Black Gay Republicans Break with Log Cabin Republicans, Endorse Bush

[LTR]

DALLAS, Sept. 22 /PRNewswire/ -- The Abe Lincoln Black Republican Caucus (ALBRC), a group of young urban Black gay Republicans, voted today in a special call meeting in Dallas, Texas, to endorse President Bush for re- election.
The ALBRC was co-founded by Don Sneed, a member of the Log Cabin Republicans, to address the political issues and needs of young Black gay Republicans, who he says: "Our voices are never heard, yet we exist and are growing in numbers." The endorsement was fueled by the Log Cabin Republicans' refusal to endorse President Bush. "We think that the 'Republican Tent' is inclusive and there is room for differences, but one does not pick up their marbles and go home if there are a few points of disagreement," stated Anthony Falls, Republican Precinct Chairman -- Dallas and the ALBRC National Spokesperson. "The ALBRC does not support marriage for gays, yet we do support and call for recognition of domestic partnerships," he stated.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040922/flw011_1.html

Or, as Wonkette terms it, all four of them.

http://www.wonkette.com/archives/more-surprise-bush-endorsements-021752.php

[Not Me]

1. Constitutional disenfranchisement is hardly a few points of disagreement

Tell me, if you can, what a black, gay man is doing supporting bush*??

One of life's mysteries.

[gatlingforme]

11. Baffles the hell out of me.

[Xipe Totec]

43. Don't Pick on them!

They have as much reason to vote for the Repugs as the rest of the clueless unwashed masses. :eyes:

I may strongly disagree with their position, and question their sanity, and strongly suggest therapy, and call for a competency check, but I will defend to their death their right to act in a self-defeating totally bizarre and illogical manner.

[Supersedeas]

53. Self-Defeatist Attitute--Exactly...and bizarro

[kokomo]

79. Black America is more homophobic than white America...

Also include Hispanics. However, I have noticed that very effeminate gay men seem to be accepted in the minority communities. The macho straight men just don't want to see gay men acting masculine.

[Kool Kitty]

93. I'm stumped by that, too.

[krkaufman]

29. Only marginally less ironic...

... than the subgroup of Muslim, Black Log Cabin Republicans with membership in the Sierra Club and the ACLU -- also endorsing Bush.

[funnymanpants]

57. Greed

Which the Republican party endorses.

[qwlauren35]

106. I don't think they see it that way....

For starters, you'd have to have some data on how many African-American gay men tend to permanently partner, out of the entire group. That determines how important the constitutional ban is to them.

If they tend to have high paying jobs in growing fields, decent health care benefits, NO children and no domestic partners, then they'll be more concerned about taxes than social issues.

It hurts... but there it is.

[BurtWorm]

2. So Bush has picked up one vote from the gay community.

:eyes:

[wolframtarant]

5. Hmmm...

For some reason, I don't think there are too many young Black gay Republicans...

[dogtag]

3. Black, gay republicans? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

[gatlingforme]

14. I would like to know their reasons for supporting Bush THAT would

be funny.

[blm]

4. Those FOUR guys are likely being PAID handsomely.

.

[qanda]

10. Of course they are...

Don Sneed, who is also a member of the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS (a Bush Appointee).

[Tight_rope]

101. I knew something smelled funny!

[soleft]

6. I hope none of these guys lose kids in a custody battle

Oh wait, maybe they should, don't know what else it would take to wake them the f*ck up.

[vi5]

7. I thought that was an Onion headline.

[The Stranger]

13. Please, please, please tell me this is satire.

[randome]

8. I think you meant...

"...black, gay masochists."

[sui generis]

9. my head is spinning like Linda Blair

what . . . disagreement among the ranks of the delusional? Someone cautioned me last week at happy hour (here in Dallas no less) not to be so enthusiastic about bashing LCR's and to be more inclusive in my thinking.

I thought about it for about, oh wait, didn't think about it at all. I don't have to be inclusive of idiots who don't even remotely speak for me, and if I were Jewish I wouldn't be inclusive of Jews for Hitler either.

