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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:14 PM
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Bush charges Kerry 'dangerous for world peace'
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041004/pl_afp/us_vote_bush&cid=1521&ncid=2043

US President George W. Bush signed legislation extending popular tax cuts in this key up-for-grabs state and charged that Senator John Kerry's foreign policy would be "dangerous for world peace"

Bush noted that his Democratic rival voted against the 1991 war to oust Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s troops from Kuwait even though "under any scrutiny, we passed the global test" for legitimate military action.

"The policies of my opponent are dangerous for world peace. If they were implemented, they would make this world not more peaceful but more dangerous," the president declared at a campaign rally.

With less than one month before the November 2 election, Bush also likened Kerry's medical policy proposals to the failed attempt to overhaul health care that was spearheaded by then first lady Hillary Clinton ten years ago.

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Can you say DESPERATE?!!!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:15 PM
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1. No Georgie
YOU'RE Dangerous for world peace
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:18 PM
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51. With a statement like that,
I don't know whether to say his medication is working...or not.
He is not of our world. He is truly in his own.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:44 AM
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61. An oxymoronic duplicitious world in which the opponent is labeled
with his own doings, messes and failures. GWB must either be the most ingenious or wholly disingeneous politican in our annuals.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:16 PM
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2. AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:18 PM
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3. how can a man who
has started two wars and is planning at least two more accuse somebody else of being a danger to world peace? There is no world peace now because of the chimp.

I really liked the Clinton proposal, not such a huge fan of the Kerry plan because I, personally, would love to see socialized medicine and I don't think Kerry's plan comes anywhere near that. However, it beats the hell out of anything the chimpministration has in store for us.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:41 PM
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22. Really, where is Kerry going to invade?
And with what army?

Kerry couldn't jeopardize world peace if he tried, we HAVE NO FUCKING ARMY ANY MORE!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:19 PM
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4. Bush keeps talking about "spreadin' the peace"
WHAT peace?! Are the coffins not coming to Dover Air Force Base? Am I going to stop reading in the paper or hearing on the radio of the death of yet another promising young man or woman serving in Iraq?

And given that Bush has bent over backwards to to alienate even our long-time allies. he shouldn't be takking about threats to peace. Didn't he figure out what was going on when all those British and Irish people demonstrated against him?

Bush has NO shame.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:19 PM
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5. Pass the bottle over here, George!
You've obviously had too much.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:21 PM
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6. “Look, our strategy is to create chaos, to create a vacuum.”

In 2000, when Prime Minister Ehud Barak, PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat and President Clinton were meeting at Camp David, Perle made news when he warned Barak not to let Vice President Al Gore become involved in the peace summit, for fear it would boost Gore's election prospects. He also told Barak to “walk away” from a peace plan if it left the thorny issue of a divided Jerusalem unresolved. Working as an advisor to candidate Bush, Perle warned Barak he would urge the Texas governor to condemn any peace plan that gave the PLO a foothold in Jerusalem. The Bush campaign quickly distanced itself from Perle's remarks.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/09/05/perle/index.html

Anger at peace talks 'meddling'
Political scandal in US as Bush advisers tell Israelis to be ready to walk out of Camp David negotiations
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,342857,00.html

You’re Invited to the War Party (“Bush at War” book review)
By Georgie Anne Geyer

Ever since his Watergate revelations, which helped evict a president and change the United States for all time, for better or worse Bob Woodward has stood as the major force in a new genre of journalism. He talks, wheedles, and, using government officials’ personal ambitions and dreams of political eternity, implicitly threatens his way into the often closed corridors of power—there, he is a master at getting a certain number of figures who try their best to remain aloof and unknown to tell their stories. The proposition, understood if not explicitly spoken, is that this book, as his former ones, will tell the story—you miss out on leave on this journalistic port, fellow, you miss the whole historic ship!

