Post-Debate Polls Favor Kerry

[leftchick]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/debate_rdp

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CORAL GABLES, Fla. - President Bush (news - web sites) and Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) rushed back to the campaign trail Friday to try to convince voters they had won their debate over foreign policy and to continue the argument over whether going to war in Iraq (news - web sites) had made the nation safer. Three post-debate polls suggested voters who watched the policy-driven confrontation Thursday night were impressed by Kerry, with most of those surveyed saying he did better than Bush.



Kerry's running mate, Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites), said Friday he told Kerry after the debate "I think people saw the next commander in chief," and he criticized Bush for failing to acknowledge problems in Iraq. "You can't fix a problem if you're not willing to admit that mistakes have been made and that you have a problem," he told ABC's "Good Morning America."


Bush, however, "felt great" about his performance Thursday night and believed he had articulated the strategy and resolve with which he is fighting the war on terror, White House communications director Dan Bartlett said. "I think he spoke from the heart, spoke with strength about the necessity for our country to fight the terrorists over there so we don't have to face them here at home," Bartlett told ABC. "He had a good time last night."


Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), the Arizona Republican who informally advised Bush on how to debate his friend and Senate colleague, told reporters in Miami on Friday that the debate was probably Kerry's "brightest moment" in the last six weeks. "He presented himself well, John did," McCain said. "Kerry came out slugging."

[Kierkegaard]

1. Is that the face of a man who 'had a good time' last night?

Doesn't look that way to me.

"...believed he had articulated the strategy..."
I believe he bungled his way through it in the most inarticulate manner possible, avoided giving any details about his Iraq 'strategy' and basically couldn't have done much worse without shitting himself publicly.

[ozymandius]

2. "We're making progress." "It's hard work."

That circular rhetoric is hardly articulation of policy.

[Charles19]

9. Makes me think of Sat Night Live Skits of Bush and his Dad

where he keeps saying "It's hard" (to be president).

[RamboLiberal]

42. Speaking of - wonder if SNL will have a skit this weekend

of the debate.

Their stuff in 2000 was great IMHO. Best were Poppy thinking of taking out Jr during the deer hunt, the Odd Couple co-presidents Gore and Dubya, and the one that was prescient of * hiding under the desk as the world burned - didn't he say something like "this is hard"?

[demokatgurrl]

14. It's the face of a man whose knickers are twisted. n/t

[Politicub]

24. Bush's face looks like a cat's ass in that pic. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

32. When has he ever articulated anything??

[BOSSHOG]

3. Would you want to have a Beer with this guy?

[ILeft]

8. No, but I might share a bag of pretzels with him

For the good of the country, you know.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

4. Bartlett = MAJOR spin effort, and a bad one at that.

[Joe Turner]

48. Indeed It's Like

Who are you going to believe? Me, a pathetic Bush Spin Artist, or your lying eyes?

[Fovea]

5. Gosh Mr. Pretzeldent

You got a purty mouth...

[Octafish]

12. No Lips.

Tradition!

Tra-Di-TION!

[GOPBasher]

6. I'm glad that's how people see it.

Now I just hope the media will echo that.

[lancdem]

7. I also really like McCain's comments

[Tripmann]

10. Excellent!

Edwards: "You can't fix a problem if you're not willing to admit that mistakes have been made and that you have a problem"

And Bush, "felt great" about his performance

I can live with Bush not accepting problems if it also means he can't see the problems with his debating skills and fix them before the next debate.

Don't let the whitehouse door hit you on the way out bunnypants!

Tripmann

[David__77]

11. "Spoke from the heart" = Miserable Failure.

It's a pink gloss on their shitty candidate. History will rank Bush just above Nixon. And really, he could end up worse off.

[w4rma]

13. Worse than President Herbert Hoover who caused the Great Depression. (nt)

[demokatgurrl]

15. And that would be an insult to Nixon. n/t

[Kierkegaard]

29. He SHOULD end up worse. What Nixon did pales in comparison

to the Commander Bunnypants Brigade. This is the closest this country has ever come to undergoing a paradigm shift in democratic principles based on the actions of a corrupt administration. Another term could blow big holes in our freedoms and lurch us forward into totalitarianism under the thin veil of 'public safety.'

[Amigust]

36. No heart to speak from

eom

[Sparky McGruff]

45. History will rate W far far below nixon...

Nixon at least had several positive accomplishments to show for his tenure. Clean air act, negotiations with China, etc.

W has no bright spots. "Like polishing a turd". No bright spots under the rough turd exterior, just more turd.

[Green Lantern]

46. You are

doing a disservice to Nixon and badly over-rating Bush. Nixon remains next to last. Reagan is last but Bush never climbed onto the charts.

[JimGinPA]

16. If The Responders To These Polls Were Honest...

The margin of Kerry's victory in this debate would be overwhelming. There's no way any thinking person could actually believe Dubya did even an adequate job last night, regardless of their bias.