LCR and alla ya'll LCR wannabe's -- the republican party is welcome to keep you.

[rocktivity]

12. Have they drank the GOP's Kool-Aid, or what?

Don't they get it that all they want to "include" are their VOTES???? And how can you define the GOP's refusal to acknowledge your very EXSISTENCE a "point" of disagreement? By the way, have the Log Cabin Republicans actually said they're endorsing Kerry?

:headbang:
rocknation

[donco6]

72. The LCR did NOT endorse Kerry.

They just refused to endorse Bush.

These guys are actually endorsing Bush.

[bagnana]

15. I understand the black gay homeless atheist women coalition

are also going to endorse Bush. Not.

[UpInArms]

16. will they be carrying signs that read

Roaches for Raid?

[BadGimp]

91. or signs that read

Cows for Ronald McDonald

[Bandit]

17. Proof that some Americans are not the brightest bunch.

It is mind boggling the stupidity demonstrated with this group.

[neuvocat]

18. Maybe its to piss off the freepers.

I'm sure they hate to be identified with a bunch of gay (and maybe horny) black men.

[mac56]

21. That's what I thought too! Reverse psychology!

If black gay men like *, maybe that'll scare some freeps away!

For a long time, I've maintained that this is why the LCRs didn't endorse *: wanting to keep the base intact. LCRs want to win, and if they have to be the sacrificial lambs to do so, they're willing to take one for the team.

[EST]

24. I must be exhausted-I find your thought delightful, heehee

Two hundred years ago, there were black slaves who felt that their positions in life were exactly the way it was supposed to be. They actively resisted any change (conservative vs progressive, anyone?), and dreaded any attention that anyone else drew to themselves. They actually defended their master's right to own them. People aren't necessarily stupid, just different, sometimes VERY different. Bush isn't stupid, but he is an idiot and a fool.


On Edit: Strange as it may seem, and to me it seems strange, but there are people, right now, fundamentalist christian and muslim women come readily to mind, to whom the fundamental rightness of being subservient and even giving someone else the power of death over themselves is just the way it's supposed to be. To me, it's just too foreign, but to some they are brain slaves to someone else and they don't want it to be any other way.

[SomthingsGotaGive]

98. That my friend describes us all to our own degree.

Well said!

[yardwork]

67. LOL! Great point! I hope they go over to Free Republic right now

and start asking people for dates.

[DFWJock]

19. This group

shares a meeting space with the Black Lesbian Jewish Aromatherapists for Bush. Its a phone booth over in Oaklawn.

[transeo]

20. This is truly twisted

So now they can be disenfranchised voters AND lack the right to get married. Wow! How ingenious of them...

:wtf:

[sofa king]

22. In other news....

Tommy Johnson, President of The Nathan Bedford Forrest Black Klansmen Caucus is the featured guest of honor at tonight's rally.

[Chovexani]

34. LOL!

I love that movie. :)

[Xipe Totec]

44. Good One!

Loved the movie!

[Tight_rope]

102. ROTFLMBAO.....Thank you for the late night early morning laugh!

[pdx_prog]

23. Geez....

And just when we all thought it couldn't possibly get any stranger....

[takumi]

25. This Has GOT TO BE A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But wait a minute . . . this is Dallas, TX . . . how many members do they have?

[Raster]

26. The Black Gay Republicans. All five of them...

[lostnfound]

27. They have something in common with Maryam, the Iranian woman.

Masochism?

(http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=845355&mesg_id=845355">the Iranian woman)

Or more likely, what they have in common is that they are serving a propaganda function.

[Fovea]

28. And they favor emergency powers for Col. Sanders.

nt

[zbdent]

30. Both of them?

You know, one for Bush's photo-ops, and the other for Cheney's photo-ops . . .

[Chovexani]

31. I'm speechless.

:wtf:

[Tommy_Douglas]

32. Room for differences in the Republican tent?

Bwahahahaha!!!

This coming from the administration whom fires people for questioning decisions or having different ideas.

This coming from a party that comes across disdaining minorities and openly hating gays.

