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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:46 AM
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Cleric supports targeting children
By Rajeev Syal
(Filed: 05/09/2004)

An extremist Islamic cleric based in Britain said yesterday that he would support hostage-taking at British schools if carried out by terrorists with a just cause.

Omar Bakri Mohammed, the spiritual leader of the extremist sect al-Muhajiroun, said that holding women and children hostage would be a reasonable course of action for a Muslim who has suffered under British rule.

In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Mohammed said: "If an Iraqi Muslim carried out an attack like that in Britain, it would be justified because Britain has carried out acts of terrorism in Iraq.

"As long as the Iraqi did not deliberately kill women and children, and they were killed in the crossfire, that would be okay."

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I wonder if Mr. Mohamed actually used the words that would be okay, or even if he expressed these sentiments. If so, his spiritual ideas are coming from another realm.
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:49 AM
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1. So do the nutballs who control the US military.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:14 AM
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2. On C-Span 1 last night.. Thomas Barnett a military stategists gave a
power point presentation called, "The Pentagon's New Map". It was the most evil thing I've ever seen. He was talking about targeting the youth in Muslum countries. Or countries in "the gap". I was so shocked I watched the thing twice. It's all about globalization, which I already suspected. Multi-National Corporations coming to a country near you. Nobody's safe.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:28 AM
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3. I saw some of that too and whoa!
What a nutbird! with his sci-fi sound effects and graphics and how impressed he was with himself. VERY smart man, -he did include some lavish criticsm of the bushies...all the more chilling.

In his head, he completely *owns* the idea that when the US goes to "war" now, we just roll into a country, say Hi All! we're just here to get the bad guys, go on about your business...

Was he absent for Shock and Awe? Ten thousand dead (like we even KNOW how many it really is). Go on about your business? I've never heard it so minimized by anyone else.

And Star Chamber-like, the dark auditorium is filled with people, suited and UNIFORMED soaking it up like a life-change seminar.
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smaug Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:33 AM
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11. Thomas Barnett - I also saw this
I watched this presentation for quite a while. At first, I wondered how Comedy Central placed such a devastating satire on C-SPAN, before I realized Barnett's seriousness.

I used to teach an Ethics in Technology course for computer technicians at a local community college (see! A degree in philosophy does have uses - slave labor adjunct at a community college!). One of my required texts was William Gibson's "Neuromancer," which posits a future world in which governments are so subservient to multinational corporations that corporations have totally free rein. His presentation made me think of the dominant and underlying themes in "Neuromancer" to the point I wondered if KKKarl is using "Neuromancer" as his conscious guide to enslaving "we the people" government to Halliburton.

If you don't feel up to reading the book, just google "Neuromancer" and there's a large number of sites with various interpretations of the work.

:-)
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Radius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:37 AM
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4. It is up to Islam

to deal with these people in the same way we dealt with people who bomb abortion clinics and shoot doctors who perform abortions.

They have to purge these people. If they do not they can not complain when the UK does


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Tahoe Mom Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:51 AM
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5. Sounds like he'd fit....
right in with this administration.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:53 AM
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6. The US right now
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 10:54 AM by LynnTheDem
is slaughtering women & children every single day in Iraq.

The US doesn't care.

Why should other nationalities care if it were US or UK women & children as "collateral damage"?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:55 AM
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7. Indeed. What does "overwhelming force" mean anyway?
It means bomb the shit out of things and use overwhelming
firepower to "light 'em up".
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:58 AM
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8. ya........so did the guy that took out
the building in oklahoma.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:03 AM
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9. Kids have said wonderful things about their stay in Guantanamo.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,13743,1163435,00.html

And, of course, there is no such thing as MIND CONTROL.
:cry::puke::argh:
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:03 AM
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10. The IDF also embraces this philospohy
The difference is, they don't preach about it...
they just do it.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:47 AM
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12. Children are being slaughtered everywhere
so grownups can have MORE.

On Brazil's streets, in Iraq, in Russia.

Isn't it nice to know that humans evolve?

Isn't it pleasant to realize we've evolved into creatures that "eat" their young?
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