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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:18 AM
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Bush Opens New Line of Attack on Kerry
WILKES-BARRE, Pa. - President Bush (news - web sites), in a new line of criticism aimed at Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites), said Friday the choice in this presidential race boils down to who can keep American homes safer from terrorists and contended his opponent was not up to the task during wartime.


Bush said families face five choices of "great consequence" in the election — security, home budgets, quality of life, retirement and values — but argued that security tops the list.


"All progress on every other issue depends on the safety of our citizens," Bush told supporters in a retooled stump speech. "Americans will go to the polls in a time of war and ongoing threat to our country."


Kerry, meanwhile, was scheduled to speak in Milwaukee before traveling to Reno, Nev., and Pueblo, Colo., one day after accusing the president of slowing scientific advancement and earning a special endorsement from the widow of actor Christopher Reeve.

mpre: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=716&e=2&u=/ap/20041022/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp

This is a new tactic??? Same old FEAR, FEAR, FEAR!!!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:19 AM
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1. Yeah, that's a funny headline. Different day, same shit.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:10 PM
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28. argh, that fecking whiny redneck voice of his!!!!!
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:20 AM
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2. "If ya vote fur John Kerry...
Yur all gonna die!!"
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:20 AM
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3. new line of attack
You mean "You can run, butt you cant hide" isnt working anymore??

I wonder what his next ignorant Bushism slogan is going to be

"Being President is hard work"
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:20 AM
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4. Here's my response:
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:21 AM
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5. what new line??
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:32 PM
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24. That's What I Want To Know. Are These Reptiles So Stale & Dried Up
they can't even come up with a NEW line?
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:21 AM
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6. Bush Flip-Flops on Strategy !!
:evilgrin:

Spread it loud and far: He can't even keep his damn campaign message straight !


:hippie:
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:22 AM
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7. 911 911 911
that just stopped working for most people.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:42 AM
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17. *shrub threw 911 out there in this speech too.
CNN (a**holes) broadcast quite a bit of this speech. I thought it was pretty tacky that they'd give *shrub this much free publicity. Bet they won't cover any parts of Kerry's speeches to this extent today. :grr:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:23 AM
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8. Can we compare him to Hitler yet?
Or, I should say, to Hitler's rise to power...

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:23 AM
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9. Didn't he just say Kerry was using fear to win the election? nt
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:52 AM
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21. Yeah; so what's your point?
Like Bush hypocrisy matters. What? Did you think he was a Democrat or something?
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:23 AM
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10. That's a new line of attack like my turds are chocolate brownies.
In other words, it may appear that way for the briefest of moments, but even a cursory examination shows that both of 'em are full of shit.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:27 AM
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11. You know you are lame when
You have to attack your opponent, even when you have the entire media on your side.










Today, I am really upset. Americans are to blame for all of what has happened. The fact that it's not 1% to 99% against Bush, tells me that the people aren't looking for the truth. I am convinced that without a giant change in the media, there will be a continuation of what is happening now. I don't have the slightest optimism. Sure, Kerry can win. But that's just one small fraction of the equation.
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:31 AM
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12. * is fearmongering?
It can't be true!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:32 AM
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13. No no no I thought it was Kerry waging a campaign of fear
Fear of jobs
Fear of safety
Fear of not having wars for no reason.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:36 AM
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14. Petgoat: Flushot, bioterror vaccines: draft
petgoat bush will just sit 7 minutes next time

Bush cant do flushots: how he vaccinate us against bioterror?

Bush will draft

Kerry bled, bush fled... put another way, ... Deserter attacks wounded vet
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:37 AM
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15. It's more disgusting than ever.
I heard part of the speech and can report several things:

*Bush is still trying to present himself as bipartisan (and we know what hooey that is) by mentioning that many Democrats voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and that President Clinton signed it.

*His new shtick is referencing Kerry's appearance in camouflage gear the other day.

*The 19-year-old female Afghan voter still gets a mention every speech.

*Bush is still pushing that Mr. Family Values and Security, as though the rest of us were heathen, feckless, sexually immoral peaceniks.

