Bush's Guard File Missing Records

[cal04]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Documents that should have been written to explain gaps in President Bush's Texas Air National Guard service are missing from the military records released about his service in 1972 and 1973, according to regulations and outside experts.

For example, Air National Guard regulations at the time required commanders to write an investigative report for the Air Force when Bush missed his annual medical exam in 1972. The regulations also required commanders to confirm in writing that Bush received counseling after missing five months of drills.

No such records have been made public and the government told The Associated Press in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit that it has released all records it can find.Outside experts suggest that National Guard commanders may not have produced documentation required by their own regulations.``One of the downfalls back then in the National Guard was that not everyone wanted to be chief of staff of the Air Force. They just wanted to fly or maintain airplanes. So the record keeping could have been better,'' said retired Maj. Gen. Paul A. Weaver Jr., a former head of the Air National Guard. He said the documents may not have been kept in the first place.Challenging the government's declaration that no more documents exist, the AP identified five categories of records that should have been generated after Bush skipped his pilot's physical and missed five months of training.

The AP talked to experts unaffiliated with either campaign who have reviewed Bush's files for missing documents. They said it was not unusual for guard commanders to ignore deficiencies by junior officers such as Bush. But they said missing a physical exam, which caused him to be grounded, was not common.``It's sort of like a code of honor that you didn't go DNF (duty not including flying),'' said retired Air Force Col. Leonard Walls, who flew 181 combat missions over Vietnam. ``There was a lot of pride in keeping combat-ready status.''

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Bush-National-Guard.html

[oneighty]

1. Horse poop

EOM

180

[CatWoman]

10. It may be horse poop

but it is a very good, historic article.

Most in depth I've seen thus far.

[oneighty]

26. Whoops!

I meant missing pages, paperwork undone..Horse poop. I cannot believe that. Every little thing I ever did in eight years in the navy is right there in my service record; boogers and all.

Bush* records have been cleansed.

IMHO

180

[wolfgirl]

2. We need to be patient...

getting nasty is bad...telling the truth (and being called nasty) is good. Kerry & his supporters just need to keep hammering at the truth, over & over again.

this article is a prime example of dogged determination getting the truth out...and we will be called nasty.

I love being a bleeding heart, pinko commie nasty liberal...it brings a tear to my eye & a song to my heart!

:bounce:

[dogtag]

3. Weaver's cup 'o shit

runneth over. Check this out.

http://www.phonyfighterpilot.com

[AnnInLa]

27. what a great site!

recommend everyone go and read...there is SO much info there!

[Matilda]

52. Puts a different light on Bush's AWOL status.

He was just plain scared! Now maybe there's a certain sense in
being scared of going to war, but how despicable to now accuse
Kerry of being weak.

I just hope that Kerry will keep hammering the point - this is no
time to be too nice!

[neomonkey]

7. MSNBC/Fox/CNN...and so on

Where most people get their "political information" will continue to tighten the filters and keep out the bad Georgie stories. We can hammer away, how do we make everyone hear.

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, did it make a sound...?

[Born Free]

46. smoke the coward out

democrats must be steadfast in their goal to smoke the bush coward out of hiding, one America see this phony for what he is they will dump him like a hot potato

[Elginoid]

59. fuck that- i've been "patient" for going on 4 years now...

it's worn pretty thin.

[jayctravis]

62. Kerry doesn't necessarily need to hammer this...

I'm sure just like the republicans have nothing to do with the SBV, Kerry has nothing to do with this.

[leftchick]

4. This is great!

Downright delicious! :)

<snip>
The AP talked to experts unaffiliated with either campaign who have reviewed Bush's files for missing documents. They said it was not unusual for guard commanders to ignore deficiencies by junior officers such as Bush. But they said missing a physical exam, which caused him to be grounded, was not common.

``It's sort of like a code of honor that you didn't go DNF (duty not including flying),'' said retired Air Force Col. Leonard Walls, who flew 181 combat missions over Vietnam. ``There was a lot of pride in keeping combat-ready status.''

