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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 09:14 AM
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Democrat Dean seeks to challenge Bush on Iraq
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030825/pl_afp/us_politics_dean&cid=1521&ncid=1480

SEATTLE, United States (AFP) - Cheering supporters packed a Seattle park to hear former Vermont governor Howard Dean, an opponent of the US war in Iraq, who is emerging as a frontrunner in the field of candidates seeking to challenge President George W. Bush in the 2004 election.

"People are sleepless in Seattle wondering whether they'll have health care, keep their jobs or if their kid will be the next to die in Iraq," Dean said Sunday at Seattle's Westlake Park where some 2,000 supporters turned out to hear the candidate seeking to win the Democratic Party's nomination for the presidential election.

Dean is following Bush in the economically-depressed US northwestern states of Idaho, Oregon and Washington to address economic and environmental woes and press his outspoken criticism of the Iraq war.

The president has been vacationing on his ranch in Texas but has made several trips to western states to raise funds for his presidential campaign and tout his environmental initiatives.

Up to 500 drum-banging demonstrators expressed their disapproval of Bush when he visited Seattle Friday.

Dean says he will repeal tax cuts proposed by Bush and use the funds to build infrastructure, fund a health care system and help with jobs and education.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 09:34 AM
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1. 2,000 supporters?
Uh, I think you can multiply that by a factor of at least four or five. Even the police estimated 8,000.

Jesus, this type of reporting is really infuriating.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:09 AM
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5. Dean from a "politically insignificant state"
Did you notice that phrase?

Last week someone from DU pointed out that this phrase had been used on a television program in connection with Dean.

Sounds to me as though Rove is writing some of this stuff.

Anyway, the story could not deny the success that Dean is having.

Congratulations to Seattle folks. You are giving me hope.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:42 AM
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10. I was there
I just have to laugh at the word choice of "insignificant" in reference to anything about Dean and the political movement that his campaign has become.

You should have hope. These weren't political "lookie loos" OR lock step activists. These were families and students that ranged the age, culture, gender, sexual orientation, and economic gaps AND the political spectrum.

WE will be the tidal wave that knocks Jr off of his tuffet.
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budmo Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 09:35 AM
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2. Dean
I think the Dean campaign is brilliant and deserves to win the nomination. No other candidate is affectively ruffling the Bush issues like the Gov. is.
For all you DLC-ites out there..it's time to drop the tired out thinking about Dean. He's no liberal. He's man with political nuances that will help heal this country. But like the Gov. says..we have a huge part to play in this and we need to get real. The only way to beat Bush is to go after him, throw him off message, get under his skin, reveal that the emperior really does not wear any clothes....and it's time for him to go!Seeing how Dean is basically setting the Dem's agenda for the primaries, I think it's safe to say that the Insiders are basically mute and invisible and Dean will win the nomination AND the election.
In all my 48 years...I've never wittnessed a movement like this one for Dean.Take a moment...go to the web site(deanforamerica.com)-look into his positions, his track record -his campaign.It's absolutly amazing!

"This is the great grassroots movement of the modern era, built with mouse pads, shoe leather, and hope." - Howard Dean
:kick:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 09:41 AM
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3. Welcome to DU budmo!
:hi:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 09:41 AM
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4. Don't forget that Dean has stated that he will support ANY Democrat...
Edited on Mon Aug-25-03 09:43 AM by NNN0LHI
...no mattter who it is, DLC or not if he gets beat out in the primaries. Which indicates to me he is much smarter than some of his supporters.

Don

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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:41 AM
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9. Not smarter, but loyal to the party.
Many Dean supporters, including me, will not take just any Democrat. Lieberman for example, or probably anyone that supported the Iraq war.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:51 AM
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12. You would chose Bush over someone who voted for the Iraq resolution?
I think you may have just proved my original point.

Don

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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:59 AM
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13. Why, are you a Lieberman or Kerry supporter? Just guessing.
Bush or Bush lite doesn't work for me.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 11:22 AM
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14. I support any Democrat that can remove control of this device from Bush
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/nuclear-football.htm

The Football

The Football, its official name is unknown, is a secure package that contains the necessary Gold Codes, or nuclear launch codes, the Presidents Decision Book, which details nuclear strike options available to the President, a secure SATCOM radio and handset. It follows the President where ever he goes and is never more that a few steps from his side. A military officer carries the Football and undergoes the nation's most rigorous security background check, "Yankee White".


The concept of the football came about in the aftermath of the Cuban Missile Crisis. President Kennedy was concerned that some Soviet commander in Cuba might launch their missiles without authorization from Moscow. After the crisis, Kennedy ordered a review of the U.S. Nuclear Command and Control system. The result was the highly classified National Security Action Memorandum that created the football.


The White House Communications Agency, consisting of personnel from the Defense Communications Agency, Defense Communications Support Unit and the Defense Communications Operations United (this unit is responsible for communications and emergency power engineering) oversees the military unit in charge of the Football. To work in these units, personnel must obtain a Yankee White security clearance. The criteria for this clearance include U.S. citizenship, unquestionable loyalty, and an absolute absence of any foreign influence over the individual, his family, or "persons to whom the individual is closely linked." The aide who carries the Football comes from the four military branches and are ranked Lt. Colonel, Naval Commander, or Marine Major. They must be knowledgeable about all aspects of the overall Single Integrated Operational Plan, as well as the various options available to the President for implementing the war plan.
SIOP strategic targeting involves four groups:

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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 01:34 PM
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18. Yep, it sure is scary having Bush in control of the football.
I might cave in by election time, but have to stand on principles for now. In our small state of VT, we often tend to vote for people regardless of their party affiliations. For example Jeffords (ex-Republican), and Bernie Sanders (Socialist). If it comes to voting for one of those who voted for Iraq war, I might just hold my nose (to avoid the stench) and vote for them to get rid of Bush. But, I hope it doesn't go that way.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 02:36 PM
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19. Believe me. There are candidates I like much better than...
...Lieberman or Kerry. And I truly hope the one who wins is the one who says what I want to hear the most. But when the chips are down one has to look at the entirety of the world around us. And yes. The Football is a bitch. Worrying that the next time Bush feels a lttle funny and grabs the Football instead of a bag of pretzels can affect ones nerves over time. To think that no one in their right mind would ever put a recovering alcoholic, drug addicted, delusional, religious nut in command of a nuclear armed submarine, yet five idiots at the Supreme Court would put everything under the command of just such a person is amazing to me. What were those guys thinking when they stopped the Florida vote? I will never know.

Don

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:37 AM
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8. Hi Budmo!
We're glad to have you. You'll find lots of Deanies here.

:toast:
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 11:26 AM
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15. welcome Budmo. You'll find here Dean is considered not liberal enough
and it seems, because he's popular, he's suspect.

Because bad things are popular, right? WalMart, *, Fox News, all are popular, therefore DEAN MUST BE BAD
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 11:55 AM
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17. Hi budmo! Welcome to DU!
Here you will find hope :-) BTW, nice post!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 06:30 PM
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20. Hi budmo!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:01 PM
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21. Howard Dean's curious view of the Bill of Rights
Is this what you mean by "nuance"?

http://www.counterpunch.org/frank08122003.html
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:27 AM
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6. Dr. Dean's prescription for Bush:
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branch Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:35 AM
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7. Cool photo
I hope you don't mind if I use it to piss a couple freepers off.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 11:44 AM
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16. Get the whole set:
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:49 AM
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11. SWEET
i am sending all this too a texass dem who think its Gephardt to win. forgive him, he lives in texass.
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