Kerry drops ball with Packers fans - ugh!

[CookieD]

Here is a story several weeks old. It is anti-Kerry so, naturally, they are running it in TOMORROW'S Washington Post! (Sheesh.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21672-2004Sep14.html?nav=headlines

Campaign Journal
Kerry Drops Ball With Packers Fans

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 15, 2004; Page A09

MILWAUKEE, Sept. 14 -- Forget soccer moms and NASCAR dads. The most important demographic in these parts transcends gender and geography -- it's Green Bay Packers fans.

Both candidates are targeting them with the ferocity of a Brett Favre bullet, but only John F. Kerry has fumbled the name of the hallowed grounds on which the Packers play, the frozen tundra of Curly Lambeau Field.

At a campaign event last month, the Democratic presidential nominee called it Lambert Field -- a slip of the tongue carried on television, in papers throughout the state and on ESPN's Web site.

That's akin to call the Yankees the Yankers or the Chicago Bulls the Bells. This is a place where Packers jackets often outnumber sports coats in church and thousands of fans wear a big chunk of yellow foam cheese atop their head with the pride of a new parent. President Bush's warning to terrorists is apropos to the passions of Packers fans -- you are either with 'em or against 'em.

[David Dunham]

1. The wife of the writer of this piece of sh-t works for Tom Delay

Please write an e-mail letter to the editor of the Washington Post complaining about this bullshit article.

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Are you serious???

A DeLay staffer?

The piece is so slanted and biased! What a jerk!! :mad:

[David Dunham]

8. The reporter's wife is in fact a Delay staffer.

[CookieD]

10. Former staffer - I just found it on Google!

Got this from a blog. Read the second paragraph. These people are OPENLY biased!!!

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/001913.html

Wednesday :: May 26, 2004
Post Reporters Eat White House Spin On Kerry Convention Stories
In a sign that the media still hasn’t overcome its appetite for White House spin, the Washington Post team of Jim VandeHei and Dan Balz ran a story today on Kerry’s challenge in delaying accepting the nomination to level the playing field against Bush. The Post reporters have apparently adopted the White House-RNC meme that doing this will cost Kerry a lot in the PR battle. How many voters really give a rat’s ass when Kerry accepts the nomination? And why exactly did Mr. VandeHei and Mr. Balz swallow this line of Ed Gillespie crap without asking why Mr. Bush isn’t just as craven by delaying the GOP convention to exploit 9/11 and maximize his primary fundraising?

Worse yet, the Post headlined this RNC garbage while it buried Kerry’s message of the day on his energy policy and attacks against Bush on gas prices and Iraq. Maybe Mr. VandeHei is getting pointers from his wife, who used to work for Tom DeLay. Maybe its because the White House has got the big stick out again, blaming the media for all of the bad news.

[Hello_Kitty]

17. How about timing the 'handover' of Iraq so he could campaign w/it? n/t

[buff2]

2. Oh yeah.......

but it's alright for that blundering blathering idiot to phuck up every other word or name and nothing's ever said....people just go on about their business like it's not unusual for a President of the United States to talk like a first grader,but let a democrat phuck up one time and it's a major story. Khrist,I wish I could wake up from this nightmare or get the hell out of the twilight zone....

[xray s]

4. If...

If we were not at war,
we had affordable health insurance,
we had good jobs,
we were properly defending America from another terrorist attack...

People could sit around and jerk off to news stories like this one. Like they did in 2000.

But that was then, and this is now.

People are dying in Iraq. damn the WP. damn it straight to hell.

[kidrocks]

5. Perry?

Who's Perry?

[CookieD]

11. Governor Rick Perry of Texas

Tom DeLay got him to call a special session of the Texas legislature for the sole purpose of redistricting. It resulted in several additional GOP seats in the U.S. House of Reps.

I hate them both. :-(

[jpgray]

6. Ah, but Bush can say 'Abu Garum' and no one bats an eye?

This is ridiculous--one syllable now means Kerry is doomed?

[PROGRESSIVE1]

7. Read the NY Times. They have been kinder to us....

and Hard as a Rock on Bushie as of late.