These guys love their wallets more then themselves.

[Chovexani]

36. Room in the back of the tent I guess

Someone's got to clean it up. :eyes:

But yeah, the only reason I can come up with is cold hard cash. Much like white gay Repukes these guys feel like their money insulates them from discrimination.

As Black folk they ought to know better.

[EST]

41. Y'know, we make jokes about them, but this may point out

a fundamental principle of the republican party that free-thinking, freedom loving, essentially free spirited people, meaning us, or most of us, just don't get. It's not a matter of understanding or not understanding, it's more like a way of thinking that we just can't grasp, fundamentally. Gaaa- this is getting too wierd. Brings to mind the wisdom of Richard Bach- the golden rule is NOT do unto others as you would have them do unto you, the rule is: Do unto others as they want you to do unto them, if you feel like it. I mean, their greatest pleasure might be to be thrown into an alligtor pit, but you are not obligated to do it for them.

Think I need something to smoke 'bout now...

This means that it really doesn't make any difference that Chemical Rush has a hate radio program, he ain't changing anyboby's mind, he's just giving like-minded wierdos a clubhouse. Right wing Christians really KNOW that we are the very embodiment of evil and we are going to eat their unborn babies, given half a chance... OOOH-ugh! Epiphany. No wonder they seem as wierd to us we must seem wierd to them.

[donkeyotay]

76. That explains it

"These guys love their wallets more then themselves."

[kokomo]

a million gays voted for Bush in 2000.....

25% of gay America is believed to have voted for Bush last time around, but he may lose them this time. Instead, Bush/Cheney is working hard to get the 5 million evangelical Christians who did not vote in 2000 out to the polls. Log Cabin Republicans tend to be the wealthier, professional class and felt they could change the Republican Party from within. They are quick to point out that not endorsing Bush does not mean they want John Kerry. Nader maybe???
But like all good little Republicans, who cannot break the party habit, they will probably pull a lever for Bush once again.

In a guest commentary for the conservative Web site World Net Daily,
"http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40296" Robert Knight, director of the Culture & Family Institute, an affiliate of Concerned Women for America, wrote that Log Cabin does not belong in the GOP’s "Big Tent."

"LCR, which is trying to make the GOP safe for sodomy, first became conflicted when President Bush endorsed the Federal Marriage Amendment," Knight writes.

Don't know about you, but I don't go where I am not wanted.

[kokomo]

81. a million gays voted for Bush in 2000.....

25% of gay America is believed to have voted for Bush last time around, but he may lose them this time. Instead, Bush/Cheney is working hard to get the 5 million evangelical Christians who did not vote in 2000 out to the polls. Log Cabin Republicans tend to be the wealthier, professional class and felt they could change the Republican Party from within. They are quick to point out that not endorsing Bush does not mean they want John Kerry. Nader maybe???
But like all good little Republicans, who cannot break the party habit, they will probably pull a lever for Bush once again.

In a guest commentary for the conservative Web site World Net Daily,
"http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40296" Robert Knight, director of the Culture & Family Institute, an affiliate of Concerned Women for America, wrote that Log Cabin does not belong in the GOP’s "Big Tent."

"LCR, which is trying to make the GOP safe for sodomy, first became conflicted when President Bush endorsed the Federal Marriage Amendment," Knight writes.

Don't know about you, but I don't go where I am not wanted.

[VegasWolf]

82. Humm! Maybe not so different. Maybe they acting out of

social consceince and are against condoms for teenagers!

[Cronus Protagonist]

95. Yeah, serving the pigs in a blanket, dressed as stable boys

It's probably one of their deepest fantasies.

Fascism: We Report You Decide
http://cronus.com/fascism

You might be a Republican if...
http://cronus.com/quiz

Commentary by a Republican...
http://cronus.com/republican

The REAL Republican Platform...
http://cronus.com/platform

Bush's Illustrated Resume
http://cronus.com/bushresume

Isn't That Strange?
http://cronus.com/oil

:)

[Deja Q]

33. BGRs?! I thought Republicans didn't believe in segregation?

:shrug:

[Surf Cowboy]

35. Is there a more stupid fringe group out there?

If so, please let me know. I guess all we need to wait for now is the Sierra Club's endorsement of *.