First of all, Bush at War is really about the decision-making process in the upper levels of the Bush administration—the White House, the State Department, and the Pentagon—from the exact morning of Sept. 11th. It begins with a profoundly worried George Tenet, head of the CIA and, from all of the space he gets in the book, obviously one of Woodward’s best and favored sources. That very morning, Tenet is wondering about when Osama bin Laden, whom he has been desperately tracking, will strike the U.S. Then “it” happens—and from then onward, the book delineates day-by-day, and sometimes hour-by-hour and minute-by-minute—what supposedly went on in meeting after meeting. From all accounts that I know of, Woodward’s interpretations are exactly right; it is the quotes that are so bothersome.

Another time, he says to Woodward, “I’m the commander—see, I don’t need to explain—I do not need to explain why I say things. That’s the interesting thing about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don’t feel like I owe anybody an explanation.”

At still another point after the Afghan war has started, the president says to his staff, “Look, our strategy is to create chaos, to create a vacuum.” And Woodward ends the book with another quote from the president, in which he again reflects the obsessive chaos theory of the neoconservatives surrounding him like sentinels and for whom Iraq has become the sina quo non of political existence: “We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth in defense of our great nation.” Whew.
http://www.amconmag.com/01_13_03/geyer7.html
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:22 PM
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7. This, as Dumbyass is blowing the world to pieces
:nuke:
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:23 PM
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8. from another thread: compare/contrast
More than 180 Former U.S. Ambassadors from Republican and Democratic Administrations Endorse Kerry
10/4/2004 10:38:00 AM

WASHINGTON, Oct. 4 /U.S. Newswire/ -- United by a deep concern about the mounting failures of the Bush administration's foreign policy, more than 180 former United States Ambassadors who have served under Republican and Democratic presidents endorsed John Kerry for president on Monday.
At a news conference at the National Press Club, members of Ambassadors for Kerry-Edwards issued a letter stating, "We believe it is imperative to our national security that we change the leadership of the nation we all love and elect John Kerry and John Edwards." The statement criticized President Bush for needlessly squandering the good will and support of the world following the September 11 attacks and undermining our ability to win the war on terror by eroding our strong international alliances.
(snip)
... in the last three years, the Bush administration has undermined the strong alliances American leaders worked half a century to build."
"Senator Kerry, in whom I am willing to place my trust, has demonstrated that he is courageous, sober, competent, and concerned with fighting the dangers associated with the widening socio-economic gap in this country. I will vote for him enthusiastically," wrote John Eisenhower in an opinion article...
(snip)
Recent developments indicate that the current Republican Party leadership has confused confident leadership with hubris and arrogance." Eisenhower, who served as Ambassador to Belgium is a lifelong Republican and the son of Republican President Dwight Eisenhower.

(more)
<http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=37385 >
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:23 PM
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:41 PM
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23. Exactly, what?
Your statement makes no sense in the context of this thread. Why are you here?

RTP.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:07 PM
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30. YES! Exactly
Our new friend here has posted just that all over the place.

:eyes:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:47 PM
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26. This post has no merit
Neither do the other ones from this "person"
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:22 PM
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35. Well .. it is one more post.
Some think post counts reflect credibility vis a vis, group acceptance.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:24 PM
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10. Is it just me,
or is everything Boosh says about Kerry just projection?
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:47 PM
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25. It is not just you
Practically everything republicans claim about democrats is projection.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:39 PM
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41. nope not just you
the book "Bush On the Couch" points it out too (sorry can't remember author's name right now)
From my own reading, projection is characteristic of personality disorders like psychopathy and narcissism. The book I mentioned doesn't speak of narcissism or psychopathy, but says megalomania fits. I don't know enough about the subject to disect that....

anyway, I agree too that the whole friggin GOP has turned into an example of personality disorder.
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Steelangel Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:24 PM
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11. Bush is a moron!
nuff' said
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:28 PM
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12. Idiot







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Ishoutandscream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:31 PM
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13. Once again, HA HA HA HA HA HA
Kerry is dangerous for world peace? I'm in stiches here!
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:31 PM
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14. Well then, the gloves have finally come off
and JK will pummel the chimp over this one...
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Boo Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:33 PM
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15. Sure, I'll feel much more safe in a world guarded by ...
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 03:35 PM by Boo
an inarticulate monkey...

by the way, does Bush even know where Pawland (Poland) is?

