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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:17 AM
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Powell: U.S. Will Quash Iraq Insurgency
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040912/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq&cid=542&ncid=1480


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Powell acknowledged that the U.S.-led coalition faces a "difficult time," but he said the Bush administration is committed to making Iraq (news - web sites) stable.


"This is not the time to get weak in the knees or faint about it, but to drive on and finish the work that we started," he told NBC's "Meet the Press."


The secretary of state said U.S. commanders are working with Iraqi military leaders and the interim government of Prime Minister Ayad Allawi to put down the extremists in control of Fallujah and other cities.


The insurgency "will be brought under control," Powell said. "It's not an impossible task."


... :eyes:
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:19 AM
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1. Didn't Powell serve in Viet Nam ?
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:36 AM
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5. Yes, he did..
..and he had a hand in attempting to cover up the My Lai massacre. I have never understood why people have had respect for the man. He's been a rightist shill his whole life.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:43 AM
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8. Yes I know, it just shows him to be a hypocrite. addressing the U.H.
made him a Shill.
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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:26 AM
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16. Amen brother.
Tarnished stars.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:00 AM
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11. Yes. He was going to crush that insurgency too
:eyes:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:12 AM
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14. He has lots of experience in lying about these things
Light at the end of the tunnel

Body counts for enemy

Making cartoon pictures of "death labs" to show the UN

Pretending to be a serious statesman with gravitas to cover for the murdering pricks he works for.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:19 AM
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2. Guess the Sudanese genocide is no longer a Powell concern.n/t
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:35 AM
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3. When you hear the lackey talk, you'll come to realise that he does
not know which way he is heading - he is a confused prick and SOB.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:35 AM
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4. Did Powell say we'll have to flatten
most of their cities to do it. That's the only way it will happen IMHO.
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:36 AM
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6. Light At The End Of The Tunnel
We've been here before. Johnson (and later, Nixon) kept promising us the light at the end of the tunnel in Vietnam. The joke at the time was finding out that the light at the end of the tunnel was an oncoming train.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 04:35 PM
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41. I posted this on another thread......
but get the video "The Fog of War" (request it from your local library if you have to) and then see if you believe this crap that Colin is dishing out. I'm going to email him and tell him to watch the video with his warmongering buddies (I know he won't, but it will make me feel better.)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:38 AM
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7. NAZI Germany wanted to be the World's Policeman, too.
Get a clue, Colin!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:45 AM
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9. Wouldn't it be better to try to negotiate
with people instead? The Iraqi people don't want us in their country. What is it about Collin and the crew that just don't seem to want to understand this simple fact.

We are doing a terrible job of running things since we took over. Yes, we are worse than Saddam.

Everytime the people of Iraq try to rise up against us, our response is to crush them. Haven't the Israelis been doing this to the Palestinians for decades? Doesn't seem to work there, why should it work anywhere else?
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:58 AM
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10. I am quashing your resistance!


QUASH QUASH QUASH!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:02 AM
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12. How's that Haiti thing working for ya Colin?




Congressional Black CaucusPresident Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., center, gestures during a news conference on Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2004 in Washington. About 30 members of the caucus demanded to meet with the White House about the ongoing situation in Haiti. In the front row from left are Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., Cummings, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Tex., and Rep. Charles Rangel, D-NY. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
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Ohio rules Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:11 AM
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13. The Chinese are walking the beat in Haiti
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 10:12 AM by Ohio rules
...but I don't think this one is Chinese :)


Someone posted a link about the story in a thread a few days ago.

btw,
The Monroe Doctorine doesn't come into play either. That doctrine was anti Euro colonial expansion document.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:02 AM
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23. But international treaties do! The Santiago Declaration
Senator Chris Dodd's statement on Haiti


I cite those international agreements because we think of our Nation as being a nation of laws, not of men. These agreements either meant something or they didn't.

The Santiago Declaration and the Inter-American Charter on Democracy, apparently both documents mean little or nothing when it comes to supporting democratically elected governments in this hemisphere--not ones that you necessarily like or agree with or find everything they do is in your interest, but we do adhere to the notion that democratically elected governments are what we support in this hemisphere.

HAITI -- (Senate - March 02, 2004)

GPO's PDF
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Mr. DODD. Mr. President, I wish to address, if I may, the subject matter of Haiti and the events that have occurred there over the last several days, now going back a week or more, in that country, that beleaguered nation only a few hundred miles off the southern coast of Florida.

