BREAKING: CLARK A DEM

[matcom]

CNN NOW!

[Caution]

1. Keep us cubicle rats updates...

Has he announced his candidacy?

[matcom]

2. not (yet)

don't know

[Wonk]

4. Nope.

"My family and I are moving toward closure on that issue".

[liberalnurse]

5. No, he is still processing and moving toward closure.

Benchmark September 19. No decision yet, as he and his wife are reviewing his options.

[damnraddem]

27. 'Moving towards closure' -- translation:

maybe VP this time around.

[absolutezero]

3. just saw it

you beat me to the announcement.

I'm a Dean supporter, but if Clark can get momentum I might jump over

[liberalnurse]

I think he is balking for a good reason.....

I still am hedging my bet he will anounce becomming the Dean VP. He and Dean will anounce it in IOWA. Fundraising will escalate for the end of the quarter.....

[calimary]

24. Oh Dear God, that would be THE ticket. A Dream Team

if EVER there was one! Heavens I hope you're correct!

[Proud_American]

33. Amen!!!

Seems to me Clark support is escalating among DUers despite a shaky start. For the record, I was with him the whole time! :shrug:

[sendero]

42. I would LOVE....

... that ticket! I'm certain they could send Bush* back to Crawford to handle that dangerous cedar brush!

[RaRa]

43. I don't know, does a VP really make a difference?

I mean, I like Clark and would love to see him enter the race. But, I kid of doubt that a running mate makes a real bottom line difference. Bush Sr. still won with Quayle. He definately wouldn't HURT Dean, but really help him that much? Maybe.

[Pastiche423]

44. It would hurt Dean

due to the anti-militaristic Dean supporters.

[Chico Man]

47. Uh..

No! Dean supporters are not anti-militaristic. Perhaps they didn't support the war in Iraq. Dean has said again and again that he would defend America with our troops if neccecary.

A Dean / Clark ticket is golden, face it.

[stickdog]

51. Pundantic, know-nothing bullshit

Clark as VP would wrap it up for Dean.

[MODemocrat]

52. I'm A Howard Dean Supporter, but certainly NOT anti-militaristic

There is no connection between the two; just because we don't believe in that bloody unprovoked war does in no way mean that we do not support the troops and the military in general. Don't be using such a broad brush.

[kstewart33]

38. Jump over, please

Clark is the Dems' best hope. He's got a sterling resume, a brilliant mind, he's more articulate than any candidate out there Repub or Dem, and he's got character. Not to mention a military record that will kill any Repub attempt to paint him as weak on security and defense.

If Clark jumps in, I will do something I have never done before. Get out there and work for him.

[Pastiche423]

39. How can he be the Dems best hope

when he's never governed before?

Oh, you mean, he's the best hope if the Dems play by the repug's rules.

:eyes:

[Fixated]

6. .....

Ohhhh yeah. Goddamn it, announce your candidacy! I need this man.

[RichV]

8. speaking engagemetn in IA on 9/19...

Looks like that might be the day.

[FlashHarry]

7. That has to be the worst-kept secret in politics!

He's smart, insightful, caring, good-looking... Of course he's a Dem!

[kentuck]

9. Whew! I'm glad he said he was a Democrat...

That would have been embarrassing for some folks....then, maybe not??

[damnraddem]

28. Good, but ...

it would also have been good had he said he was a Republican and running for prez in 2004. ;-)

[Kool Kitty]

10. Sez he's

"proud to be a Democrat". That makes two of us, Wesley. Nice to hear him finally say it.

[_NorCal_D_]

11. This is good,

This is VERY good! B-):thumbsup:

[HereSince1628]

12. This man is slower at reaching decisions than Jimmy Carter

Not knocking JC, thoughtfulness is highly under-rated. But if its taken him this long to declare his party affiliation imagine how long it will take for other things...

[_NorCal_D_]

13. Patience.

Good things come to those who wait, right?
:shrug:

[HereSince1628]

16. But the primaries are this winter!

I admit to not being in his camp at this point, but if he is going to raise money, distinguish himself, and build broad support its gonna take time.

I'm not sure he's being fair to his support.

[_NorCal_D_]

25. Yes you're

certainly right that it will take some time to assemble a full-blown campaign. However, as I recall Clinton didn't enter the race until late in the game and he was still able to defeat Bush I.

