Two hijackers had help in the U.S., Graham says in new book

[quaoar]

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/9584265.htm

WASHINGTON — Two of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers had a support network in the United States that included agents of the Saudi government, and the Bush administration and FBI blocked a congressional investigation into that relationship, Sen. Bob Graham wrote in a book to be released Tuesday.

The discovery of the financial backing of the two hijackers “would draw a direct line between the terrorists and the government of Saudi Arabia, and trigger an attempted coverup by the Bush administration,” the Florida Democrat wrote.

And in Graham’s book, “Intelligence Matters,” obtained by The Miami Herald on Saturday, he makes clear that some details of that financial support from Saudi Arabia were in the 27 pages of the congressional inquiry’s final report that were blocked from release by the administration, despite the pleas of leaders of both parties on the House and Senate intelligence committees.

Graham also revealed that Gen. Tommy Franks told him on Feb. 19, 2002, just four months after the invasion of Afghanistan, that many important resources — including the Predator drone aircraft crucial to the search for Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida leaders — were being shifted to prepare for a war against Iraq.

[UpInArms]

1. thank you Bob Graham -

such a thoughtful and level gentlemen.

[FlaIndie]

12. Graham is da man

What spot could he take in the Kerry Cabinet if he wants it? national security advisor?

[milkyway]

2. You Go, Graham! This is explosive stuff and could have a deeper impact

than F 9/11. Graham is revealing parts of the blacked out pages of the congressional report. Is he allowed to do this? What could the consequences be?

[Rose Siding]

4. I don't know!

I'm wondering the same thing.

Thank you Senator! :bounce:

[dansolo]

9. If they take action against Graham

Wouldn't that be an admission that his claims were true?

[mountainvue]

3. I want to hear about this

on the news. Hopefully, it gets picked up.

[EST]

7. On official state radio and tv?

You gotta be kiddin'.

[Junkdrawer]

5. Whoa. Reminds me of a Michael Moore quote...

from Michael Moore's "Dude, Where's My Country":

I would like to throw out a possibility here. What if 9/11 was not a "terrorist" attack, but rather, a military attack? What if the 19 were well-trained soldiers, the elite of the elite, unquestioning in their duty to obey their commander's orders? That they lived in the US for 2 years and were not discovered...that takes a certain amount of discipline, the discipline of a soldier, not the erratic behavior of some wild-eyed terrorist. George, you were a pilot once...how hard is it to hit a 5-story bldg at more than 500 mph? The Pentagon is only 5 stories high. Had the pilots been off by just a hair, they'd been in the river. You do not get this skilled at learning how to fly jumbo jets by being taught on a video game machine at some dipshit filght training school in Arizona. You learn to do this in the air force. Someone's air force. The Saudi Air Force? What if these weren't wacko terrorists, but military pilots who signed on to a suicide mission

[EST]

13. OK let's see now..

Saudis provide suicide mission pilots, some of whom pretend to get flight training in the US, just to throw off a later investigation. Which brings up another question, why the hell would terrorists get flight training in the US anyhow? Wouldn't it be simpler to get such training elsewhere in the world?
It seems pretty much a given that the senate intel committee and the 911 committee reports were a gigantic whitewash, especially since bushco refused to testify until they were sure the fixs was in. We also know that bush & co always lies about everything even when the truth would better serve.

Sibel Edmonds was canned and gagged because she knows and has mentioned she has proof of additional foreknowledge of the 911 attacks.
Bush shows an annoying lack of curiosity about any of this shit--because he knew in advance? or simply he da chimp--or both?
The douche mafia has a history of faithless double-dealing that goes back nearly a century and with the control and caliber of people they have installed, pulling something like this off, though complicated, would be childs play.
One must also remember the $43 million sent to the taliban in May 2001-how does this tie in? The plot thickens.

[Junkdrawer]

15. The behavior of the terrorists has always been puzzling....

Islamic fundamentalist playboys with a taste for women, booze and cocaine. :wtf:

Seems more consistent with Kamikaze pilots who were given lots of money to fuel their final days. Has anyone checked to see if their families were later "taken care of", one way or another?