:puke:
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:40 AM
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16. Alert--Bush reinvents himself n/t
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:53 AM
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22. Shit Can't Be Reinvented
Shit stinks, it is messy, and it comes out of the asshole. Always has always will.....Bush is shit and there ain't no reinventing that.
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:15 PM
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31. Just playin' off the Gore 2000 meme--eom
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:49 AM
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18. Pure Billingsgate From The Crawford Coward
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 11:50 AM by The Magistrate
The cold fact is that the Islamic fundamentalist radicals present no substantial threat whatever to the United States of America. They may, it is true, kill a number of people in future, but they cannot do our nation any substantial injury; they are utterly lacking in the power to do us real harm without our own collaboration in the doing, by responding with hysterical cowardice to their pin-pricks.

The program of the criminals of the '00 Coup in this matter is precisely to play into the hands of these enemies of our country, by inculcating hysterical cowardice in our people. This they do because it will assist them in carrying out their designs to strip the people of the liberties essential for their political defense against the exactions of the grasping plutocracy these criminals represent, and because they believe it will give them near-term political advantage. In short, they are nothing but collaborationist traitors, working hand in glove with the enemies of our country.

"Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? Why, when it prosper, Sir, none dare call it Treason!"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:27 PM
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36. You Sir,
have hit the provberbial nail on the head.
We are not in the kind of danger * makes it out to be.
I like to ask those who believe him to explain to me how terrorists will deliver these blows to the US.
Do they have their own Air Force that will sneak in one night and bomb the 5 largest US cities?
Do they have a Navy that can lob shells from off the coast into our cities there?
Are they hiding a well armed, trained and protected force of soldiers who will spring out from behind every tree, house and bus from Bangor Maine to San Diego California?
We create our own danger and help it grow larger each day we keep our mis-used armed forces in the Middle East.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:50 AM
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19. One. More. Time. Bu$h is responsible for 9/11. As Court appointed
Commander-in-Chief, Bu$h failed to prevent a huge terrorist attack on the WTC. He gets no pass on this. It was his responsibility to protect the country and he blew it big time.

I believe that, since Bu$h has been in the WH, more Americans have died from terrorist attacks right here in our own country than all the Americans that died in combat during the previous 4 1/2 Presidential Administrations after the War in Vietnam - almost 30 years.

Also, I believe that more Americans have died in combat during Bu$h's court appointed tenure than all the Americans that died in combat during the previous 4 1/2 administrations, again almost 30 years.

Bu$h already failed. We already know that he does not know how to keep Americans safe.

Bu$h is campaigning on his own blatant failures. IMO, John Kerry should call him out on this.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:52 AM
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20. I think Kerry is missing a good opportunity
To use Bush's turning away from efforts to capture bin Laden and instead go into Iraq by pointing out the average length of time between Al Qaeda attacks on civilians...

We have 1993, 1998, and 2001, average length between attacks on American targets that were non military...three years...we have Bush letting bin Laden escape by taking the focus in the war on terror from Afghanistan, where the actual planners and financers of all these events were based, to Iraq, where there was never any evidence of linkage...

Bush has given bin Laden and Al Qaeda the amount of time they needed to plan, finance, coordinate, and perhaps even order the beginning of the next attack that they needed to be ready to act. And the closk is ticking.

Worse, in the last three years we have learned nothing about the financial network of Al Qaeda. Though the administration has learned stuff from the AL Qaeda leaders they have captured, they have learned nothing about how Al Qaeda gets the money it needs to finance its terrorist strikes and other operations. This alone is indicative that a very small group know where the money is and how to access it. Meaning that getting bin Laden and those with him on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border would be the surest means to strike at Al Qaeda and cause enough harm to greatly limit its ability to operate.

bin Laden seem to have been both the Henry Forrd and the Venture Capitalist of terrorism. He and Al Qaeda standardised terrorist operating procedures world wide, and he also seems to provide the seed money for almost all Islamic terror operations outside of the Israel/Palestinian area.

Taking out bin Laden and leaving Hussein to be dealt with later would have greatly redueced the possbility of a future September 11th type attack, and made America much safer.

