Goss confirmed 77-17

[UrbScotty]

No link yet.

[Mace]

1. I thought he wasn't qualified

He said it himself :shrug:

[Tempest]

2. Short lived

One of Kerry's first acts as president will be to fire this worthless piece of cow dung.

[SoCalDem]

3. I guess it's comforting to know that we have 17 decent senators..

:)

[mom cat]

4. I wonder who the 17 brave souls are.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

5. Zell wasn't one of them.

[JohnKleeb]

8. Lautenburg and Rockefeller are two

[genius]

55. What about Kerry and Edwards?

[OneBlueSky]

6. sometimes I just don't understand the Democratic Party . . .

and our so-called leaders . . . only 17 negative votes? . . . for someone who has called himself unqualified? . . . if only for appearances (i.e. appearing to be the opposition), they should have fought this one . . . it boggles the mind . . .

[Changenow]

10. It is so easy to become cynical.

In so many ways there is really no difference between the parties.

Certainly in the area of courage of ones' convictions.

[rawstory]

7. Here's a link

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/orl-bk-goss092204,0,2735356.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

(registration-restricted) -- use http://bugmenot.com

[cal04]

9. from the NY Times

Mr. Rockefeller, acknowledging that Mr. Goss had pledged in his confirmation hearing to set partisanship aside as director, said in today's debate: "I must vote on his record. I cannot vote on his promise."But Mr. Rockefeller added, "I sincerely hope Porter Goss will prove my vote wrong."

Another Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Ron Wyden of Oregon, made it clear he was opposing the nominee with some reluctance. "Porter Goss is a good man and a good Congressman," Senator Wyden said. Mr. Wyden said he could give Mr. Goss the benefit of the doubt on his pledge to be nonpartisan but did not think Mr. Goss would push for change. His fellow Floridians, Senators Bob Graham and Bill Nelson, were among the Democrats who expressed respect and affection for Mr. Goss.

Other Democrats who voted for Mr. Goss included Tom Daschle of South Dakota, the minority leader; Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware; Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut; Russell Feingold of Wisconsin; Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, both of California; and Charles E. Schumer of New York.

Besides Mr. Rockefeller and Mr. Wyden, Democrats who opposed the nominee included Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, Carl Levin of Michigan, Tom Harkin of Iowa, Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, Hillary Clinton of New York and Frank R. Lautenberg and Jon S. Corzine, both of New Jersey.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/22/politics/23GOSS.html?ex=1096516800&en=04ec0eb306fd6ae0&ei=5006&partner=ALTAVISTA1

[JohnnyCougar]

34. WTF?!?!

Come on Feingold, for christ's sake...I thought I had more faith in him.

[Nancy Waterman]

41. I liked what Rockefeller said

When will these spineless Dems learn you can only know what a Pub will do by what he has done, never by what he promises at a confimation hearing. How stupid can they be? Look at Ashcroft!!! These guys always promise anything when they are being confirmed.

[Wind Dancer]

11. I am so disgusted with the

democrats that voted in favor, we have such a spineless group of reps that need to be replaced, they do not represent us.

[Uzybone]

12. Not that I thought Dems should fight this one tooth and nail

but the yes and no votes reveal the usual suspect.


Yes(pink tutus): Daschle, Joementum, Biden, Feingold (I voted for Ashcroft), Feinstein

No(have some fight in em): Teddy, Harkin, Hilary, Levin, Lautenberg and Corzine

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. Is Barbara Boxer a 'pink tutu?'

:shrug:

[Uzybone]

17. Notice I didnt put Boxers name in my list

n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

25. Yet she voted the same way

[Uzybone]

26. where did it say I was basing "pink tutu" on this vote alone?

dont put words in my mouth.

[leesa]

43. Absolutely! She has been a huge disappointment.

She is a big AIPAC beneficiary and will do anything for Israel apparently. She needs to go and Feinstein with her. To vote for Goss is to vote for repression, there is no other excuse for it.