Bush has said he fulfilled all his obligations. He was in the Texas Air National Guard from 1968 to 1973 and was trained to fly F-102 fighters.

<snip>
Records of Bush's service have significant gaps, starting in 1972. Bush has said he left Texas that year to work on the unsuccessful Senate campaign in Alabama of family friend Winton Blount.

[newscaster]

6. In my opinion, we have been gentle too long.

With this news of missing military records......we ought to publicize the hell out of the story....sky writing, billboards, tattoos on your forehead. This could be the smoking gun to prove "'s military record is a pile of crap just like him.

If we are going to take off the gloves, we do it for all issues and this one is tailor made for us.

[cal04]

14. We keep trying and they just keep changing the story

back to kerry or just plain not putting it in the news
Not only do they need to go after his records, but they need to yell about those guys who got a position with the Bush Administration that were behind the ads.

Looks like Raw Story as always is on it

Developing: Raw Story acquires new documents...

[Judi Lynn]

5. This article is helpful in describing five kinds of documents missing

--A report from the Texas Air National Guard to Bush's local draft board certifying that Bush remained in good standing. The government has released copies of those DD Form 44 documents for Bush for 1971 and earlier years but not for 1972 or 1973. Records from Bush's draft board in Houston do not show his draft status changed after he joined the guard in 1968. The AP obtained the draft board records Aug. 27 under the Freedom of Information Act.

--Records of a required investigation into why Bush lost flight status. When Bush skipped his 1972 physical, regulations required his Texas commanders to ``direct an investigation as to why the individual failed to accomplish the medical examination,'' according to the Air Force manual at the time. An investigative report was supposed to be forwarded ``with the command recommendation'' to Air Force officials ``for final determination.''

Bush's spokesmen have said he skipped the exam because he knew he would be doing desk duty in Alabama. But Bush was required to take the physical by the end of July 1972, more than a month before he won final approval to train in Alabama.

--A written acknowledgment from Bush that he had received the orders grounding him. His Texas commanders were ordered to have Bush sign such a document; but none has been released.

--Reports of formal counseling sessions Bush was required to have after missing more than three training sessions. Bush missed at least five months' worth of National Guard training in 1972. No documents have surfaced indicating Bush was counseled or had written authorization to skip that training or make it up later. Commanders did have broad discretion to allow guardsmen to make up for missed training sessions, said Weaver and Lawrence Korb, Pentagon personnel chief during the Reagan administration from 1981 to 1985.

``If you missed it, you could make it up,'' said Korb, who now works for the Center for American Progress, which supports Kerry.

--A signed statement from Bush acknowledging he could be called to active duty if he did not promptly transfer to another guard unit after leaving Texas. The statement was required as part of a Vietnam-era crackdown on no-show guardsmen. Bush was approved in September 1972 to train with the Alabama unit, more than four months after he left Texas.
(snip)

This is going to make it easier for people who don't have as much time to read as they'd like.

Thanks a lot!

[LiberalFighter]

82. A current air guard explained to me that not getting your physical

and qualification status made their reports look bad if they weren't all flight ready.

[Skip Intro]

8. Alabama National Guardsmen for Truth?

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Walls, the Air Force combat veteran, was assigned to the 187th in 1972 and 1973 to train its pilots to fly the F-4 Phantom. Walls and more than a dozen other members of the 187th say they never saw Bush. One member of the unit, retired Lt. Col. John Calhoun, has said he remembers Bush showing up for training with the 187th.
--------

I'm dreaming, I know, but would it not be exquisite to have a series of ads running where the men bush claims to have served alongside each claim he was never there?

[Judi Lynn]

15. Absolutely! A couple of the pilots have given interviews already

and indicated they had heard he was coming but never saw him. This would be SO EFFECTIVE. It also would be fitting, since _Bush already opened the door to this kind of campaigning himself.

However, I wonder if they might be concerned for their safety. The Swift Boat Liars are 100% certain no harm will befall them. People Republicans see as dangerous do occassionally fall victem to unexpected tragedy.

