Holy war declared against Kurds, Americans, Israelis (Imam in Mosul)

[Barrett808]

(Al-Taakhi) – The Imam of Mosul’s Resala Mosque Mulla Kasim has issued an edict of Jihad, or "holy war", against Kurds, Americans and Israelis whom he described as similar to each other. He has offered a reward of $100 for each one killed. He considered Kurds as infidels.
(Al-Taakhi is issued daily by the Kurdistan Democratic Party.)

http://www.iwpr.net/archive/ipm/ipm_152.html

[REVOLT823]

1. Here is the beginning of that civil war

everyone has been talking about!!

[progactivist]

29. I think it already started.

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[Union Thug]

2. Mission Accomplished!

[whistle]

3. At least Iraq seems to have a free press, something that has...

...apparently disappeared by default from American media.

[geek tragedy]

7. This sort of thing is criminal in any civilized society.

He belongs in jail.

[Jacobin]

10. In case you haven't noticed, we declared war on Iraq,

invaded it, trashed it, are attempting to extract its resources and Westernize it.

Iraqis will not tolerate this. Their leaders are declaring war on those who invaded Iraq. This is the equivalent of the IWR which our congress passed.

I don't see how this is any worse than the unprovoked slaughter of Iraqis which the U.S. has perpetrated.

Why is it wrong for a country to fight back against those who invaded it without cause and attempt to evict the conquering troops?

[geek tragedy]

13. Two responses:

1. If this guy wants to make himself part of the war against the US, that's fair. They then have the right to arrest or shoot him. He does not have the right to offer blood money for US troops with impunity. I hope to hell that this guy doesn't purchase the death of one of my relatives over there--so you'll forgive me if I fail to join you in supporting blood money being paid for dead Americans. Again, if this guy wants to be part of the fight, he puts a giant target on himself.

2. What about the Israelis? Or, passing on that one, what about the Kurds? Are you going to defend that shit too? This guy is a thug, not a freedom fighter.

Here's a test for you--go to the country you consider having the highest regard for human rights. Then publicly offer money for the deaths of people located inside that country. Then tell me how the inside of their jail cells look.

The most just resolution here will probably be the Kurds capping his sorry fundamentalist ass.

[slojim240]

15. He has as much right to offer "blood money" as the US has the right

to offer "rewards" for its enemies. Just goes to show how convoluted the thinking of most Americans is. We are the biggest hypocrits in the universe.

[geek tragedy]

22. Do you think my cousin is the same as Osama bin Laden?

If only hypocrites are capable of making such a distinction, hooray for hypocricy.

Again, this guy can choose to enter the fight if he wants. The US also then has the right to arrest him or shoot him.

[Jacobin]

19. We bribed other countries to send soldiers to Iraq to kill Iraqis

What's the difference?

I'm sorry you have relatives over there. I hope they make it home safely. However, they are in a war, a war which WE started without provocation. They have every right to fight back. They have every right to issue edicts to attempt to oust the invaders. Remember, Bush called this war a "crusade" which is also a christian religious edict similar to a jihad.

It is very uncomfortable for Americans right now. It is very difficult to sit here and rah rah for our troops when what they are doing is completely illegal under international law, is not leading to good geo-political results, is destabilizing, is killing thousands of innocents and is otherwise completely reprehensible. Knowing or being related to someone on the wrong side of the conflict is sad. I have two sons who will soon be draft age. If bush is re-selected, I'm taking them out of the country, because I will NOT have them fight in an illegal, immoral war. I lived through Vietnam and it was a horrid time, very similar to what we have now.

As for the Israelis, they have a stake in this invasion. They want to be the dominant player in the M.E. and support this invasion. They are obviously also the enemy of Iraqis who want their country back. It was not a random thought on this guy's part. He knows who their enemies are. They fight them every day.

[geek tragedy]

24. Did you miss the part where he called the Kurds "infidels?"

I also didn't see him distinguishing between soldiers and civilians.

Your arguments about Israel are irrelevant. By that reasoning, my local preacher has the right to offer a bounty on Iranians.

Bottom line is that this comments about Americans involves him directly in the war, and his comments about Kurds and Israelis make him a criminal and terrorist.

[xchrom]

25. no more so than all the innocent iraqis inadverdently

killed by americans -- this is an illegal war make america and americans murderers.
so sorry about including your cousin in my scenario -- but innocent men, women and children who are iraqi didn't ask to wind up dead either.
please -- it's his country -- he can spout off any way he chooses.

[geek tragedy]

26. NO HE CAN'T

Can you read? He's not spouting off--he's offering money for murder (in at least the instance of Kurds).

Not everyone who wants to kill Americans is a good guy, you know. /sarcasm

[PurityOfEssence]

14. Huh? We haven't declared war on anyone in over 60 years

We don't have the morals to call a spade a spade, and this time we just laid down and let the World Conquerers have their way.

Okay, so I had to quibble.

They, as you point out, are DEFINITELY the aggrieved party: we've blockaded them, invaded them, and now we're occupying them while stealing their natural resources.

Lest we forget, though, this is a religious edict, and for those of us who pay attention to history, that is the worst kind of pronouncement of intent.

They have every right to do this, and we should have seen it coming. This isn't just punitive and a bit of thievery, we've got Baptist missionaries in there trying to get a few more scalps for the Sky Chief, and we've got a fundie nutcase as General in command of Special Forces. It IS a crusade, as well as profiteering writ large, and they have every right to resist us. The very idea that they don't betrays a lack of moral sense.

So, in short, I agree with you as usual. Just don't make it sound like we actually obeyed the spirit of the Constitution in this and actually admitted our calumny, okay?

[Jacobin]

20. So Bush's "crusade" pronouncement is not a religious edict?

Excuse me while I laugh my ass off.

[geek tragedy]

27. Are you familiar with the use of the word "crusade" in American English?

It has been used frequently to describe an important cause. Or do you think that Batman had theocratic overtones?

A lot of people are unaware of the religious meaning/history associated with the word. I would expect that Dumbya would be one of those ignorant of such a fact.

[GOPAgainstGW]

18. No the Middle East will not tolerate it & will beat us at ALL COSTS!!

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[Barrett808]

9. Except, of course, for Al Jazeera, which is banned around the country

So, it's semi-free.

[maxsolomon]

4. i believe mosul is majority kurd

careful who you declare jihad on, imam bonehead.

[mom cat]

17. It is about oil and which group will control those fields.

[nyrnyr1994]

30. 'He who controls the spice...

...controls the universe!'

[geek tragedy]

5. Not a smart man.

Now three groups have the right to bomb his mosque.

[Catfight]

6. I hope this doesn't interfere with the Iraqi elections coming up. n/t

[Lefty48197]

8. Oh Great! Another Holy War?

Why don't we just drop a bomb on his head? Or maybe TWO.

[chromotone]

11. Kurds, Americans, and Israelis...

Their version of the "Axis of Evil?"

[fedsron2us]

12. Bizarre.

According to this joker, the great Saladin, scourge of the crusaders, would be an infidel on account of his Kurdish origin. You could not make this up. Just goes to show how many fundamentalist wackos there are in all corners of the globe.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

16. So much for the 'progress'

we've been making over there per the administration

[The_Casual_Observer]

21. Won't be long until the rest of them follow suit.

[leftchick]

23. Didn't Turkey threaten the Kurds last week?

talk about your free for all....there is no hope for this mess aWol* has made.

[henslee]

28. Does this mean bingo in the main mosque's canceled this week?