[JohnKleeb]

16. Feingold is an odd one actually

He votes to confirm adminstration officials because he believes a president should have leeway on that, Kerry and Edwards I do know both voted against Ashcroft and confirming Gale Norton, the secretary of polluting I mean interior :D.

[Zynx]

20. Feingold voted against the war and the Patriotic Act.

You have a lot of nerve calling him a pink tutu Democrat.

[Uzybone]

21. sorry anyone who voted for Ashcroft

has serious judgment problems. That shit about "oh its the presidents prerogative so therefore I must confirm" is rubbish. If Bush nominated Satan would he also vote to confirm him?


And the patriot act and IWR were going to pass, with or without his vote. When he actually could have made a difference (ashcroft)he punked out.

[Politicub]

39. Bless Senators Kennedy and Clinton!

They have the spine that so many of the other dems sorely lack.

Just imagine the possibilities if we were unified for progressive change.

[glitch]

13. Here are the brave nays

NAYs ---17
Bingaman (D-NM)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

And then there are the Not Voting - 6
Akaka (D-HI)
Edwards (D-NC)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kerry (D-MA)
Santorum (R-PA)
Specter (R-PA)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=2&vote=00187

[Larkspur]

14. Why didn't Kerry and Edwards vote on this?

:shrug:

[Dickie Flatt]

18. Not worth interrupting the campaign when they wont make

a difference.

[Uzybone]

19. to insulate themselves

from the GOP/Media spin that would come down saying they were obstructionist towards our intelligence in a time of war. Yeah its BS, but thats all we would have heard.

[leesa]

44. ALL the rest MUST go!

[0007]

22. I think we all knew in front that Goss was gonna be nominated

Putting all our eggs in one basket is not good. That was the game plan.

[Zorra]

23. This is the 2nd worst thing that could happen to the US. Bu$h getting re-

selected is #1.

Now that Goss has been confirmed, God help us if Bu$h gets 4 more years.

We will have our own Gestapo/KGB arresting dissenters and other innocent people.

America is in deep shit. We absolutely must make sure that John Kerry is elected.

Goss is a very dangerous person and an enemy of liberty in America.

[G_j]

31. you got it

but hey, securing a Gestapo police state is just one those compromises we all have to make for thats "politics". :argh:

[5thGenDemocrat]

24. I'm so glad we have the Senators we do in Michigan

Levin and Stabenow both voted "no" on the IWR and now both voted "no" on Goss. No pink tutus here in the Wolverine State.
John
Too bad more Dems don't have their courage.

[teryang]

27. Goss is an idiot

It may actually be better this way. He has no experience at all managing a large institution and he has proven that his knowledge of intelligence and world affairs is nil. Thus, the effectiveness of a belligerent foreign policy will be blunted.

[mistertrickster]

28. President Kerry will fire his sorry ass, no problem there.

[Eloriel]

29. Wanna bet?

Within what period of time?

I don't think he will.

[The Chronicler]

30. I don't think a President Kerry would either

not right off the bat anyway. It would been seen as too partisan and political.

[G_j]

32. I wouldn't count on it either

and if Bush gets four more years....

Someone remond me again why we are supposed to devote our time energy and money to get Dems elected?

[Generator]

37. Well he better

As someone said I'm Kerry all the freaking way until January 21,2005-then I'm up his ass.

We need a new Democratic party with balls and mettle. I don't want this Democratic party anymore, it leads to fascism. I think we've all learned that. Give these ratfuckers an inch and they take your country.

[2Design]

38. I agree with you - I continue to see people like Daschle vote with

rethugs and the others

this is how we got in trouble in iraq - they voted for these idots and continue to give our country away to evil doers...

we need more dean and more dean candidates....we need someone with mettle and chutzpah.

these guys continue to roll over and do the rethug bidding....