On Sunday morning, as we now all know, the democratically elected government, the President of Haiti, was forced out of office. The armed insurrection, led by former members of the disbanded Haitian Army, and its paramilitary wing called FRAPH, made it impossible for the Aristide government to maintain public order, without assistance from the international community--international assistance that was consciously withheld, in my view.

President Aristide left Haiti on Sunday morning aboard an American aircraft. President Aristide reportedly has

GPO's PDF
gone into exile in the Central African Republic, where I am now being told he is not allowed to communicate with others outside of that country.
Members of the Black Caucus of the other body, and others who had an opportunity to speak with President Aristide yesterday, have publicly restated his claim that he was forcibly removed from Haiti by U.S. officials.

I quickly point out that Secretary of State Colin Powell and others have emphatically denied that charge. Such an allegation, if true, is extremely troubling and would be a gross violation of the laws of the U.S. and international law. Only time will tell. I presume there will be a thorough investigation to determine exactly what occurred from late Saturday night and early Sunday morning, regarding the departure and ouster of the President of Haiti, President Aristide.

Over the coming days, I believe an effort should be made to reconstruct what happened in the final 24 or 48 hours leading up to President Aristide's departure so we can resolve questions of the U.S. participation in the ouster of a democratically elected leader in this hemisphere.

Let's be clear that whether U.S. officials forcibly removed Aristide from Haiti, as he has charged, or he left voluntarily, as Secretary of Powell and others have stated, it is indisputable, based on everything we know, that the U.S. played a very direct and public role in pressuring him to leave office by making it clear that the United States would do nothing to protect him from the armed thugs who are threatening to kill him. His choice was simple: Stay in Haiti with no protection from the international community, including the U.S., and be killed or you can leave the country. That is hardly what I would call a voluntary decision to leave.

I will point out as well, if I can--and I know that international agreements are not always thought of as being terribly important in some people's minds. But in 1991, President Bush, the 41st President, along with other nations in this hemisphere, had signed the Santiago Declaration of 1991. That declaration, authored by the Organization of American States, said that any nation, democratically elected in this hemisphere, that seeks the help of others when they are threatened with an overthrow should be able to get that support.

Ten years later, the Inter-American Charter on Democracy was signed into law, a far more comprehensive proposal, again authored by the Organization of American States, the U.S. supporting. The present President Bush and our administration supported that. That charter on democracy stated that when asked for help by a democratically elected government being threatened with overthrow, we should respond.

President Aristide, a democratically elected President made that request and, of course, not only did we not provide assistance, in fact we sat back and watched as he left the country, offering assistance for him to depart.

I cite those international agreements because we think of our Nation as being a nation of laws, not of men. These agreements either meant something or they didn't. The Santiago Declaration and the Inter-American Charter on Democracy, apparently both documents mean little or nothing when it comes to supporting democratically elected governments in this hemisphere--not ones that you necessarily like or agree with or find everything they do is in your interest, but we do adhere to the notion that democratically elected governments are what we support in this hemisphere.

When they are challenged by violent thugs, people with records of violent human rights violations, engaged in death squad activity, in the very country they are now moving back

into and threatened, of course, successfully the elected government of President Aristide, then I think it is worthy of note that we have walked away from these international documents signed only 3 years ago and 10 years ago.

There is no doubt, I add, that President Aristide has made significant mistakes during his 3 years in office--these last 3 years. He allowed his supporters to use violence as a means of controlling a growing opposition movement against his government. The Haitian police were ill trained and ill equipped to maintain public order in the face of violent demonstrations by progovernment and antigovernment activists. Poverty, desperation, and opportunism led to wide government corruption.

President Aristide, in my view, must assume responsibility for these things. But did the cumulative effect of these failures amount to a decision that we thought we could no longer support this democratically elected government? If that becomes the standard in this hemisphere, we are going to find ourselves sitting by and watching one democratically elected government after another fall to those that breed chaos and remove governments with which they don't agree. They are being told by the Bush administration now that the Haitian Government was a government of failed leadership. That is a whole new standard when it comes to engaging in the kind of activity we have seen over the last several days.

