the world type

novel but it's actually happening right before my eyes. my lyin eyes that is. must...not...believe...

[keopeli]

66. KoolAid ALERT! This article is KoolAid! Do NOT drink!

There was no note. The facts are:

Suicide with no note.
Happened at ground zero.

The rumors are:

Despondent democrat.

To this reporter, that equals Democratic Martyr.

That is classic KoolAid! DO NOT DRINK!

[ticapnews]

67. Good to see the compassionate conservatives are still around

Bobbie Jensen, 54, a Republican from Phoenix, said that while she understood how Bush's victory disturbed those who dislike him, Ground Zero is not the place to act on those emotions.

"You can be upset about the war, about Bush, but this is a sacred place," she said.

Translation: Democrats, if you want to kill yourselves, don't do it on a holy Republican landmark.

[Sleepless In NY]

71. ticapnews.. only republicans may exploit Ground Zero

I read Bobbie Jensen's remarks too...what a hypocrite. Republicans like bush & guilliani may be responsible for Ground Zero being there, incompetent as they are, but they sure as hell don't own it. They used 9/11 like a mop for their convention. I feel really sorry for this young man, obviously he wasn't well, but I know quite a few people who have entertained the same thought, after having to endure bush's exploitation of that site. I'm only sorry my democratic party gave bush a free pass on his neglectful & incompetent behavior before 9/11.

[Bluebear]

74. Dear Bobbie, take heart. There may be a campaign ad in there somehwere.

Get Karl right on it, maybe the ad can lavish praise on the Patriot Act 2 or something.

[umtalal]

77. Rest in Peace Andrew. Let us keep the hope alive.Keep the hope alive.

[slackmaster]

78. Election may have been the last straw for this unfortunate man

But it was not "the" cause.

People usually commit suicide because of depression or physical illness. People who commit suicide as a protest always leave a note.

[bitchkitty]

80. Oh my God.

Oh my God, oh my God. I am crying, poor Andrew. Poor America. I know the feelings of hopelessness and helplessness. Without hope, with no help in sight. That poor, poor man.

[kori]

81. This story makes no sense

He gets in there in the first place goes around NYC with a shot gun. Was to be married, and worked for the survey group at university of Georgia. Doesn't anyone find this strange?

[vetwife]

83. I understand...Living in Ga. Most do. When we said we can't take

another 4 years of Bush some really meant that ! This person was probably a real activist and worked his heart out and was very obssessed with ridding the country of Bush. I feel bad for his family. I feel bad for his fiance and Athens is one part of Ga that went blue. I understand ...I don't agree but understand that maybe he had all he could handle. We have no idea how the Monkey affected him personally.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

82. So he'll be remembered for more than a day in DU

Death be not proud...

Rest nicely Andrew.

[Cronus Protagonist]

85. Why "Man Kills Self"?

That's quite a reach and convoluted compared to say, "Suicide at Ground Zero" which is surely a more arresting title.

Show your support for the president, wear a FUCK BUSH button!

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