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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:23 PM
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Military Is Afraid to Tell Bush, Cheney the Truth, Says Sy Hersh…
Military Is Afraid to Tell Bush, Cheney the Truth, Says Sy Hersh in 'WP' Online Chat

Published: November 04, 2004 5:50 PM EST

NEW YORK Seymour Hersh, the famed reporter known for breaking stories from My Lai to Abu Ghraib, said in a Washingtonpost.com chat today that "the major media have been part of the problem since 9-11, merely because they have far too often taken the president's public utterances at face value."

He added: "There also is a terrific unwillingness, perhaps understandable (though not by me), to make a moral judgment about a president's policies. There are plenty of people on the inside who are worried about the policies, especially among military guys, and I'm sure their views will increasingly become known."

Hersh, who has rarely sat for such chats, was asked about voters' lack of information on certain key issues, as revealed by non-partisan polls. "The most distressing issue, for me, in the election was the lack of information and the lack of interest in information about far too many of the electorate -- obviously, I'm referring to many of the religious factions who voted for Bush," he said. "The reality is that far too many Americans are not interested in the facts, or in reality." He added, however , that this just might be "a loser's lament." (He backed Kerry.)

Some of the other exchanges:

Asked how the Republicans can refer to the narrow Bush victory as a mandate, Hersh said, "You would be right in a rational world. Welcome to the Bush White House."

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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:24 PM
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1. Sure wish ...
... someone would leak the remaining Abu Ghraib photos. Damn the consequences.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:25 PM
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2. wish someone would spill all the beans about this corrupt
admin
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:31 PM
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4. I sure wish the Christian Conservatives were true Christians
because maybe the eventual leaking of the videos of child rape at Abu Ghraib might have an effect. But apparently, George Bush could sodomize and then decapitate adolescents on national TV and be applauded by this crowd, as long as he's "born again" and talks like a cowboy.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:45 PM
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8. In truth they are!
Remember the crusades, witch burnings, Jewish pogroms,the inquisitions and the many religious wars of Europe. Christianity has a "proud" history of fascism and violence.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:28 PM
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3. Only one ting I could tinnk here
Some gnerals and admirals will be shot for treaon when they finally break this to the Fuehrer... just as the first one

Oh and we will have a draft now, after Fallujah is done for
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steely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:37 PM
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7. You are so right - * gets handed another alibi. eom
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:35 PM
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5. Proto-fascism: Get the military under complete control.
Any generals who dissent must be eliminated. Check.

Loyalty to the leader more important than competence. Check.

If the military, especially the Army, has any high ranking officers that still love their country, it is time for them to speak out.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:02 PM
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14. If the military . . .
"If the military, especially the Army, has any high ranking officers that still love their country, it is time for them to speak out."

The silence is deafening.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:37 PM
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6. Have these guys looked in the mirror?.....You are THE military!!!!!
You have more power than ......they do.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:48 PM
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9. Someone needs to tell the truth
and will be believed! Yet, the sad thing is.... people are telling the truth, no one is listening ..... my God, why??????

Is it insulation? Then we need to get rid of the insulation. The insulation is KARL ROVE!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:04 PM
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10. Fuck'em
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:05 PM
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11. awol tends to kill the messenger when he's angry. n/t
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:05 PM
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12. "A few good men" is on TV tonight
not sure what made me thing of this...

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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:51 PM
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13. Lt. Col. Matthew Markinson?
The J. T. Walsh character?

:(

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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:15 PM
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15. Can someone explain.....just exactly "why" they are afraid?
This lack of information issue and lack of interest in information is a very troubling issue.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:37 PM
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16. Tweety Hah!
Asked if the blue states should secede from the union, now dominated by the south, he (Hersh) said: "The other side tried that once and it didn't work."

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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 08:53 PM
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18. I would have loved to have heard that ! n/t
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:02 PM
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19. If at 1st you don't succeed....
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 09:03 PM by jmcgowanjm
Bush has destroyed the nation/state model.

See treaty of Westphalia 1648 which preemptive invasion
has rendered mute.

Westphalia est. nation/states while
ratifying the end of Spanish Empire.

Notice w PeakOil how many nation/states
have been dismembered since 1989.

The trend is your friend.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 08:38 PM
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17. kick
:kick:
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