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:34 PM
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16. Don't see Kerry openly inviting missile attacks on the US
pResident Twitchy, on the other hand.....

"Bush has promoted the system while campaigning for re-election.  
"We want to continue to perfect this system, so we say to those tyrants who believe they can blackmail America and the free world: You fire; we're going to shoot it down," he said during a stop at Ridley Park, Pa., on Aug. 17. "

http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/dailystar/41773.php

Bring 'em on....
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:35 PM
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17. "War President" charges Kerry is "dangerous for world peace."
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:36 PM
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18. Hitler: FDR bad for Jews
Who the fuck does Duhbya think he is kidding?

How could Kerry POSSIBLY be worse for world peace, even if he tried?
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:37 PM
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19. WAR IS PEACE
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

david
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:39 PM
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20. Over 1,200 coilition troops have found "peace" in Iraq.
Over 20,000 innocent Iraqi civilians have found "peace" in IraQ. Many, many more have been found in "peaces" in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

'War' is to 'peace' as 'George' is to 'honest.' :puke:
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:41 PM
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21. The irony is making me throw up in my mouth a little.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:44 PM
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24. but bush, didn't you say during the debate that only the US matters? what
do you care about petty "global" concerns?
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:55 PM
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27. Yeah, since when does he care about "world peace?"
I think his head is about to explode. Or implode, or something.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:57 PM
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28. Pardon? WHO is the threat to world peace, Georgie!?
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:05 PM
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29. He is still smarting from the whupping he got from Kerry
He can't get over it and that is true to his character. There is nothing he can say that does not look like sour grapes.

Meanwhile, Kerry is going about speaking to social issues, preparing hhimself for the next debate.

Bush is stewing in his own juice and it is going to hurt him. He cannot let go of it and that says a lot--he is obssessed with it.

A real man does not go on and on trying to "win" a debate he had four days ago.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:10 PM
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31. this would be hee-larious
if it weren't for the thousands dead and maimed because of Dim Son's LIES.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:12 PM
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32. This is coming from the war president???
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:09 PM
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49. Brought to you by the same man who said "Bring 'Em On"
The Vince McMahon of Presidents.
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skordane Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:16 PM
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33. What Was The Idea of Having Colin Powell Lie at the UN About
Passing the Global Test
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:17 PM
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34. Bush thought alot about peace in his "off" hours in the NG
He's a regular philosopher, that guy. Give Bush a few minutes of silence and you can actually see his brain working. And, sure enough, a few moments later his mouth will spill out the words.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:23 PM
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36. Hey, Smirko McCokewhore! Ask April Glaspie what she meant by...
"We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America."

http://www.campusprogram.com/reference/en/wikipedia/a/ap/april_glaspie.html



Sink the BFEE!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:31 PM
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37. wait - he meant dangerous for whirled peas!!
and get it right!;-)
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:34 PM
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40. LOL Good one!!! n/t
:kick:
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:44 PM
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42. as a whirled pea myself, I now feel very worried
my little world/whirled was fine until you had to say that. fooey.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:23 PM
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38. The world can't wait until * goes back to hell.
The most pathetic piece of shit on the planet.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:24 PM
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39. What world peace? Where?
n/t
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:45 PM
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43. Banging. Head. On. Floor. n/t
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:47 PM
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44. But....
Shrub, who said "Bring'em on?, not Kerry!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:00 PM
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45. Saw this earlier at work and all I could think about was how mentally ill
and twisted this moran is.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:21 PM
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46. and REALLY delusional
I think he needs his meds upped again!
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:52 AM
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62. Drink up, the kool aid is good
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:58 PM
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47. That's the funniest thing I've heard in some time!
I really did laugh out loud when I read the headline!

