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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:41 PM
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McAuliffe: Will GOP Answer If They Know Whether Stone,
Others Had Involvement With CBS Documents?

Sep 21, 2004

Washington, D.C. - In response to false Republican accusations regarding the CBS documents, Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe issued this statement:

In today?s New York Post, Roger Stone, who became associated with political 'dirty tricks' while working for Nixon, refused to deny that he was the source the CBS documents.

"Will Ed Gillespie or the White House admit today what they know about Mr. Stone?s relationship with these forged documents? Will they unequivocally rule out Mr. Stone?s involvement? Or for that matter, others with a known history of dirty tricks, such as Karl Rove or Ralph Reed?"


http://www.democrats.org/news/200409210001.html

Here's the thread from GD Campaign 2000 forum. It has links to all the stuff we found out about Stone this morning.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x853182



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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:41 PM
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1. Burkett is an asshole, he should reveal his source. n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:46 PM
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4. He did and he's not an asshole
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 03:46 PM by DoYouEverWonder
He got screwed by Rove and by CBS.

Read his lawyer's statement. He did reveal his source. Someone named Lucy Rameriz. There is a possibility that her husband, participated in the MIAMI RIOT, during the recount. Roger Stone, ran the operation from the ground outside the Board of Elections office. Get the picture?

Now, tell me again, who's an asshole? An elderly honest war veteran who served his country honorably, or the the chickenshit, chickenhawks in this misadministration?

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:52 PM
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6. Wow...where'd you get the info on Rameriz's husband and Miami?
What's the connection between him and Stone? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:54 PM
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7. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out the connection I'm suppose to get. n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:58 PM
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10. From the thread linked below
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x850630

HFishbine put it together. It's only a theory but it's worth exploring.

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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:09 PM
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17. Is this him in the upper right corner ?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:53 PM
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22. Nah, that's Duane Gibson...
...aide to Chairman Don Young (R-Alaska) of the House Resources Committee.

http://www.perkel.com/politics/gore/recount.htm

The Florida Mob:

Tom Pyle, policy analyst, office of House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-Tex.).
Garry Malphrus, majority chief counsel and staff director, House Judiciary subcommittee on criminal justice.
Rory Cooper, political division staff member at the National Republican Congressional Committee.
Kevin Smith, former House Republican conference analyst and more recently of Voter.com.
Steven Brophy, former aide to Sen. Fred D. Thompson (R-Tenn.), now working at the consulting firm KPMG.
Matt Schlapp, former chief of staff for Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), now on the Bush campaign staff in Austin.
Roger Morse, aide to Rep. Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).
Duane Gibson, aide to Chairman Don Young (R-Alaska) of the House Resources Committee.
Chuck Royal, legislative assistant to Rep. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.).
Layna McConkey, former legislative assistant to former Rep. Jim Ross Lightfoot (R-Iowa), now at Steelman Health Strategies.
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:32 PM
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31. Burn these guy's names into your heads.
The next repuke president will probably try to appoint them to gov't positions.

Keep the MFR's out.........
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:41 PM
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2. this is a riot
LOLOLOLOLOL
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:43 PM
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3. I'm sure the media will jump all over this
after all, they were mighty quick calling the docs a forgery, which still has not been proven by the way.

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theshadow Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:39 PM
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33. When hell....
5 hours later and neither CNN or MSNBC have it (but oh boy they're still pushing the supposed link between Lockhart and Burkett).
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Sir Derek Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:48 PM
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5. Is there any relationship between Stone and Buckhead or
Buckwheat or whatever that Freeper lawyer is called?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:55 PM
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8. There's got to be something
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 03:56 PM by DoYouEverWonder
but I had to work today so I haven't had a chance to dig around any more, since what I found this morning. There is so much, that I hope other people are working on this too.

This guy is connected to everyone from Karl Rove and Lee Atwater, Jeb Bush, Reagan, Dole, Miami Riots, Internet Porn, Money Laundering, Mobutu, Jim Baker....

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:57 PM
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9. Don't forget Al Sharpton.. he's also heavily involved with Stone! n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:59 PM
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13. Yes, he worked for Sharpton in order to derail Dean
Another little Rove dirty trick. A lot of stuff came out about Stone then.

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Kilroy003 Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:59 PM
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11. True
But nothing has linked Stone to 'Lucy Ramirez' or Burkett other than conjecture. What have you seen linking him to the memo ploy?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:01 PM
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15. Stone is under suspicion
read the links. There is a lot of evidence that he is involved in this thing but you have to understand the history here.

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Sir Derek Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:59 PM
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12. Was Buckhead part of the Dade County Assault team?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:00 PM
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14. Yes, he ran it
Jim Baker called him and Stone and his wife Nydia got their CANF friends to round up the posse.