Jackasses. Complete idiots. Stupidity on a truly cosmic level.

[Rambis]

37. Damn, there goes the metaphysically challenged ghost vote

This group of repugs could meet in a phone booth and have plenty of room.

[BiggJawn]

40. Don't hold your breath...

The Sierra club is almost more anti-Chimp than me.

As if LCR's weren't weird enough, now we find that there are BLACK LCR's?

Is that a big "tent", or a big CLOSET?

[dolstein]

38. Aside from Alan Keyes . . .

I didn't even know there WERE any black gay Republicans.

[freestyle]

39. Black Gay Democrat wonders what they are smoking

I know that these people exist, I just truly cannot understand their thought process. The republican party of today wants to suppress the Black vote and deny citizenship to Gays, yet these guys support them. Also, don't they know any history? The Nazis got warmed up with Gays, and Jewish lackeys of the Nazis ended up just as dead in the end. When the shit comes down, and it will if there is a bush junta second term, these guys will have nowhere to turn and no one to blame but themselves. How the hell can money and sniffing the ass of power be more important than basic human dignity, or possibly life itself? I have real difficulty claiming these people as brothers, but they probably think that is a relic of the Civil Rights Movement anyway.

[Roy Robertson]

84. Hey freestyle, do you wrestle?

I tried to send this as a Personal Message, but the DU board wouldn't let me. It said I don't have enough posts
So instead I should waste everyone's bandwidth here? I will alert the moderators about my own post.

[freestyle]

104. Swimmer not a wrestler

[cyr330]

42. Double the stupidity

Why any gay person would vote for a Repuke or why any African American would vote for one either, but to be Gay AND Repupuke??? Damn. There are more stupid people in the world than I even thought possible. . . .

[Az_lefty]

45. Unreal...this sounds like a bad joke.

[davidinalameda]

46. how bizarre

gay urban black Republicans?

only in Texas

[wickerwoman]

97. As opposed to all the gay rural black Republicans?

:wtf:

[dennis4868]

47. A BLACK GAY REPUB....

voting for Bush is like jews voting for Hitler....WTF? How can this be?

[Renew Deal]

69. More like

gay jews

[spanone]

48. What? 2 or maybe 3 delusional members?

[onenote]

49. the mansoor ijaz islamic republican caucus

presumably the next group to endorse bush

onenote

[Cats Against Frist]

50. If there's room for black gay men in the Republican party

maybe there's still hope for me!!!!!!!!!!!! -- an independent, socially liberal feminist agnostic, who thinks all traditional constructs are hoke, that the GOP is the party of corporate, criminal Constitution-trashing slime, and that most of their constituency is totally fucking stupid.

Will someone go over to Free Republic and ask them if they'll have me? If I'm part of their "big tent," will they give me an account and let me speak???

[Hell Hath No Fury]

51. I guess to be a gay, black Republican...

one must be extra self-loathing. :crazy:

[sandersadu]

52. Don't worry

All 2 of them won't make much of a difference.

[donheld]

54. this is the sickest stupidest thing i've ever seen

:wtf: :spank: :wtf: :spank: :wtf:

[JerseygirlCT]

55. Talk about cognitive dissonance! nt

[MallRat]

56. The self-hatred of these people is mindboggling.

Black AND gay?

I have no logical explanation for why anyone in this demographic would ever want to vote for *.

-MR

[fertilizeonarbusto]

58. insane

n/t

[farmbo]

59. All three of 'em?

We're doomed!

:crazy:

[Raster]

60. I thought it was five. Imagine the self-loathing. Why don't they

...just call themselves the "Uncle Toms?" The repukes have done EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to disenfranchise blacks in the electoral process, including "Jim Crow" poll taxes, identity sweeps, etc. And they're putting their <wink>power<nudge> behind<wink, nudge> chimpy mc$hrub? Guess the massa promised some special privileges down on the plantation.