:kick:

[leesa]

9. I'm from Wisconsin and from Green Bay (for a while). Fuck them then!

Wisconsonites are , at heart, progressives. They have been taken over by the KKKarl Rove anti-christians of the GOP. They can recover form this assault of ignorance.

[jdj]

12. WTF ever happened to who, what, when, where, and how or why

or whatever???

I stopped caring halfway through the first sentence.

[Carolab]

13. For Gawd's sake

If these people value their sports field more than their government, they really are idiots. I wouldn't care if Kerry came here and mispronounced the name of the town--why should he be expected to know how to pronounce these things?

[A_Possum]

14. *gasp* Oh how important!

Iraq is burning.

Lambert schmambert.

[sofa king]

15. This is all they've got?

Seriously. They have to pick a single gaffe from two weeks ago in order to smear John Kerry? That's desperate, man.

John Kerry must be running a picture perfect campaign, delivering every line, sticking the message every time.

In other news, what has our President been saying lately?

"I doubt that you can win it" --the War President commenting on the War on Terror.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/02/blooper/

and

"We've got an issue in America. Too many good docs are getting out of business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country."

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/september/0907_bush_poplar_bluff.shtml

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. Kerry makes a single mistake and it's newsworthy?...

And how many mistakes does FratBoy make every single day?

[Berserker]

18. Packers fans -- you are either with 'em or against 'em.

I'm against'em the most self centered arrogant fans in the planet. Lambert field sounds about right. Why should Kerry know this are you supposed to be born with this knowledge like the packer fans think you should be. Most people don't think favray is the second coming of Christ.
GO VIKINGS

[wellst0nev0ter]

22. HEAR HEAR!

[Eurotrash]

60. I LOVE your comic-book guy graphic!

:yourock:

[RivetJoint]

24. When the Vi-Queens

win their 3rd Super Bowl (or FIRST for that matter) you can talk trash. Until then, STFU.

[JackDragna]

25. Oh, spare me..

..Vikings fans are self-centered lunatics. They are in no way any better, and for the most part, are much worse than the typical football fans, with their Cub-like fantasies about how every year they have the best team in the league and they just keep getting screwed by refs. Before you flame me for flaming you, bear in mind I lived in Minneapolis for five years. :)

[ScreamingMeemie]

30. And don't forget...they're (Vikings fans) sore loser wannabes!

:hi:

[kysrsoze]

42. Uhhh...Cubs fans are eternally optimistic and ever-supportive

thank you - we're still in the running this year too. Football sucks anyway.

[Zomby Woof]

19. ehhh

It's only the Packers. :shrug:

[stopbush]

20. And it's only football, fer jeebus sake!

[oasis]

21. Jim VandeHei of the Washington Post. Another kool-aid drinking Rovebot.

:beer:

[Career Prole]

23. Is calling the Yankees the Yankers a bad thing?

Should I worry too since I call them the Yankmes? :scared:

[JerseygirlCT]

26. I've heard them called much worse -m

and deservedly so!

[trogdor]

43. I call 'em the Yankmees

[mac56]

27. If this is the worst Kerry gaffe they can come up with -

they are truly pathetic.

[htuttle]

28. This is ridiculous. Wisconsin has some of the hardest to pronounce names

...of any state. We got Native American city names, French city names, German city names, you name it.

People from out of state mispronounce Wisconsin location names all the time. We expect it, and I don't know anyone here who considers it a big slight when an out of stater screws up a pronounciation. Half the time the pronounciation we use is wrong anyway (even seemingly simple ones like 'New Berlin'. We say it with the emphasis on 'Ber', not 'lin' since WWII).

I'm sure Faux and friends and their campaign-affliated stringers at the Post, such as Jim VandeHei (hey, how the HELL do you pronounce 'VendeHei'?) can find a few Bush supporters to interview and seem 'outraged', but I don't really think anyone else here cares about how he says 'Lambeau Field'.

Everyone I know cares more about whether they can afford to pay their doctor.

[chiburb]

29. Bullshit:

"That's akin to call the Yankees the Yankers or the Chicago Bulls the Bells."

He didn't flub the name of the team, it was the stadium where they play. If he had said Green Bay Bears, THAT would be serious (to cheeseheads). The equivalent SHOULD be "Yanker Stadium" or "Union Center"...