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Sir Derek Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:04 PM
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16. It's amazing how quickly Buckhead discovered the forgery.
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 04:05 PM by Sir Derek
It is almost as if he knew already. And why did the WH release the documents without even raising the question of their authenticity? Perhaps they were anxious to see them out there as well, especially in the hands of the only network that isn't run by a Republican.
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Sir Derek Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:18 PM
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18. Bush Campaign Gets a Case of Camera Shyness
Sep 21, 2004

Bush Campaign Gets a Case of Camera Shyness

Backs Away From Defending Bush Guard Service, Debating the Facts

Washington, DC— Facing questions about President Bush’s Guard Service and its own possible involvement with the disputed National Guard documents, the Republican National Committee has postponed a call scheduled to discuss the issue this afternoon.

And, in the last several hours, the Bush campaign has also cancelled scheduled appearances by Dan Bartlett on cable networks this evening. These cancellations came as the Bush operatives refused to appear live alongside Kerry campaign official Joe Lockhart.

“It’s clear that even the Bush campaign is having a problem defending the President’s National Guard service,” said Democratic National Committee Spokesman Howard Wolfson. “The Bush campaign has decided to once again duck the tough questions and avoid real debate. Given the President’s National Guard service, I don’t blame them for being camera shy.”

DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe himself held a conference call earlier today where he focused on tough questions on the President’s lack of service, his three different explanations for missing his physical and whether he deserved his honorable discharge.

McAuliffe also highlighted a New York Post article that suggested that GOP operative Roger Stone might be involved with the CBS documents.

http://www.democrats.org/news/200409210003.html
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:26 PM
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19. This is good and scary at the same time
An animal is most dangerous when they are caged and wounded.

Canceling scheduled appearances? Oh goody, they're in a panic. Can't wait to see what they pull next.


BTW: Welcome to DU :hi:


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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:34 PM
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32. It seems we have a Nixen connection
Isn't it funny how all these people who are coming out in the news seem to have a Nixen connection? Is there any link to all of them that could prove this was a large scale smear campgain against Kerry?
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:29 PM
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21. My, you catch on fast!
;)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:52 PM
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23. You got that right, it was lightening fast
....and the thing was there an attack on DU telling us that the documents were a fraud.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:03 PM
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24. Yes, I watched it go down
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 06:04 PM by DoYouEverWonder
I freaked out and told my husband because that was the same thing the freepers tried to do to me when I posted the pictures and documents from the Gainesville Swift Boat Vet Rally.

This was one of their more ridiculous posts.




Flyer is on the outside of the window, probably placed there by one of the DU crew.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1196273/posts?q=1&&page=51

Anyway, I was on line the night when the story broke and then within hours someone came here and started the typewriter argument.



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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:04 PM
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25. Sorry, please confirm you are saying Buckhead ran Dade County Assault
w Roger Stone. . . . . . . . .getting mixed up in pronouns!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:08 PM
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26. No
I have found no connection yet between Buckhead and Stone.

However, Stone is directly connected to Rove.

And Buckhead is at least indirectly connected to Rove.

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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:23 PM
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27. Buckhead is a card-carrying member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
This Post-Gazzette article takes a look Harry W. MacDougald aka Buckhead and his newfound expertise on forgeries and typewriter arcana.

<snip>

MacDougald is a lawyer in the Atlanta office of the Winston-Salem, N.C.-based firm Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice and is affiliated with two prominent conservative legal groups, the Federalist Society and the Southeastern Legal Foundation, where he serves on the legal advisory board.

Founded in 1976, the Southeastern Legal Foundation has fought affirmative action and domestic-partner benefits for government employees, and successfully challenged a Clinton-administration plan to use proportional sampling, rather than a hard count, to estimate population in the 2000 Census.

MacDougald helped draft the foundation's petition in 1998 that led to the five-year suspension of Clinton's Arkansas law license for giving misleading testimony in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case.

And he assisted in the group's legal challenge to the campaign finance law sponsored by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis. The challenge, ultimately presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, was funded largely by the Southeastern Legal Foundation in conjunction with Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., the law's chief critic, and handled by former Clinton investigator Kenneth W. Starr.

<snip>

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04262/381287.stm
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:27 PM
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28. He is also a member of the Fulton County Board of Elections
He filed the law suit to get Clinton disbarred in Arkansas. Ken Starr was also involved in this suit.

He has been a freeper since 1998.

He's a member of the Federalist Society.

There's a bunch more, those are just a few tidbits off the top of my head.

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 03:40 AM
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35. And tied to Hans von Spakovsky
head of the DOJ's "voting section", which is spearheading an attack on selected districts to try to stop blacks from voting by getting "on call" federal prosecutors to allege fraud. Both members of the Federalist Society in GA at the same time and involved in its "voting integrity project" (which deliberately squelched the black vote).
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:28 PM
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20. LMFAO
(((BUCKWHEAT)))) that's funny....:hi: :thumbsup:
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SineOfNothing Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:41 PM
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29. Are the documents real or not?
Which would we prefer if this Stone dude is the guilty party?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:55 PM
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30. I still think they're real. But I don't understand Stone's motive if
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 06:56 PM by w4rma
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 03:42 AM
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36. the intended target was not CBS/Rather
but the Kerry campaign--just didn't work out that way
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dammit905 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:34 AM
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34. Guys, we already figured out that it was Dan Rather.
Let's just leave it at that.

/freeper impersonation
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