Having been critical of President Aristide, I point out that he was elected twice overwhelmingly in his country. He was thrown out of office in a coup in the early 1990s. Through the efforts of the U.S. Government and others, he was brought back to power in Haiti. Then he gave up power when the government of President Preval was elected. During those 4 years, President Aristide supported that transitional government. He ran again himself, as the Haitian Constitution allowed, and was elected overwhelmingly again, despite the fact the opposition posed little or no efforts to stand against him.

There was a very bad election that occurred in the spring of 2000, in which eight members of the Haitian Senate were elected by fraud. Those Senators were removed from office. Six months later, President Aristide was elected overwhelmingly again. It is the first time I know of in the 200-year history of Haiti as an independent nation where a President turned over power transitionally peacefully to another democratically elected government. Whatever other complaints there are--and they are not illegitimate about the Aristide government--there was a peaceful transition of democratically elected governments in Haiti. That never, ever happened before. What has happened there repeatedly is one coup after another--33 over the 200-year history of that nation.

Whatever shortcomings they may have had, President Aristide provided for the first time in Haiti's history a democratically elected government transitioning power to other people peacefully. I will also point out that he abolished the military and the army, an institution that did nothing but drain the feeble economy of Haiti of necessary resources.

Haiti did not have a need for an army. There were no threats to Haiti. In retrospect, he may regret that. But the army, in my view, was a waste of money in Haiti, served no legitimate purpose, and President Aristide should be

commended for abolishing an institution that had been the source of constant corruption and difficulty on that nation.

Blame for the chaos does not rest solely on the shoulders of President Aristide. The so-called democratic opposition bears a share of the responsibility for the death and destruction that has wreaked havoc throughout Haiti over the past several weeks.

The members of CARICOM, with U.S. backing, put on the table a plan calling for the establishment of a unity government to defuse the political crisis. The opposition rejected this proposal on three different occasions, despite the fact that President Aristide said he was willing to have a government of unity, to give up power, to share governmental functions with the opposition. The opposition said no on three different occasions, despite the fact that the nations of the Caribbean region urged the opposition to avoid the kind of transition that we have seen over the last several days.

A hundred or more Haitians already have lost their lives. Property damage may be in the millions. Given the direct role the U.S. played in the removal of the Aristide government, it is now President Bush's responsibility, in my view, and moral obligation to take charge of this situation. That means more than sending a couple hundred marines for 90 days or so into Haiti. Rather, it means a sustained commitment of personnel and resources for the

GPO's PDF
foreseeable future by the U.S. and other members of the international community that called for the removal of the elected government.
If the Bush administration and others inside and outside of Haiti had been at all concerned over the last 3 weeks about the fate of the Haitian people, perhaps the situation would not have deteriorated into near anarchy, nor would the obligation of the U.S. to clean up this mess now loom so large.

We are now reaping what we have sown. Three years of a hands-off policy left Haiti unstable, with a power vacuum that will be filled in one way or another. Will that vacuum be filled by individuals such as Guy Philippe, a former member of the disbanded Haitian Army, a notorious human rights abuser and drug trafficker, or is the administration prepared to take action against him and his followers, based upon a long record of criminal behavior?

It is rather amazing to this Senator that the administration has said little or nothing about its plans for cracking down on the armed thugs who have terrorized Haiti since February 5.

Only with careful attention by the United States and the international community does Haiti have a fighting chance to break from its tragic history. In the best of circumstances, it is never easy to build and nurture democratic institutions where they are weak and nonexistent. When ignorance, intolerance, and poverty are part of the very fabric of a nation, as is the case in Haiti, it is Herculean.

Given the mentality of the political elites in Haiti--one of winner take all--I, frankly, believe it is going to be extremely difficult to form a unity government that has any likelihood of being able to govern for any period of time without resorting to repressive measures against those who have been excluded from the process.

It brings me no pleasure to say at this juncture that Haiti is failing, if not a failed state. The United Nations Security Council has authorized the deployment of peacekeepers to Haiti to stabilize the situation. I would go a step further and urge the Haitian authorities to consider sharing authority with an international administration authorized by the United Nations in order to create the conditions necessary to give any future Government of Haiti a fighting chance at succeeding. The United States must lead in this multinational initiative, as Australia did, I might point out, in the case of East Timor; not as Secretary Defense Rumsfeld suggested yesterday: Wait for someone else to step up to the plate to take the lead. It will require substantial, sustained commitment of resources by the United States and the international community if we are to be successful.