[Surf Cowboy]

31. Stupid. Just fucking stupid. Almost as bad as throwing a one-hopper

first pitch.

What idiots are running his campaign? Why do they keep letting this shit happen?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

38. Not nearly as...

...idiotic as your post.

Who's running YOUR campaign?

[Surf Cowboy]

44. Umm, excuse me, but I'd be willing to bet that better than 60% of this

country knows not only how to pronounce Lambeau Field, but how to spell it, where it is, and why it's important.

They also like to see a guy throw a ball 60 feet, 6 inches without it bouncing twice.

There is no excuse for them not preparing him and making sure that he knew the one thing he needed to know to make friends in Green Bay. If he really wanted to make a strong impression, he also needed to know: 1) Brett Favre is pronounced "farv"; 2) It's Lam-bow, not Lambert, and Cheese, Brats, and Beer are Fan-tastic.

That's it. Nothing major. Just know your audience. It's shit like this that gets plastered all over the news, especially when us Dems light up W like we do when he says something stupid. Only with Kerry, since it happens less often--it's actually news!

[bobbyboucher]

47. Quit your whining.

Just write in Bret Favre or A-Rod on your persidential ballot and quit bitchin' about it. Real smart.

[Surf Cowboy]

52. You aren't mocking my intelligence with misspelled words are you?

Please tell me the irony didn't kill you when the piano fell on your head.

[bobbyboucher]

55. Just keep carrying that water,

waterboy.

[rinsd]

57. While the poster could leave the venom at the side...he has a point.

Quick name the two memes constantly repeated by the RW.

A) That Kerry is a flip-flopper

B) That he is out of touch

Now remember the story about Bush Sr. where he couldn't understand the grocery checkout or even more devsatating when he checked his watch during the debates. This worked right ino the hands of the Clinton campaign's "out of touch" meme. Taken individually and when its still early it doesn't mean to much. But these little hit pieces are building around the meme B.

I know its stupid for elections to hinge on these things but that is the reality. You have voters who vote based on who has better hair, is more atractive, what party they belong to, single issues, impact on their life, the "have a beer" test, etc etc.

Hopefully Kerry will not throw in the WS or if he does he will hit the mitt.

[JimmyJazz]

32. here: this should make you feel better

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/

[Nancy Waterman]

33. I think Kerry should make a joke of it

Bring it up and say, "'It is a good thing I am not trying out for the team. I think I will just stick to running for President."

A little self-deprecating humor here would deflate the whole issue.

[truthisfreedom]

34. absolutely. and he gets milage out of their stupid ploy to embarrass him

that way... make an apology for the mistake and show his support and appreciation for the team and fans.

[Cocoa]

35. Wisconsinites will find this funny

contrary to myth, they're not idiots, and this will not be important to them, though of course many right-wing columnists, and many whores on TV will make this into a big issue.

They will jump on this as one of their biggest opportunities to "Gore" Kerry.

[Berserker]

36. Kerry don't fit the image

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1. I am in love with
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___Ya hey dere
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___Dey should take da whole bunch a dem Madison liberals and just line em up and shoot em

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___10 ___ 20 if I take off my shoes
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[Cocoa]

40. wiping tears away...

thanks for the huge laugh, that's some funny stuff. :-)

[Kierkegaard]

37. I'M a Wisconsinite

and I don't give a shit if Kerry knows the name of our football stadium or not.

I DO give a shit whether the President knows which end to wipe, and our current one DOES NOT! Kerry can stop by after the election and we can teach him to pronounce Lambeau. Until then, I'd rather he stay out there and keep kicking chimp's ass until Nov 2...

[PeaceProgProsp]

39. Campaign Journal: Post Picks up Propganda Ball and Runs with It

By PeaceProgProsp
DU Post Staff Writer

Wednesday, September 15, 2004; Page A09

INTERNET, Sept. 14 -- Forget Freerepublic and The Washington Times. The most important news in these parts transcends truth and accuracy -- it's propganda.

All the media is targeting the truth with the ferocity of a bullet; they want to kill it. But the Post has truly pulled the trigger and put it to death.

After a Kerry campaign event last month, the Democratic presidential nominee said something most people missed -- a slip of the tongue so rare, mild and of limited regional interest, it has taken a massive media effort to keep it alilve and spread it nation-wide.