[EST]

62. Nice thought.

n/t

[Festivito]

63. NOTE: most hijackers were in US for 2-3 months, not 2 years.

A couple or just one was here for two years, prior to the election. More arrived before Bush took office in January. The bulk of hijackers arrived around June 2001.

9/11 may have been planned for years, but, I suggest it was a pipe dream until Bush angered the ME trying to force a pipeline down their throats. This made recruitment of two dozen zealots from training camps easier.

Bush got high poll numbers, PNAC had their "Pearl Harbor", and the Saudis flew away free as birds.

[henslee]

6. I'm media blasting the shit out of this.. and I'm doing it "a la carte"

for that personal cyber touch. I'm stating in a short letter that the Bush/Saudi connection this new book purports is a subject that seems to never get reported and blah blah.....

[RamboLiberal]

8. Hope Graham gets booked on 60 Minutes and every damn

pundit show. And damn it Kerry campaign - jump on this. Don't think you can't challenge how * covered for his buddies in Saudi and botched 9-11 plus lied us in to Iraq. Show the voters how * has dropped the ball on terrorism.

Talk about all the issues. Don't cede these cretins anything! They've botched it all.

[Junkdrawer]

10. Umm, if true, that is Treason....

No two ways about it. If the Saudi government was directly involved in 9-11 and if Bush, for personal reasons, covers that up and protects them and not us, that's textbook treason.

[Disturbed]

11. The Bush Crime Family

and the Saudi Crime Family make the Costra Nosta look like lightweights.

[zorbasd]

18. Could it possibly be

that these 9/11 terrorists were under the impression they were doing the work of their twisted cause, but unaware they were really receiving orders from Saudi and Pakistani intelligence with a wink and nod from the BFEE?

Just a gut feeling here, that is all.

[Eloriel]

39. But they've done so MANY treasonous things already

Are you keeping a list???

Treason is nothing to them. In fact, it's aparently in the Bush Family genes.

[ItsMyParty]

14. I would assume since this is a US Senator that saw the information

that this WILL be national news. I can't imagine a sitting senator making these charges and no one reports it. I would think this would trigger all sorts of responses from all sorts of politicians. Keep an eye out when this thing hits the stands.

[A_Possum]

16. Make it a bestseller

You know the freepers would. It's not that hard to get a book into bestseller status on Amazon with several hundred pre-orders. Once it's up there it gets attention. Momentum builds. The media notices. This is a concrete way to affect the media coverage.

You can even get it on extra discount with the Kelley book.

Amazon

Graham calls Bush unforgivably indifferent to the threat of terrorism. We shouldn't let that slide into the Memory Hole.

[Beam Me Up]

Excelent Idea!

Thanks, I just bought both. :hi:

[Judi Lynn]

34. You should get a kick-back from Amazon, A_Possum!

You've shown us an offer we can't refuse! I bought them, too. Can NOT wait!

The timing of these books is matchless.

[huckleberry]

17. Sen. Graham will be on MTP Sunday (9/5/04)!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3898804/

[Cush]

22. hurricane could bump it

[milkyway]

24. That's great, too bad it's with the other guests. The gentlemanly Graham

might have a tought time getting a word in.

[A_Possum]

28. Graham does very well on television

They listen to him. Really. Even Matthews. I took note of this during the primaries.

[Junkdrawer]

50. 9:30 Kick

:kick:

[milkyway]

19. Check out the book cover! Seals of the CIA, Saudi Arabia, and President

of the United States. This is going to be a hard-hitting, hard to ignore book. And as a plus it comes from one of the largest publishing houses, Random House.

[Democat]

20. This should get 1000 times more coverage than Swift Lies

Democrats had better fan out and beat this drum until someone, everyone listens.

How many scandals have the Democrats abandoned with the lame excuse that the media doesn't care.

Make them care - that's your fucking job!