[LiberalEconomist]

61. Whaaa?

What's next: Muslims and Jews for pork?

[SoCalDem]

62. I was about to suggest not using the Onion as a source

:eyes:

Some people's kids..:eyes:

[DURHAM D]

63. Is Armstrong Williams a member ? n/t

[Cha]

90. Of course..he's their head instigator..

[LTR]

64. Okay, seems there's at least two of them

http://www.dallasvoice.com/articles/dispArticle.cfm?Article_ID=5005

And no, I'm not saying anything about the guy's name!

Falls, Faggett ready for 1st GOP convention

They may be first black gay men from area to attend the meeting of conservative minds

By David Webb
Staff Writer

Anthony Falls and Kendrick Faggett, both of Dallas, are looking forward to representing their community at the Republican National Convention in New York City.
Falls, 22, and Faggett, 18, believe they are the first black gay delegates from Dallas to attend a Republican National Convention. Both are members of the Abe Lincoln Black Republican Caucus.
“This is going to be a great opportunity, and one that comes so little in a lifetime,” said Falls, chairman of Precinct 3343 located in South Dallas. “We’re really excited about going to this convention.”

Some more about them:

http://www.unipeak.com/gethtml.php?_u_r_l_=aHR0cDovL21oa2luZy5tdS5udS9hcmNoaXZlcy8wMzAyMTUucGhw

[Uzybone]

77. Kendrick Faggett?

is that really his name. Im not trying to offend anyone but this looks like some sick joke.

[JohnKleeb]

65. wow

Talk about a small group.

[Cronus Protagonist]

66. So that's three "black" votes for Bush, then...

:)

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[GmoneyOwnsYou]

68. ...

:wtf:

[chrislrob]

70. Egads!

Well, that's just stupid with idiot sprinkles...

And the fact that enough gay blacks that vote republican were able to find each other to call themselves a "group" is a testament to the internet! LOl!

[chrislrob]

71. No damn way!!!

"Kendrick Faggett"?!

"Kendrick Faggett"?!

Oh, HELL no! It's an elaborate long-form hoax! I'm not believing this till I hear more proof!

Someone write snopes.com!!

Okay. Maybe it's true.

But I don't believe it!

[David__77]

73. All 12 of them.

Seriously, this is a tiny, tiny group. Their social position as GAY, BLACK Republicans requires that they maintain their extremism even in the face of Bush's attacks. There were Jewish national socialists as well--they even wrote to the NSDAP seeking an alliance--an unequal one, of course.

[msmcghee]

74. RevRussel is on the right track again.

IMO - to understand this it is necessary to realize that being conservative or liberal is not the result of a cognitive (thinking) process. It is psychological - and it happens to us at a fairly young age. Before we are teenagers we have arrived at some basic conclusions about life - and the people we share it with.

We will either believe that other people are wonderful creatures full of creativity and mystery and fully worthy of being given the benefit of the doubt in most circumstances, to be treated as friends and allies if at all possible and to be treated compassionately when they have problems. We will want people to express their originality and those things that make them unique - and we like doing the same.

Or, we may believe that other people are our competitors. There are only so many good things out there and they want to make sure they get them - and we don't. We never give strangers the benefit of the doubt and we'll mistrust their motives - unless they are our family or in our close, easily identified group of confidants. And even then we'll be ready to turn against them if they ever show signs of straying. We expect people to follow the same rigid set of rules that we subscribe to - and we will punish those who disagree.

Granted, many people will end up with a mixture of those qualities - but by the time they are twenty-somethings they've usually settled in one camp ot the other.

Minorities of any stripe seldom have the luxury of growing up in that first group - and usually have every good reason to believe that other people will screw them if they get half a chance. That's what makes a person a conservative. I believe that most blacks are conservative psychologically. I've been told by a black guy that most black guys despise homosexuals, and what I've seen and heard confirms this.

Most blacks identify as Democrats because we are more likely to support their status as equal citizens and provide support for lower income Americans - not because they are so liberal. I suspect that if black Americans were to ever gain true economic equality, they would become conservative politically for at least as many generations as it would take to erase the memory of their earlier second class status.