[buycitgo]

29. Mike Papantonio interviewed one of the pilots on AAR

I heard it the other day....anybody else?

so there's TAPE of this guy saying he was LOOKING for Bush to show up, as he was also a bachelor, and thought he could parTAY with the chimp

that's what he said....not chimp, but was looking for a 'wing' man

[Judi Lynn]

41. Missed it the other day, but have damned well heard what he said

It was repeated by a journalist who interviewed him. Said he saw absolutely NOTHING of him, not even a glimpse.

I think they had also heard he was the son of a man who was high ranking in the government.

[FormerOstrich]

23. I had a similar thought...

When I first received the Swift Boat e-mail the subject said something to the effect of "must read" "Writers Photo included". It went on to say something about the men that served with Kerry and what they had to say.

I was thinking of a similar e-mail of the men & photos that served with *. What they have to say. Then have a blank page.

Same thing...different slant.

[Career Prole]

9. YESSSS! Crank it up! Deserter Bunnypants is an "unfit" FRAUD!

I am personally deeply offended that this son of privilege has an honorable discharge because it cheapens my own.
Investigate his record, and make him answer questions about it at every damn campaign stop until they're forced to answer the charges.

[leesa]

11. I want a Pentagon investigation too. And where's that 'unbiased'

Judicial Watch?

[Only Me]

17. Going after Kerry where else--surly they would suspect shrub anything ?!

GREEEAAAATTTT SARCASM
They make me so mad :mad:

[TankLV]

37. One other important question is NOT being asked here - again.

We all know about what they claim about SNAFU's and "common proceedures", etc.

BUT:

WHO ELSE'S RECORDS ARE AS SCREWED UP? I haven't heard of anyone elses.

WHO ELSE GOT TO CHOOSE UNILATERALLY TO WORK ON SOMEONE'S CAMPAIGN INSTEAD OF STRICTLY MILITARY STUFF?

[Only Me]

53. I agree. And he got paid for it too! n/t

[Liberal Gramma]

83. And...isn't it kind of suspicious

that FIVE of the records have been "lost?" or that officers "often" didn't complete required paperwork because they wanted to be flying and maintaining planes instead? How stupid do they think we are?

[soaky]

50. they're too busy investigating kerry

not sure if this has been posted yet

Navy probes Kerry medals

[Rose Siding]

12. Weaver makes a really weak excuse

He says that records might not have been kept because "not everyone wanted to be chief of staff of the Air Force".

Maybe- SNAFUs and all- but isn't that more than outweighted by other circumstances? Wasn't there a nasty, death heavy Police Action that might motivate stateside military to pay attention to the rules?

[TahitiNut]

24. Exactly

The 'great motivator' in the stateside meta-military at the time was the spectre of "maybe you'd rather be in Viet Nam?" Of all the guys I knew and have known, only about 1% looked at 'Nam as something attractive, either for (military) career advancement of some generational 'proof of manhood.' All the rest of us viewed it as some kind of gaping maw of hell, ready to swallow us up. The National Guard was overloaded with guys who traded a 6-year (and more) PITA for a chance of a year in hell. The stateside clerks and record-keepers were highly motivated and very over-qualified.

The only ones I ever saw who were overloaded and mistake-prone were the one's handling the hundreds of thousands of returnees at Oakland Army Base. We were coming back through there from 'Nam 24-by-7 and, at that point, didn't much tolerate delays or horse-shit. To my knowledge, nobody stayed overnight at OAB on the way back. We came in through Travis AFB and went through the gauntlet of out-processing at all hours of the day and night.

[Karenina]

34. Yes Tahiti, YES!!!

Two days ago schlogging through mud, dodging boobytraps with gunfire overhead, buddies getting wasted, yesterday unceremoniously dumped onto the streets of San Francisco after a VERY LONG FLIGHT, in SO many ways, today, looking around 360 for some bearings... ARE THEY THERE? Can I tell you how many times I heard about that?