[blueblitzkrieg]

21. Is this going to make waves at ALL?

I see that he'll be on Meet the Press...but this is just going to get buried by the right-wing corporate media, isn't it? If the book comes out on Tuesday, why haven't we heard more about it and the charges Graham is making???

[Democat]

23. Why won't the Democrats make it an issue, it's a failure of Dem leadership

Bush has had so many scandals and our wimps have yet to make a single one stick.

Apparently it's easier for our leaders to make excuses than to actually get out there and make some noise!

[bloom]

25. ``Nope, no WMDs there.'' - would make a great campaign commercial

"When the weapons were not found, one year after the invasion of Iraq, Bush attended a black-tie dinner in Washington, Graham recalled. Bush gave a humorous speech with slides, showing him looking under White House furniture and joking, ``Nope, no WMDs there.''

Graham wrote: ``It was one of the most offensive things I have witnessed. Having recently attended the funeral of an American soldier killed in Iraq, who left behind a young wife and two preschool-age children, I found nothing funny about a deceitful justification for war.''"

[andino]

26. This could be HUGE

I hope that they (the media) makes this into the Bush version of the Swift Boat thing. I'd really love to hear him defend himself agains this.

[TacticalPeek]

36. Graham rules. He was the first to use the "I" word, over a yeat ago.

"If in fact we went to war under false pretences that is a very serious charge," Graham, the senior US senator from Florida, told reporters in New Hampshire.

"If the standard of impeachment is the one the House Republicans used against Bill Clinton, this clearly comes within that standard," he said.


http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/18/1058035179659.html?oneclick=true

[milkyway]

27. "It was as if the president's loyalty lay more with Saudi Arabia than with

America's safety.''

One of the most respected Dem Senators has charged george bush with treason (without using the word). It is now the responsibility of the media to investigate his charges and either show them to be true, or prove Graham to be a liar. Are you listening NY Times, WaPost, CBS, NBC, ABC, Time and Newsweek? A few decades ago you guys used to actually compete like hell against each other to be the first to get the story. Graham has put this out there and given you cover.

Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! has said that the founding fathers gave the press special protections under the Constitution that no other profession was given. That is because they had the responsibility of being a check on government, not a megaphone for it. Let's see if the mainstream media, with their vast resources, actually do their jobs. I won't be holding my breath.

[Junkdrawer]

29. Yep. It's treason. See post #10...

[milkyway]

30. Is this the "mega-Watergate" Paul Krugman said we would need to roll

back the rightwing onslaught? He said this at a New Democracy Project discussion on Monday. Here's my post on that event.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=698960&mesg_id=698960&page=

[AFSCME girl]

31. Kick! n/t

[The_Casual_Observer]

32. A fat lot the public cares

F 9/11 film didn't even make a dent, so why would this make any difference?
We are facing a propaganda machine stronger than any in history. Who knows what it will take to change it now.

[quaoar]

33. It will take a ball peen hammer blow

right between the eyes.

And this is a good candidate.

[Democat]

45. They will only care if Democrats make them care!

Republicans don't sit around and wait for the media to make it an issue - they force the media to notice by screaming at the top of their lungs nonstop. If the media ignores them, they don't do what Democrats do and give up - they get lounder and more inflamatory until the media is forced to notice.

The Republicans make news, while Democrats are usually too afraid to do anything that might offend anyone anywhere.

[gulfcoastliberal]

35. Thank you Bob Graham!

He definitely should be be chief of either CIA/NSA/Sec of Defense. If the dems roll over on Port Goss and he's appointed, first item for the Kerry admin should be to fire him and replace him with Graham. And the pugs damn well better show him some senatroial courtesy and respect. Even Ashkkkroft squeaked through on courtesy alone.

Graham knows the Bush crime family syndicate is way too chummy with SA royalty. He knows 9/11 was totally preventable and it only happened because of the coup.

[quaoar]

37. Doesn't this make you wish

that Graham was the VP nominee?