That George. He's got a job doing stand-up after he loses the election. I hope he takes it.

:)
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gadem04 Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:01 PM
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48. Even if you disagree,
the intrigue of it all is a bit upsetting.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:11 PM
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50. FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR.. hides...
FAILURE, FAILURE, FAILURE, FAILURE.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:38 PM
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52. George... You are a very sick man (nt)
I pity you less everytime a soldier or an Iraqi dies.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:46 PM
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53. Muchacho posted this MSNBC poll on GD
It's five questions, and a good one, including Bush's effect on other countries' views of the US and the reinstatement of the draft.

So, as muchacho said...
DU this poll!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6144520/site/newsweek/#survey
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chimpy the poopthrower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:53 PM
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54. I'm confused -- so now Bush accepts the "global test" concept?
Because during the debate, Bush pounced upon this phrase as something utterly ridiculous. And Condoleezza Rice just said on Sunday, "I heard Senator Kerry say that there was some kind of global test that you ought to be able to pass to support pre-emption, and I don't understand what that means." (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/03/rice.bush.kerry/index.html) But now, all of a sudden, Bush is saying "under any scrutiny, we passed the global test" for legitimate military action. Does this mean they were all just playing dumb? (Well, not such a stretch for Bush, I know.)
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:54 PM
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55. Yeah, dangerous to Bush's Idea of "World Peace"...If Kerry is President
...I guess he'll mess up everything that GW has done for the World Peace, huh?

Shit for brains must be hitting the bottle again or they messed up his medication....he is sounding delusional and his statements make no sense...

The only person "dangerous to world peace" has been George W. Bush....

Gawd help us that he isn't our next President for another 4 years....the World won't be able to survive having him shove his version of democracy down their throats and neither will we....

Peace my ass....this "War President" is the worst thing to happen to World Peace since Gengis Khan....

:grr:
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jackieforthedems Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:02 PM
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56. Bush Is Dangerous For World Peace
He means himself.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 09:26 PM
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57. Desperate times for desperate people bring illogical
words from one in need.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:11 AM
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58. amen to that!
:kick:
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Red Fox Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:18 AM
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59. He's right, bush already mentioned terrorism going down! Oh wait...
They got spanked for that, as global terrorism has been going UP ever since bush got in office.

So his policy resulted in a rise in global terrorism, yet JK is the one that is a danger to world peace?
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Bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:30 AM
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60. Nicely Orwellian
Well done
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:37 AM
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63. Yes, we might move towards world peace with Kerry in. That I guess
is dangerous for the Bush$co. Where are they going to make their millions w/o a war to fight......
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:39 AM
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64. which is why Cat Stevens was kept out of the US
He's peaceful.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:53 AM
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65. Consider setting aside the Muslim issue spin for a moment ...
Cat Stevens was purposefully diverted to throw more red meat to *'s radical right-wing religious fringe.

Set aside the "Let's DIS the Muslims" propaganda hoopla for a moment and consider that the Mainstream Media is silent that * rates LOWER than Kerry on Catholic Social Justice Issues.

Check out this report card:
http://www.natcath.com/NCR_Online/archives2/2004d/100104/100104w.php

Only the *Fundy's* = Protestant, Catholic, etc. will be voting for Chimpy. I seriously doubt that anyone who harbors compassion for the myriad of social justice issues would vote for *.

However, we already know that the only issue for the Fundamentalists is to make Abortion illegal. They conveniently discount *all* the other pertinent so called *Christian* social issues behind the curtain!?! (Unjust War and Occupation, Executions, Racism, Unjust Criminal Courts/Laws, indifference to the poor and suffering peoples of the world ... in favor of the wealthy and large worldwide corporations).
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:54 AM
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66. yes, his philanthropic endeavors angered the chimp.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:02 AM
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67. World? What world? We no care of no stinkin' world! We're # 1!
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:02 AM
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68. Well I guess
we should all vote for Bush then since he has provided us with a safe, peaceful world. He's already proven that he can keep us safe from Cat Stevens.
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