I love the "He only went to advance his career." Good move, then. Means he gained the experience to wade through the current deadly jungle of lies, deceits, swindles and atrocities. ;-) :loveya:

[Supersedeas]

85. Weak excuse for missing documents--no excuse for missing physical

All the focus on the documents is a strawman--the FACT is that he did not show for his exam--the logical next follow-up question would be to ask WHY?

No one in the TV media is asking WHY the President chose to lose his flight status and what he chose to do instead?

Plenty of time to ask why Kerry chose to testify about Winter Soldiers, not time for the facts surrounding Bush's lack of service.

Odd?

[doubleplusgood]

13. vote for this on Yahoo

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20040905/ap_on_el_pr/bush_national_guard

[Judi Lynn]

16. Thanks for the chance to vote on it. " 3.72 with 441." n/t

[GoddessOfGuinness]

21. Heavy Freeperage...

3.58 with 1004 votes.

[dweller]

49. still 3.58 w/ 3208 votes n/t

dp

[GoddessOfGuinness]

57. Kinda makes you wonder

how fixed these ratings are. :tinfoilhat:

[EST]

64. 3.58 with 3297 votes

I guess the freeps refused to read this one.

[oly]

18. I just don't understand this whole deal and it's pissing me off.

How is it that this prick is considered to be an honorable soldier kind of guy? Avoids the draft, avoids combat, skips out and lies about it. Combat included binge drinking and snorting -- with wounded liver, nasal drip and black and blue from falling off the bar stool. How is it that anyone could vote for the guy? How could anyone not see through the smear of Kerry? What in hell are people thinking? I just don't understand?

[Lizzie Borden]

40. Never overestimate

the intelligence of the American electorate. Tha'ts not original. I can't remember who said it. Sorry.

[5thGenDemocrat]

48. That was HL Mencken, natasha

I think it was "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public," but I've seen it a dozen different ways.
John
Oh, and the American people are still smart enough to see that Dopey is a total turd. They may not say it in polls now, but they'll vote that way in the privacy of the booth Nov. 2.

[FightingIrish]

19. Paperwork argument doesn't wash

I spent several hours yesterday going over the military records of both candidates for a Veterans for Kerry project. When Bush's TANG superiors failed to evaluate him, there were several directives automatically issued noting the discrepancy. Having been a Naval Flight Officer, I know that failing to take a flight physical would be a cause for a storm of paperwork and high level action.

[faithnotgreed]

22. thank you fightingirish. its great to have your input here

[Eloriel]

20. when Gov. Bush was gearing up to run for Prez,

and Karen Hughes was writing his book, some of his lackies were sent to "cleanse" his TANG records. I don't have a link for that, but I distinctly remember it as part of this whole sad story. Does anyone remember this being revealed and perhaps have a link?

[alfredo]

25. Try this

http://www.awolbush.com/

[bobthedrummer]

73. Didn't some of the journalists working on that die "mysteriously"?

After operations devoted to discrediting them?
I recall some of these articles from 2000-2001, no links at present though.
:shrug:

[DiverDave]

28. A friend of mine bagged his guard drills

and within a month he was in the regular army, sent to Germany for 3 years.
This was in 1977, they cut him NO SLACK.
This, to me, shows the media to be the rethuglican lackey.
I wonder if the Big Dog had skipped his guard drills, would the media be this quiet??
Bastards, they know that by selective publishing/showing of the news, they can get this draft dodger elected.

[DeepModem Mom]

35. That would be really interesting to follow up on, DD -- what happened...

to others who "bagged" their Guard drills. That should be part of this story.

[kskiska]

30. Do records exist for other guys who served with him?

If so, why are only his records missing?

[depakid]

31. So hit him with this!

Over and over. He certainly he opened the door for it- If the campaign won't do it, the DNC or the media fund should.

Take a swipe at Cheney's deferments, too.

If the shoe was on the other foot, this is all we would have been hearing about for the past 6 weeks.