And this has been Kerry's strategy from the beginning. His first statements about the war on terror and involvement in Iraq was that unless direct links between 9/11. Al Qaeda, WMD's and Hussein could be proven to exist, we should deal with bin Laden and Al Qaeda first, and then dicuss how to deal with Hussein with the international community.

All Bush has done was make the mistake that Germnay made in world war II, He has opened a two from war on terrorism, where before there was only one front. Though terrorism is a global problem, its very heart and life blood were centered wherever bin Laden and his closest followers were. Budh has made us susceptible to attack from any direction by letting bin Laden go free for the last three years.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:19 PM
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23. Wolf!!
Isn't it hilarious that the Chimp's newest ad basically consists of yelling "Wolf!"

"who can keep American homes safer from terrorists"
Uh, who blew off the "Bin Laden Determined to Strike" memo and stayed on vacation in August, 2001?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:36 PM
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26. I was thinking of Henny Penny and"The Sky is Falling"
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:50 PM
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27. The new Chimp ad HAS wolves...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1963&e=8&u=/ap/20041022/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_ads

Jeeze, those terrorists must be really scared of a weakass drunk who can't face his own handpicked 9/11 commission without Dick Cheney to hold his hand. But then, don't forget, the Bin Ladens know him personally and know what a useless twit he is.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:20 PM
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32. I saw that and COULD NOT BELIEVE IT!
But here are the REAL WOLVES AT OUR DOOR:

Iraq's new security forces are heavily infiltrated by insurgents, and the guerrilla groups have access to almost unlimited money to pay for deadly attacks, according to a U.S. defense official who provided new details on the evolution of the rebels.

A significant part of the insurgents' money is coming from sympathizers in Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi government is neglecting the problem, said the official, who was authorized by the Pentagon to speak on the issue this week, but only on condition of anonymity.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-ainsurgency22oct22,0,6634533.story?coll=sfla-news-nationworld
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:22 PM
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33. Amazing, isn't it?
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 05:23 PM by MrBenchley
Did you catch this earlier this week?

"The chairman of the nation's Homeland Security Advisory Council was helping to guide America's security strategy at the same time he was a top executive with an international banking firm that was investigated and eventually fined more than $100 million for cash transfers to rogue nations, including Iraq, Iran, Libya and Cuba, a Newsday investigation has found.
Joseph Grano Jr., 56, said he did not inform Bush administration officials, including Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge, about the problems of Swiss banking giant UBS, where he worked until June, because he said it "is public record" and he wasn't required to do so.
Grano said he assumed Ridge and the administration already knew about the federal investigation of UBS, where Grano worked as one of the bank's senior-most executives after its $11 billion merger with his old firm PaineWebber in January 2001. He simultaneously served on the advisory council and as an executive at UBS for two years."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-engran15,0,2569046,print.story?coll=ny-top-span-headlines

Wolf!
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:16 PM
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30. Tee hee...
Maybe he should cry "LESLIE!"

:evilgrin:
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:35 PM
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25. Time of war? What happened to 'mission accomplished?'
We sure are safe under your administration, huh Chimp? You can't even provide a simple flu vaccine without fucking it up and we're supposed to trust you on issues of real security???

Wow. Earth to asshole: so long, sucker!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:12 PM
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29. What's new about that line of attack? Bad headline.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:25 PM
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34. None of old ones are working. Scraping bottom of barrel now.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:26 PM
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35. let me see if I understand this
"Bush said families face five choices of "great consequence" in the election — security, home budgets, quality of life, retirement and values — but argued that security tops the list. "

Does * really want to bring this up?

Security: given memo about terrorists on August 6, spent next month clearing brush on a bankrupt pig farm, trying to figure out how to talk about stem cells without pissing off the fundies

Home budgets: personal bankruptcies at record, consumer debt at record, inflation on health care at double digits all while * crafts yet more tax breaks for companies that outsource.

quality of life: see above

retirement: call September 11 "hitting the trifecta" that allowed him to hand the keys to the treasury to Halliburton, et. al.

all that's left is:

values: which is fundie code for "I hate queers and desperately need a wedge issue", just like "states rights" was Republican code for "I hate blacks" and "law and order" was code for "I still hate blacks."
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