The jury is out as to whether the Bush administration is prepared to remain engaged in Haiti. Only in the eleventh hour did Secretary of State Colin Powell focus his attention on Haiti as he personally organized the pressure which led to President Aristide's resignation on Sunday. Unless Secretary Powell is equally committed to remaining engaged in the rebuilding of that country, then I see little likelihood that anything is going to change for the Haitian people. The coming days and weeks will tell whether the Bush administration is as concerned about strengthening and supporting democracy in our own hemisphere as it claims to be in other more distant places around the globe. The people of this hemisphere are watching and waiting.

I yield the floor
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?r108:17:./temp/~r ... ::


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Ohio rules Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:04 PM
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31. March 2,2004 ? The Chinese are there now
I was looking for a more up to date link, not rhetoric.
So
you say the US should refuse Chinese labor on this Island issue ?
correct?
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:21 AM
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15. Just saw him on CNN saying
essentially "Do NOT pay attention to that two mile diameter mushroom cloud that was recently detected in Northern Korea. Why?!? There's NO solid evidence to suggest that the North Koreans are active in nuclear testing." DAMN, that's a sick and blatantly unbelievable statement.

What a tragedy when "Potentially Good Men Sell their Souls" to the dark side. BTW I WISH that Powell was as *tentative* about drawing conclusions during the build-up for the Iraqi invasion. Once honorable men like Powell and McCain are now seen for what they are, "Right wing shills" for the Bush dynasty.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:12 AM
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25. These guys don't seem to know much of anything
Yes, I caught some of their mumbo-jumbo this morning. "Uh, it was a really big cloud, but we don't know what it was. Uh, it was a really big explosion, but we don't know if it was nuclear."

Why are we wasting all this money on intel if they don't know anything?


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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:27 AM
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17. we'll need 250k just to keep Iraq where it is



And I wonder what Powell is telling Turkey
about Tol Afar.

He ran up a yellow Kurdish flag outside his office. He was
told by local people to take it down or die.

He refused and was killed the following day. His office, along with the yellow flag, was burned by an angry crowd.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=560815
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:04 AM
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24. Right. Only the beginning.
"He" was the newly-appointed Kurdish mayor of Tal Afar, "an ethnically Turkmen city in northern Iraq."

    There has been tension, sometimes boiling over into gun battles, between the Kurds and the Turkmens since last year.
    ...
    Both Arabs and Turkmen fear ethnic cleansing in reverse. In Tal Afar, a poor city with high unemployment, there was friction from the beginning. Days after the fall of Saddam the Kurdistan Democratic Party appointed its own mayor called Abdul Haleq in the city.


So it's likely the ethnic Turks slayed the Kurdish mayor.

The blood is only just beginning to flow.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:54 PM
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33. This could not have happened
Bushco has been telling us how the north of Iraq is peaceful and back to normal day to day business. That day to day business being driving our asses outta there!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:27 AM
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18. More "faith based" foreign policy.
We will win because it is "unacceptable" to lose.
Like gritting your teeth real hard was a relevant strategy.
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Owlet Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:42 AM
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19. "When the situation changes, you adjust," Powell said.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040...

Well, the situation HAS changed, and we'll be adjusting your ass right out of there in November.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:45 AM
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20. Colon Bowel is saying this
because he doesn't know of any other options available to them. They know it's impossible to leave now -- they're afraid that Russia & China would move in and take the oil.

Meanwhile, they're damned if they do & damned if they don't -- the insurgents (Iraqis, NOT foreign fighters) will continue to sabotage the pipeline and continue to booby-trap the roads with explosives.

Colon is only too aware of the impossibility of fighting guerrilla warfare in the cities & villages where the local population supports them. It didn't work in VietNam and it's not working here. But they feel they have absolutely no alternative. They're trapped into a sequence of events of their own making.

Right, Colon?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:53 AM
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21. Yes Colin, just like we "quashed" those pesky Viet Cong
Shit, were you even THERE? Were you even paying attention AT ALL??
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sally343434 Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:54 AM
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22. Almost word for word
This is something Israel's Likud has been saying for, what, 25 years?
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:19 AM
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26. Kill them until they stop resisting
I looked up "quash" in the dicktionary and this is what it means:

We will continue to bomb civilian populations trapped in cities where some portion of the population sees us as an invading force.

Despite the fact that the Geneva Convention defines this as a war crime, despite the fact that these people have nowhere to retreat to, we will kill them until they stop resisting being killed.