[bvar22]

32. This part VERY SIGNIFICANT!

"Walls, the Air Force combat veteran, was assigned to the 187th in 1972 and 1973 to train its pilots to fly the F-4 Phantom. Walls and more than a dozen other members of the 187th say they never saw Bush." (my BOLD)
<end quote>


bush* was qualified ONLY to fly the F-102, a fighter that was obsolete. The F-102 was NOT deployed to combat zones during the time bush* served (sic) in the National Guard. There was NO POSSIBILITY that he would be deployed to Vietnam.

HOWEVER, the F-4 Phantom was deployed front line combat in Vietnam. Had he been qualified to fly the F-4, he could have been sent to Vietnam. This is a very good reason for a coward to not show up.

I know many pilots who served in Vietnam, and many pilots who fly commercially. I am an aviation enthusiast, and have held a civilian commercial license since 1969. To a man (myself included) ALL would have jumped at the chance to train in the F-4!

NONE would have just skipped a medical exam that would have resulted in being grounded.

I can think of NO OTHER REASON OTHER THAN COWARDICE that can explain bush*s behavior.

Will other pilots, civilian and military, please check in on this issue:

Have you ever just skipped a medical exam that resulted in you being grounded?

Have you ever turned down the opportunity to train on more advanced equipment?

[grasswire]

36. hmmmm an interesting twist

Maybe George grounded himself so he wouldn't have to learn the F-104 and go to 'Nam. Very, very interesting.

Someone with military background should phone Walls and ask him if Bush would have been re-trained on the more advanced plane if he hadn't grounded himself.

[Guaranteed]

45. EXCELLENT post.

You know, I'd love to see Kerry question Bush on the specifics of his service using real military jargon and the history of the time....

[bobbieinok]

47. in the 2000 M Heldt salon tabletalk discussion of AWOL

many posters concluded W didn't take physical in 72 because it was the first year TANG did random drug testing

The tabletalk discussion is still going on BTW

[Julian English]

72. Actually, the F-102 was deployed in Viet Nam

See:http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/f102/
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f102_1.html

Bush still did not seek Viet Nam duty when it was offered.

We need to do our research so we do not sound as wacky as the Free Republic.

[rocktivity]

33. Goody, my buttons are going to sell like hotcakes!

With the net proceeds going to MoveOnPac, of course...



:headbang:
rocknation

[tabasco]

38. Amazing. Simply amazing. If I wanted to see my records ...

the Army could tell me every detail of my twelve years of active service. The military is scrupulous with record keeping, so it just baffles me how Bush's records can't be found. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that Bush did not honor his commitment. These records could clear it all up. Simply amazing how the very records regarding Bush's questionable service cannot be located.

THE RECORDS WERE PURGED AND AWOL BUSH IS A COWARD LIAR.

[Disturbed]

39. McCain says...

GW G Bush Military service was honorable.

"GW Bush avoids the draft, avoids combat, skips out and lies about it."


The whipped dog.

[Judi Lynn]

42. Touching photo!

Just imagine hugging a man whose campaign tried to destroy you, your spouse, and child!

[donkeyotay]

80. that is one of the most disgusting graphics I have ever seen

this man has followed Colon into the credibility toilet.

[Algorem]

43. They reported this on CBS News on TV tonight.Didn't notice it on abbrev-

iated NBC News,and ABC News wasn't on here.

[TexasBushwhacker]

44. Front page of Yahoo too

And that's a good place to be!

[Raster]

51. and now we know from the actual people that got gee-dubya into....

...the Guard and then out of texas that he was a drunken, druggie mess that needed to be "managed."

I remember when I lived in texas and gee-dubya began his campaign for gov. There was a minor scandal that was swept quickly away about gee-dubya's missing military records. I remember one military guy testified that he witnessed a colonel in TANG physically removing records from gee-dubya's files and said that the word was out to remove and sanitize anything damaging to the bush campaign.

This bullshit has been going on for a long, long time. There have been several efforts to remove or change records that would be embarrassing or damaging. DWI arrests, drug arrests, medical records, military records. There is NO RATIONAL EXPLANATION for so many different types of records to be missing. Unless of course some one TOOK THEM.

