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BlueNomad Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:45 PM
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MSNBC announces secretary being flown to CBS in NYC
Michael Dobbs of the Washington Post just told Lester Holt on MSNBC that CBS has flown the 86 year old secretary to New York....
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:47 PM
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1. You would think......
that the forged niger documents would have gotten at least 1/2 the scrutiny that the CBS memos are getting...after all, we went to war based on these lies and over 1000 soldiers are now dead....shame on the media, blood on their stinking hands!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:12 PM
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9. No kidding. It's the "Lord of the fLies" all over again.
These corrupt reichbots swarm around the Bushturds just like dung beetles and flies feast on a pile of shit. They LIE to send others to war and LIE to escape serving in war and LIE to defend their LIES.

LIES are their liturgy and falsehoods their sacraments. They venerate the venal and worship the coprolytic. They embrace their own corruption like Baron Harkonnen's progeny.

These people are human sewage.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:14 PM
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10. Yeah, but those were just phony diplomatic
documents that helped the WH lay the case for war. Perspective, please!
:)
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:42 PM
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14. Never was a truer thing spoken.
It's embarrasing.

National security doesn't matter, but national idolatry is sacrosanct.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:28 PM
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22. You make too much sense....
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Safi Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:47 PM
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2. NOOOO
NOT ON A PLANE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:56 PM
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7. Bwahahahahahahahah- or a heart attack en route!!!
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:48 PM
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3. Has the plane already landed...
or were they giving the * administration a heads up to alert the Patriot Missile units?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:54 PM
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6. I was under the impression that she was already there and talking to
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 04:56 PM by Pirate Smile
them. I heard earlier in the day that she was flown to NY and CBS was interviewing her.

I'm hoping maybe they are trying to get confirmation of some of the things she has is telling them.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:22 PM
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19. I saw what I believe was a teaser...
and Dan Rather was interviewing her.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:48 PM
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4. She said the memos were fakes but the content was accurate
:shrug:
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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:57 PM
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16. If that's true...
That HAS to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard... (ONE of them).
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:39 PM
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24. so where are the real memos?
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:44 PM
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25. The quote I heard was "I did not type the memos - "
but the content is accurate. That is significantly different than calling them "fakes".
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:52 PM
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5. wonder is she'll report she was contacted by the Bush admin
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:04 PM
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8. any link?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:17 PM
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11. heard on CBS radio news Pres. of CBS announced they stand by story &
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 05:23 PM by Algorem
are redoubling their efforts at explaining and proving.Can't find a link,think they're saving for evening news(in 8 minutes),heard it at 6.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:24 PM
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20. He was on the tail end of their news program tonight near 7pm
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BlueNomad Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:29 PM
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12. Unfortunately,
for me, I am going off to one of those famed "back to School Nights. But our local CBS affiliate had a 25 second spot of Dan's comments tonight which are basically we are standing by our story. I suspect that the old woman won't be prepped and interviewed tonight otherwise the teaser would have indicated that which it did not. Getting an 86 year old from dallas to laguardia these days is no blink of the eye so will see......Just don't drink any ice tea the stewardess offers...

Seriously my humble take on this is that even is the documents are forged it is the press's duty to stay on story which are the multitude of lies in GW Bush's military record. If this 86 year old grandma goes on and on about how she recalls waht a rule breaKER, SLACK OFF, AWOL DRUNK NO SHOW HE WAS --ONCE AGAIN THE WH HAS A PROBLEM. Not every independent or fence sitter is going to suck this up and blame Dan Rather...
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:39 PM
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13. why couldn't the documents be forgeries? Rovian attempt to get Rather
Compared to the rest of the presstitutes, Rather has become a bit of a thorn in the side of the Bushies. Sixty Minutes has also been out in front of the herd of lapdogs.

Why WOULDN'T a Rove type set a trap, with faked documents, to try to snare Rather?

I still believe they're authentic, but the whole brouhaha has completely usurped the rest of the dialog, about AWOL and the rest of whatever might be important to the country or the world.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:55 PM
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15. JUST SAW IT
Mrs. Knox said that she believes the documents to be fakes BUT THE CONTENT IS TRUE. She will be on 60 Minutes tonight, along with more no the story.

The CBS VP said that they will "redouble their efforts" to answer the questions regarding the authenticity of the memos.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 06:06 PM
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17. She can't say they are fakes!!!!!
All she can can do is say she did not type them. Reports by CNN and others are biased as well, the experts are saying that they cannot authenticate the documents one way or the other. This does not prove they are fake, just that they don't know.

Incredibly one guy (Hodges??) says the document is fake but the signature is authentic. Does this sound a little strange?
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:13 PM
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18. Killian could have typed them himself to keep confidentiality
Remember, he was concerned about the ramifications of the situation. Maybe, he typed them himself or had someone with a special clearance do so in order to keep the information as confidential as possible. The signature was authentic. They typestyle had been used since the sixties.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:48 PM
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21. The only problem with that idea is that Mrs. Knox saidq
that some of the language in the memos was "Army" not "Air Force."

She also said that someone may have seen the actual documents and this was their effort to reconstruct them, and maybe they put in just enough changes that it couldn't be traced back to them. :shrug:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:35 PM
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23. The one thing I've learned from all of this is ... *drum roll*
MICROSOFT WORD RAWWWKKKKSSSS!!!

:eyes:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:55 PM
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26. This whole issue is just too stupid. Economy tanking?? Iraq disaster??
Never heard of them.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:25 PM
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27. And whose fault is that? The fault of the guy who is lying about his own
lack of Texas/Alabama National Guard service.

He lies about the economy. He lies about Iraq. He lied about his lack of service with the Texas/Alabama National Guard.

If folks need to see him lie about something else, before they'll believe he lied about Iraq and the economy, then so be it.
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