I've read posts here on DU by blacks that seem to show an underlying animosity toward liberals - statements that we take their votes for granted, for example. Statements that show no sense of shared liberal ideology. I suspect that many blacks don't really like liberals because we are so open-minded about things like homosexuality and because we are not generally as outright Christian as they'd like. I would not be surprised if Keyes gets a fairly large part of the black vote in Illinois.

There's about an 8% chance that any person will be homosexual - something they have no control over and that happens to them long before they start to form opinions about the world, probably in the womb. Combine those conflicting factors and you have the enigma of the black Log Cabin Republican caucus.

[bobbyboucher]

75. Now there's a group of Mensas.

Not only would the Repubes, and Bush, like them in chains, they would just as soon kill them. The question is, would the Repubes put them into bondage for a while, you know, manservants and such, or would they go directly to killing them.

What a bunch of nutfucks.

[deadparrot]

78. Good lord...black gay Republicans exist?

[Spiffarino]

80. Jews for Hitler, Communists for Mussolini, WWII Vets for Hirohito

...etc., etc.

Hmm...there really are self-haters in every group. I guess we'll just have to find 10 or 12 more Democrats to make up for losing all the Gay African-American Republicans for Bush.

;)

[Kimber Scott]

83. What about the Latino Bisexual Knitters of America?

Who are they going to endorse?

[leesa]

85. Idiots. Yes Massa bush....I's ready for mah whoopin'

What stupid people these are!!

[are_we_united_yet]

86. Smart

reeeaaall smart.

[iam]

87. Black gay republicans?

These guys might as well jump in front of a speeding train. It's like "Chinese gay albino Jews for Hitler". Or, "Helpless young women lost in a dark alley for Rapists", or "Wimps for bullies" or even better, "Poor Black Gay Albino War Heroes for Bush*"
This has got to be the funniest thing I've ever heard.

[JSJ]

88. 3rd reich was rife w/ nazi lovin' gays- sumpin' about the uniforms nt

[Dem_Loyalist]

89. Black Gay Republicans?!

That's some confused brothers is all I have to say.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

92. That is THE MOST INSANE THING

I have heard in a LONG-ASS time.

WTF is wrong with them? Into self-punishment??????

[NVMojo]

94. give them all

a large dose of laxatives. I just don't get the sucking up to the anal retentive conservatives by gay Americans. They can make a difference in a different political party.

[flaminbats]

96. did Carl Rove charter this group?

does a donation count as membership?

[farmboxer]

99. Don King Campaigns For Bush! Also, Gays Should Not Vote Bush

I think it's very stupid to vote against themselves!

Don King has been campaigning for Bush. Birds of a feather?

[Tight_rope]

100. All 5 of them decided they would vote for Bush...What idoits!

[robbedvoter]

103. The S&M part of Log Cabin - only the masochists actually: "whip me baby!"

[LTR]

105. I wonder, do Black Gay Republicans really exist?

http://www.wonkette.com/archives/blackgayrepublicangate-021795.php

BlackGayRepublicanGate

Certain bloggers have raised doubts about the authenticity of the press release we cited earlier, "Black Gay Republicans Break with Log Cabin Republicans, Endorse Bush." They point out that to the extent the organization, the Abraham Lincoln Republicans, exists, it exists in the mind of "Don Sneed," who, according to the Dallas Voice, "has come to the conclusion that God’s existence can be proven through a number." He also believes that gay marriage is wrong and that to support it is to support "the White gay community. . . one of America's last strongholds for White Supremacy."

And then there's the guy in the organization whose name is Faggett.

Sure, this raises a lot of questions, but surely, there must be some gay black Republican Bush-supporters out there, no? The press release is fake but accurate.

[Tuttle]

107. The most ironic part?

Their votes will be disenfranchised!

Tut-tut

[Fookin_A]

108. Insignificant

They'll get what's coming to them by real black Americans; what an insult to the entire race. GWimpBush is a homophobic racist; what gives?