[Pastiche423]

15. A difference

It did not take Jimmy Carter this long to declare he was running for president. Nor did it take Jimmy Carter this long to declare he was a Democrat.

[HereSince1628]

20. Agreed, n/t

[JaneQPublic]

14. Next week: Clark announces he's currently registered to vote. (n/t)

[tameszu]

18. That would put him ahead of Arnold...

But seriously, I think he's going to announce a lot more than that next week...

[Chico Man]

17. GO WITH DEAN - that would make my day... (nt)

[Pastiche423]

22. Uh...

NO!!!

[Rollins]

19. careful dreaming the ultimate dream

You think the Dean/Clark ticket, it that is what happens in Iowa, would be allowed to serve one day in DC as the leaders of the free world? The GOP Elite have constructed a fantasy for the American TV viewer that has became the reality for millions and Dean/Clark would be faced with either joining the corporate machine and the fantasy or exposing it by telling the truth. You think millions could handle having their shaky reality torn down by the truth? Change is a slow process.

[matcom]

21. while i don't think there is a coherent sentence in your post....

you suggesting NOT telling the truth?

hmmmmm

[Stagger lee]

26. Clark and Kerry

I see Clark hooking up with Kerry. Together they could blunt any attacks from the Repubs dealing with Iraq or national security. Both of them could then focus on the key issue for Democrats: the economy and how Republicans show time and again that they do not give a d@mn about the working middle class. Kerry and Clark could paint the Republicans as a party that is bought and paid for by the economic elite.

[karlschneider]

35. Not sure how 2 military guys would play with te electorate.......

It wouldn't bother -me- that much but......:eyes:

[Rollins]

29. should of proof read first

Sorry Matcom I was doing a bit of rambling and the previous post lacked closure. What I ment to say was that Dean and Clark are truthful and would be a very good thing, too good for the American public who have had their reality built for them. My supposition is that the American majority could not handle the truth all at once and the Dean/Clark ticket would have to spoon feed us the facts gently. Or worse case senario they get eliminated or possibly catch the greed bug that so many other polititions have caught once they get to DC.

Whatever happens I think Dean/Clark are too truthful both for the American majority and the corporate Elite. We could not handle the truth because it would be so different than what we are hearing now.

[matcom]

31. thanks for the clarification

i think its about DAMN time the sheeple were told the truth, the whole truth and NOTHING but the truth.

if they can't handle it, fuck 'em. THEY put the idiot boy and his KKKlan where they are and its DAMN time they paid their pennance.

IMHO of course :hi:

[Rollins]

32. I agree

Maybe enough people have learned just how the politicians are screwing us and want someone new. Case in point: the insiders, Kerry, Edwards,LieberGOPman are doing so poorly in the presidential race while Dean and the potential Clark candidacy are going quite well. Maybe enough people are fed up and will lead the sheep through to some new, more truthful times?

[Trajan]

23. I used to smoke some goooood bud, Bud ....

But Im not sure I wrote anything quite like that before ....

[Rollins]

30. LOL Hey I am in Oregon what can I say?

I write what I think.

[CMT]

34. I'm convinced that Clark

will be on the ticket as either the presidential or vice-presidential nominee.

[BelgianMadCow]

36. find the transcript here :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=269889&mesg_id=269889

has the transcript by VolcanoJen, thought that may interest those who didn't catch it.

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[mvd]

40. I'll just say, it's great to have him involved

He can only help us, IMO.

[VolcanoJen]

41. He can most assuredly help us, any way you look at it.

He keeps the heat on WhistleAss, he keeps the headlines focused on the failures in prosecuting the war in Iraq, he keeps the ears of the military, and their supporters, pricked up at full attention, and he keeps his damned face on television.

Would all of prefer he weren't around at all?

Go, all anti-Chimpies, GO!

:-)
Jennifer

[jumptheshadow]

45. If he declares...

...he might also raise the level of debate during the primaries. By bringing fresh ideas to the discussions about national security, he could strengthen the image of our party on that issue.

[Kahuna]

50. We don't need no stinkin' national security candidates..

we're democrats! </sarcasm>

:eyes:

[xchrom]

46. first foray and running for prez

that's difficult -- but i will welcome another intelligent mind getting into the debate. if it's the dem party that looks vigorous and intelligent, then the public will respond positively.

[Dover]

48. Well I'm glad he was able to make a decision. Hope all his ideas

aren't so ambiguous.

[snyttri]

49. transcript

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0309/03/ip.00.html