[Whoa_Nelly]

18. FAUX NEWS ALERT! Go here and vote

Faux News has Bush with lead in the debate poll.
Bush 41%
Kerry 37%

Go to link below, scroll down, right frame, and vote!

http://www.foxnews.com/

[ismnotwasm]

25. 40%-40% now Faux

If this poll isn't a clear demonstation of right wing bias to anyone with half a brain, I don't know what will convince folks.

[Catfight]

31. People who watch Fox become retarded. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

33. Become or were?

[Whoa_Nelly]

44. However, FAUX is the "news" source

for so many uninformed, poltically passive Americans. That's why I posted the link to the poll site. By the more informed and politically active Americans, such as those of us here on DU, that poll could be affected and changed to show the real response from across the US.

[0007]

17. junior glowed like a red neon whore house light at times during the debate

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((gong)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Wrong!


Please take a seat or ask John Kerry for the correct answer

[Amigust]

22. And Poland later said they had been lied to

eom

[leQ]

19. right now the numbers (online) are:

cnn: 72-21 kerry 456,015
msnbc: 62-38 kerry 1,523,488
abc: 45-36 kerry (tie 17) 531 (RV)
fox: 42-36 bush (tie 16 didn't watch 5)
dsmreg: 82.3-17.7 kerry 718

on edit: typo

[54anickel]

23. Sheesh, how long they gonna run the polls? Till Bush shows up ahead?

The debate was last night. Oh, let's wait and see if we can get enough media spin to get folks to see that Shrub won. :eyes:

Funny, wouldn't you stop and question faux results since they seem to be the odd man out.

[choie]

20. AP is such an unfunny joke.

(The link now leads to a different story, btw. I'm reacting to the original poll article.)

Notice how not once in an article about poll results did it mention the actual numbers? WTF? Wouldn't that be a natural addition? Whatsamatter, AP, don't want the world to see just how BADLY Bush got his ass handed to him?

God, how I hate the media.

[Mountainman]

21. fight the terrorists over there so we don't have to face them here

That is all they have left and it's a lie. They have to keep connecting the war in Iraq with 9/11 to hold on to the idiot, freeper, kool aid drinking base.

The wealthy don't give a shit about terrorism because they can buy their way out of anything so they support Bush because they want another tax break. Bush reassured them last night that tax breaks are more important than homeland security.

But to keep Joe six pack and his wife in line they use that "fight them over there" bull shit.

I hear them repeat that over and over on C-span in the morning.

If Kerry can convincingly put that idea to bed he may pick up more repub votes. He got Bush to admit that Saddam was not responcible for 9/11. That's a start.

[yardwork]

38. That's such a selfish and piggish thing to say

Even if it were true, what kind of message does that send to the rest of the world? "We're going to kill and maim your people, destroy your infrastructure, pollute your soil, water, and air, and leave behind radiactive uranium and tons of land mines - just in case somebody tries to attack us again one day."

Imagine how we would feel if China decided to invade and trash the United States just on the off-chance that Japan might bother them again?

It's ludicrous. It's hateful.

[Kilroy003]

41. Amen!

Now, try explaining that to a Republican. First you have to try to convince him that Iraqis are actually real people. That't the hard part.

[palmettoparrots]

26. The FAUX poll is now even at 40%

[Tippy]

27. Tied in precentages but Kerry ahead in real time numbers...n/t

[jamesinca]

28. Kerry is up by 650 votes

It gives a tie in percentage, but put Kerry ahead by more than the 2000 election margin.

[yardwork]

40. Let the freepers spend all day voting and clearing cookies

It's a waste of time now. The word is out. chimp lost.

[newyawker99]

47. Hi palmettoparrots!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Catfight]

30. Bush is actually looking worse every minute today...he's STILL

losing now that we get to ruminate how poorly he behaved. Goddammit, POLAND POLAND POLAND! Bush interrupted a lot too, he was really rude, the do as I say not as I do rules.

[Javaman]

34. The bush fantasy world...

I did great at the debate!

There is freedom in Iraq!

My daughters love me!

dick chaney is not the real president!

The cubs won the world series last year!

[Amigust]

35. Bushmaster is such a megalomaniac

he can't tolerate criticism (that's obvious - watch the body language in the debate and his police state tactics wherever he goes), so I say to Kerry, bring it on.

Kerry made him look small and stupid.

Will Bushmaster go two more rounds?

[Amigust]

37. PBS version stage lighting favored Bush

Anyone besides me notice that, at least in the early going, Bush was brightly lit and TV colors were good, but Kerry was less brightly lit and TV colors were shitty? I can't believe that was accidental.

[Tight_rope]

39. This is just the beginning of the ASS KICKING that Bush will get!

[truthisfreedom]

43. what a bitch. look at that sourpuss.

[saracat]

49. Bush can't pronounce articulate !