[kath]

74. you left out getting his Driver's License number changed.

veddddyyy interesting, no?

yes, the number of records that have been scrubbed is truly mind-boggling.

[Raster]

76. how could I forget. yes, the first thing anyone does after being....

...elected governor. Change your driver's license number, deliberately obscure anything that references or points to the old number and then seal the personal records. Nothing to hide here.

[RTO Trainer]

54. Is anyone else here actually in the National Guard?

I am.

I have to say that there is no way I can be surprised that 30 year old records are missing, incomplete or both.

My records, the absolute oldest of which are 10 years ols in an *active* file have holes in them you can drive a semi-truck through. I keep working to correct it, but its like holding back the tide.

[WinterStorm]

66. Answer this question

Why can they find everyone else's record that served at the same time that he did but they can't find his?

Where are the men that served with him?

[Julian English]

75. The Guard records alone are not the issue.

The sum of his record. Not only is it the missing National Guard records, but dearth of witnesses to his Alabama duty, the grounding for physical, how he got into the Guard, and much more. The sum of Bush's record is what is so damning.

[Samantha]

55. Selected excerpts from Begala's "Is Our Children Learning"

at page 21, from the Chapter "Where's George? How Bush Disappeared from the National Guard for a Year":

"Had he reported in, I would have had some recall, and I do not. I had been in Texas, done my flight training there. If we had had a first lieutenant from Texas, I would have remembered." Quoting General William Turnipseed, commander of the Alabama National Guard unit to which Bush had been assigned, Boston Globe, 5/23/00.

at page 23, "The General's administrative officer, Kenneth K. Lott, backs him up. Lott says that he, too, has no recollection of Bush ever reporting for duty."

and finally, at page 24, "In fact, as the Associated Press reported, "Gov. George W. Bush's campaign workers have concluded that no documents exist showing he reported for duty as ordered in Alabama with the Texas Air National Guard in 1972. And Bush's claim that he may have made up the time upon returning to Ellington Air Force Base in Texas is refuted by the unit's former administrative officer."

End of Begala quotes. Question: Isn't the Boston Globe the paper that holds Kerry in contempt? Evidently this paper has information on this subject in its archives, but I do not remember those articles surfacing recently during this debate ....

Finally, from Molly Ivins and Lou Dubose, in Shrub, from the Chapter entitled "Class Act: The Texas National Guard and Running for Congress", at page 16, we find:

"Bush was burdened by his image, that of an Ivy Leaguer who had moved to West Texas because he saw an open congressional seat there. (Bush also padded his military resume, claiming in a Lubbock newspaper ad that he had served on active duty. No one noticed it at the time, but when a reporter covering the presidential campaign asked Bush's press secretary, Karen Hughes, about it, she, with a straight face, calculated that flight school, added to two weeks per year with the Guard, equaled a tour of active duty. This must have amused regular Air Force pilots, who used to refer to people like Bush as 'FANGers,' for 'F---ing Air National Guard.)

Padded his military resume ????

Shrub was copyrighted in 2000 as was "Is Our Children Learning?"

The public record highlighting Bush*s service shortcomings are obviously there and have been for some time. Yet we do not see reporters digging to unearth this information to the extent we see them moving earth to discover any slight irregularity connected to the service of Kerry.

Both Begala and Ivins present more info in these books on this subject, but obviously for copyright reasons, I cannot post more. If you are interested in this subject, you might want to look these chapters up yourself.

[are_we_united_yet]

56. Perhaps the records

are in one of the swift boat veterans old suitcases.

[yardwork]

58. Kick and be sure to vote - it's been freeped

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040906/ap_on_el_pr/bush_national_guard&cid=694&ncid=716

[nolabels]

65. Avg Rating: 2.88, 2310 votes

of course it has. Some of these morons will even lie to themselves if it means they don't have to face the truth.