That's akin to blowing Whitewater WAAYYYY out of proportioin or misrepresenting the Willie Horton furlough. The media is a place where lies often outnumber the truth and thousands of readers and viewers are left scratching their heads wondering why money is so important that reporters and editors are risking their immortal souls to help President Bush win reelection. Oh, and don't forget "terrorism": the media must alwasy insert the word into a story, even if it's about football. Yep, with the media, either you are either with the Republicans overtly or you're with 'em covertly.

[digno dave]

41. Say what you want, this was one absent-minded comment by Kerry

I can only imagine how it is playing in Wisconsin.

[Surf Cowboy]

45. Exactly. Stupid. A lack of preparation. If also a lack of foresight,

someone should get canned. About half the campaign, actually.

[lynx rufus]

49. I like him even more - means his head is not full of silly BS

[bobbyboucher]

50. Let's give this inconsequential horseshit some more play

why don't we. After you vote absentee for Bret Favre, or was it Roger Clemens, why don't you write an email LTTE and blast it to every newspaper in Wisonsin.

Goddamn, what a bunch of hysteria. When you see a worm wiggling on a hook, do you bite it and run away?

[Surf Cowboy]

53. Just because YOU don't think it matters doesn't mean

that actual people won't. Get this: most people who vote don't visit political chatrooms!!! Most think that Iraq had something to do with 9/11. Most are not like you and me. We know what's up and they don't. We see the gaffe as nothing big, because we are all concerned with healthcare, Iraq, and budget deficits. They are all watching "The Apprentice," "Trading Spouses," and "The Simple Life."

Whether you like it or not, Kerry making a gaffe like this (that could have easily been avoided with only 90 second of prep) is going to get play. Same kinda stuff as "man hit in groin by football" on America's Funniest Videos. You may not like it, but it's reality. If you combined all the audiences for all the political talk shows on all the networks, you still wouldn't come close to the number of people watching any of the above shows I've mentioned.

Incidentally, none of those shows, despite their high ratings, have the name recognition and consistent viewer base that Monday Night Football has.

[bobbyboucher]

56. Just becasue you THINK it matters doesn't mean it does,

mensa. Just keep carrying that water, boy.

[bobbyboucher]

46. Who gives a rat's ass.

If they are stupid enough to let that affect their vote, too bad for them. I'd rather he didn't know it was Lambeau and stuck to gettin us out of this mess.

Won't mean shit.

[Rose Siding]

48. Any headline yet that the US pres said "War *ON* Independence"...

rather than "War Of Independence", in his speech to the Guard yesterday?

[Romulus]

51. big deal

thanks for bringing this to our attention.

In the end, I don't think anyone will care that Kerry misstated the name of some stadium that 99% of the country doesn't know.

[fishnfla]

54. I'm a huge Packer fan, first i've heard of this

All my buddies know my political bent, they have not said word one about it. Even my freeper mom didnt stick it in my face.

The season has started, noone in that stadium gives a rats fuck for this non-issue now UNLESS the GOP keeps playing political games about it, then there will be a backlash....

[AgadorSparticus]

58. c'mooooooooooon, packer fans, please, please be mad at kerry.

we need your help because we don't have anything to talk about in our 4 yrs in office. all we did was cheat, lie and steal and well, that just took up all our time. so, ah, yea...go packers.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

59. So is Bush French or what? Sounds like a f'ing frog name to me.

Fuckin' French wuss Bush. It's not Kerry's fault the stupid field has a French name. <freeper imitation off>

[chromotone]

61. All of this for that???

If quizzed, I'll bet Kerry knows the names of world leaders selected at random. And he's not even President yet!

GOVERNOR BUSH: The new Pakistani General, he's just been elected -- not elected, this guy took over office. It appears this guy is going to bring stability to the country and I think that's good news for the subcontinent.
JOURNALIST: And you can name him?
GOVERNOR BUSH: General... I can name the general.
JOURNALIST: And it's...?
GOVERNOR BUSH: "General."
JOURNALIST: And the Prime Minister of India?
GOVERNOR BUSH: The new Prime Minister of India is... No.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/presidents/george-w-bush/