We're allowed to do this because the fraudulent dickhead that declared this war also declared it over.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 02:07 PM
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36. To be fair--the Romans did manage to quash insurgencies against them
Of course, they had to slaughter tens of thousands, cut off the hands or gouge out the eyes of thousands more, and sell the rest into slavery.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 05:09 PM
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43. I imagine then that we'll be staying the course
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 05:13 PM by donkeyotay
Those terms are completely acceptable.

Stay the course!

Whatever it takes!

Bring it on!

I are the War President.


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:28 AM
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27. Like USSR "quashed" the Afghan insurgency??? or like the US
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 11:28 AM by SoCalDem
quashed the North Vietnamese insurgency...??
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:30 AM
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28. The best book to read on this
is the last Geobals diary.

This takes place in the last few months of the war in Europe.

Now you might of thought that this might be a bit of a depressing book, what with the Nazi's in the process of being so completely defeated, but not a bit of it, the book is relentlessly upbeat. Nazi Germany is always going to win the war in the end, the fact that at that precise moment they happened to be being invaded by an allied army was merely a temporary anomaly.

The mechanism of this self-delusion is a sucession of 'this is the last stand or we are lost', so it's 'we must stop the allies from landing on the beaches, or we are lost, it is all over for us'. Then 10 pages later that stand has been scrubed from the memory banks and it's 'we must stop them from breaking off the beaches, or we are lost'. Then its stopping the break-out of the Normandy bridgehead. Then holding a good defensive postion in France. Then of course holding the Allies at the Rhine will be no problem at all (or we are lost) etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Only on a couple of occassions does real life ever intrude on proceedings. I would guess that Geobals always thought the Nazis were going to win, up till the moment he started feeding his children cyanide.

You can see the same sort of process starting now with Powell.

Originally it was just a few dead-enders and Saddam loyalists, no problem what so ever.

Then it was an insurgency and a few u.s. soldiers were being killed, but still no problem, Democracy for Iraq just around the corner.

Now it's an insurgency and they have lost control of the cities, but it's all alright things are on schedule.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:58 AM
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30. It's already a military defeat
Victory was pronounced after the illegal invasion and now they have retaken control of a significant amount of their population and are obstructing our removal of their resources.

The job of the American press is to hide this until after November.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:39 AM
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29. History is willfully ignored at all times
by Bush apologists.

The French in Vietnam
The USSR in Afghanistan
The French in Algeria
The Portugese in Angola
The US in Vietnam
Indonesia in East Timor
The British in Iraq (1920s)
The British in North America
Spain in Central and South America
The entire British colonial empire

The insurgents always will. The occupier always loses.
It may take 10 or 20 years, but in the end the result is the same.
What makes the US in Iraq different, Mr. Powell?


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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:46 PM
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32. Just what is the work Powell says we have started?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 01:51 PM
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34. Just what is the work Powell says we have started
The work of annexxing (economically) Iraq to the U.S.

I wonder if quashing them will win their hearts and minds... I 'spose if their hearts and minds are 6 feet under... we could say that we "won 'em".

I don't see why we can't quash them though... Saddam had much less along the lines of weapons of mass destruction than we have... and held things together pretty well... perhaps shrub needs to have a talk with him.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 02:00 PM
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35. He meant "making Iraq A STABLE", a rickety building filled with horse shit
That malaproping must be contagious.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 02:16 PM
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37. "the beatings will continue until morale improves!"
Well Colin Powell has made it official -- this will NEVER end unless we just pull the hell out.

We are raping this country, our dicks up the country's ass, the counry is resisting, and the US is telling them to lay back and enjoy it.

Ain't gonna happen.

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 02:36 PM
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38. Colin, check Merriam-Webster. "Insurgency":
A condition of revolt against a government that is less than an organized revolution and that is not recognized as belligerency.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Insurgency&x=9&y=20

A. Iraq really has no government.

B. The "revolt" is against us, the occupiers.
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VladTheImpaler Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 03:08 PM
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39. HA!
Peace is only less than two months away! The world will welcome the new US regime with open arms, there will no longer be reason for this madness.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 03:22 PM
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40. No one believes this
that so thoroughly of a botched job would just transform into peace due to an election in the U.S.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 05:33 PM
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44. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
:boring:

nice try...
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 04:46 PM
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42. Quash them we will.
Iraq was stable you stupid idiot.
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