Listening To Bush Lies Since 1998

Bush lies So often and in so many different ways that I've never had the patience to keep a list of them. However, when I write something and include the generalization that Bush lies, some readers will write in and say, "Oh, yeh? What did he lie about? I don't believe it." What follows, then, is an informal listing of just some of the lies he typically tells, starting from 2/01. Now, of course, we all know that Gore lies, Lott lies, Cheney lies, etc. But the difference between those liars and Bush is the Resident tells us that he is telling the truth when he is lying. Hence, he will tell us what he is going to do, like get his proposed tax cut from the surplus, then try to get his proposed tax cut from military and medicare funds, instead. Or, once he has actually begun a program, tell us lies about how or why the program has begun. Or tell a closed-door Dem meeting something and then swear up and down the next day that he didn't say it. Or saying, "Yes, Mam" and meaning "No, Mam." Or having a spinner say the opposite the next day. Or, or...you get the idea.

Some Bush backers claim he's not a liar, he's just not very bright and doesn't remember things very well. That may be true, but we're sure Bush would not allow such an excuse in his "responsibility era." We're sure Bush would agree that if he's that dumb, he shouldn't be President. Other Bush backers claim that some of his lies are "technically correct" or "tailored to fit the audience," or some such circumlocution. What they're talking about are lies of omission rather than lies of commission. In lies of omission it's what they imply, not what they say. For example, the other evening Bush told Congress and the American people that he was putting a "lock box" on Social Security. Now, it's very clear that Bush wanted us to feel secure in the belief that he was protecting all of our Social Security funds for the future. No question, right? Yet, the very next day when his budget book was released, we learned that Bush told a lie of omission. What he didn't tell Congress and the American people is that he would later take from $.6 to $1 trillion out of that "lock box" to cover his tax cuts. No doubt, Bush lied. He wanted folks to believe something that he knew was not true. Of course, politicians do this all the time. It's second nature. In sum, the thing that really bothers us about Bush's lies is that he is also a hypocrite and pretends he's above lying. As a liar, he reinforces our assumptions about politicians. As a hypocrite, he reinforces our assumptions about his character. --Politex
(snip)
http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm

[EST]

67. 2.88 with 2489 votes

Freeped again. Maybe (one hopes) they're at least reading some of it when they vote. Silly me!

[Tight_rope]

60. This is not new news to me....it's been out there for a long time!

[yardwork]

61. We have known this for a long time - but it's getting some coverage now

This particular article was posted on yahoo at about 11 pm tonight. It looks like the truth might be starting to get some traction.

[Career Prole]

78. I'm happy as can be that this has become an issue again...

...because there is no statute of limitations for desertion in wartime. AFAIC shrub is not just a coward, he's a fugitive.

[Jerseygirltoo]

63. Raise the rating on Yahoo!

Bush Natl Guard File Missing Records
Come on, DU'ers, go there and give the story a top rating on Yahoo so it stays in the headlines.

[Carolab]

68. Done n/t

[OKNancy]

69. Kick

[underpants]

70. Kick

I duped this, sorry.

[young_at_heart]

71. Fox News needs to get Geraldo on this right away

He'll be sure to find those missing records. He should ask how many other people's records from that time are also "missing"?

[erafastball]

77. Careful

The more we push this the more the Repug's are going to push for Kerry to sign "form 180" to fully release his records. It scares me what might be found in them although I belive that Kerry would be vindicated.

[Career Prole]

79. I was in the regular Navy for six years.

32 years ago I volunteered for a week of HARP (Hometown-Area Recruiting Program) which basically gave me a week at home in exchange for talking with local high school students about my "adventures on the high seas".

In my dusty old records resides still:
1) My request for HARP
2) My orders to HARP (endorsed upon my arrival)
3) A "Letter of Commendation" from the local Recruiting Station Cmdr.
4) A receipt signed by the yeoman in my squadron that he'd received said "Letter of Commendation".

True, I was active duty, not National Guard...but if such minutiae was saved for an insignificant enlisted sailor (E4 at the time), then how in hell could all this vital stuff from shrub's records be gone?!
George Bush deserted, whether he approves of this message or not.
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[RUMMYisFROSTED]

81. It is,

isn't it?

[struggle4progress]

84. kick

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