WTF

[robbedvoter]

33. Except for the 10 years term? And not voting on that?

[Sugarbleus]

35. I was shocked they voted for Goss!!

After listening to all the hearings and learning of this dude's background in the senate/congress. His ramblings and rude remarks, his temper, his partisanship et al. I thought, are you guys kidding me? You can't allow this jackass become head of CIA or anything else.

If Bush got elected...Goss would do HIS bidding. If Kerry is elected Goss could NOT be trusted to do the right thing. It's just too big of a risk.

Unfreakingbelievable!!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

36. That about sums her up.

[davsand]

40. Well, I can draw breath-Durbin voted no.

I was sucking air for a second... I should have known better. DAMN, he does make me proud. When we get Obama elected in November there will be another Dem in that Senate that I trust--Thankfully!

If any of the no votes were your Senator you need to send an email of support. I certainly intend to.

Laura

On edit, My thank you to Sen Durbin:

Sen Durbin,

I wanted to thank you for your no vote on the Goss confirmation today. I feel he is ill suited to the job and that you (and the 16 other Dems) deserve a huge thank you from the American public. I always count on you to stand up for us all, and you have not disappointed me...

Best of luck to you--and you have no idea how proud I am that you are my Senator! When we get Obama elected this November Illinois Dems will have even more to be proud of!


Laura XXXXXX
PO Box XXXX
XXXXXX, IL 618XX

(Another of those "left wing" Champaign County Dems!)

[leesa]

42. 77 of these people are traitors to our country.

[Seabiscuit]

45. Why not just lynch the 77 and be done with it?

:evilgrin:

[peace4all]

49. tar and feathers and a one way ticket home would suffice.. n/t

[Pallas180]

46. Did any of you call the Senators on the free number I posted?

on this thread?? all yesterday and today?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2379235&mesg_id=2379235


Cheezus. There's 50,000 of us. Do ya think it would have made a difference if they had heard just from the number of people on this thread?

DU'er s post the info for all of us....are you activists or whiners?


Thanks to all of you who called (about 4 of you) to change the senators minds.


Feh on the rest of you who want to bellyache to the chorus, but dont
lift a dialing finger to change matters.

[Kool Kitty]

48. I called my reps,

Corzine and Lautenberg. I didn't use the free number, though-I didn't see it. I just called their regular numbers. I love my reps. :loveya:

[Pallas180]

51. Thanks Kool Kitty - If they dont hear from us they think we dont

care and are not watching.

Thanks again.

So few of us call or email....and it would make such a difference if

most of us here did.

I really believe that.

[Kool Kitty]

53. I agree. I always call the next day, just

to thank them for their vote. I think it's important (and courteous), too.

[WatchWhatISay]

47. I'm proud of the seventeen who chose not to go along to get along

If Kerry wins the election can he reappoint someone else to replace Goss?

[Xenus Sister]

50. I wrote Durbin...yay!

So, maybe he was going to vote no anyway, but I feel better that I wrote him and expressed my feelings.

Now I'll write him a thank you note.

Still, we are so fucked. If Bush wins again, we're fucked. If Kerry wins and keeps Goss, we're fucked. I mean we as a country, and we as DU'ers. If Bush wins, I'll stop posting anything political anywhere. I'm already paranoid. Shit.

I won't feel good about a Kerry win until and unless he throws Goss out on his America-hating, not-wanting-to-investigate-Plame, against-the-9/11-Commission ass.

[Pallas180]

52. Durbin is just so tops, so great. He really cares..should be

a Vice President one day. He has passion and decency.

[CityDem]

54. Any Dem in contested race in 2004 voted no

Why did progressive senators like Boxer, Murray and Feingold vote for Goss? They could not afford to vote against Goss and have their opponent beat them over the head with this vote if a terrorist act occurs between now and nov 2nd. They are surely hoping for a Kerry victory which will remove Goss from the CIA. If Bush wins, they have bigger things to worry about.