[milkyway]

43. He was my first choice if Dean had won the nomination. He would have been

the perect counter-balance to Dean. Kerry, however, is perceived as being dull, so the peppy Edwards helps him there. That being said, I think Graham is much more qualified to be Vice President (and President) than Edwards or most anyone else.

[Eloriel]

38. WOW. Just wow.

I'm speechless. Obviously another book that has to go on my "must read" list -- which surely makes about 50 now. :-( (Perhaps if I spent less time at DU??)

[madmax]

40. Holey Moley!

I just order Bob's book about 15 minutes ago from Amazon. Now I'm really impatient to get it.

[GeronimoSkull]

41. He doesn't say anything about the funding from the ISI?

That's so strange since he and Porter Goss were having breakfast on 9/11 with the guy who signed a $100,000 check to Mohammed Atta.

Strange, too, that these two headed up the Senate investigation yet we never heard anything from them about General Mahmoud Ahmad.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO308C.html

[bacchant]

42. Why a book? Why don't people share this information earlier, through more

official channels? Graham has been sitting on this for a considerable amount time. I'm thankful for any morsel of truth that comes out, but will it be in time.

[jayctravis]

44. My creeped out conspiracy theory...

is that the hijackers were told to hijack the planes and to turn off the transponders...then they were remote piloted from the ground. They didn't realize they were on a suicide mission.

Where's the tinfoil?

[truthisfreedom]

46. isn't kitty kelly's new book supposed to address that issue?

suggesting that cheney was in a remote control room?

[GeronimoSkull]

48. You're thinking of Michael Ruppert's new book

Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil



http://www.fromthewilderness.com

[bling bling]

47. Just bought the book on Amazon n/t

[DeepModem Mom]

49. We need to hit this, hard, in a 527 ad --

[quaoar]

51. Yes, we do, but we won't

We will wait for the media to do it and then, when the media lets it drop, we will scream about how biased and unfair the media is.

As a poster said earlier, we have to make it an issue and scream loudly enough that it cannot be ignored. That's how the Republicans do it.

[BootinUp]

52. Graham just moved up on my scale of great men

Its about time we started hearing the truth from those on the inside.

Bush's head:
:nuke:

[A_Possum]

53. DU'ers took this book from sales rank 7000 to rank 49 overnight

on Amazon KUDOS!

Keep it up! We can get it into top 10, where it will start getting automatic website plugs, etc, which give traction and momentum.

[BootinUp]

56. Just ordered it :-) n/t

[veluthukaran]

54. yeah biatch eat this

fuck em

[lovuian]

55. The Connection between the Saudi's Govt & Bush is there

Bush & the Saudis are trying to Rule the World

:argh: and Congress helps Supreme Court Helps

and Military Helps

and their strategy is to terrorize the US Citizens ......

Its really ugly

[Demeter]

57. They Sure Did--at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC

[atre]

58. This topic is one of the best at converting conservatives

Even die hard Pubs find themselves begrudgingly supporting Kerry when they accept the truth of Bush's ties with the Saudi lobby and the Saudi's pervasive influence in 9/11.

[indepat]

59. Will Cantor Fitzgerald have a field day in their reported $7B lawsuit

against the Saudis?

[A_Possum]

60. More red meat from this book

Sen. Bob Graham (news, bio, voting record), D-Fla., contends that just months into combat in Afghanistan, Gen. Tommy Franks also told him that fighting terrorism in Somalia, Yemen and elsewhere should take priority over invading Iraq.

Graham said Franks told him he thought the United States knew less about the situation in Iraq than did some European governments, and the Bush administration should ask them for advice.

The senator, who is retiring at year's end, said his conversation with the now-retired general came in February 2002, when Graham was chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

********

Now, of course, this puts Franks in a big bind, and he'll deny having said it. But keep in mind...Bob Graham is FAMOUS for his notebooks. He keeps DETAILED daily records of his meetings, conversations and even what he ate! This kind of regular diary-keeping is even accepted as evidence in a court of law.

Franks may deny, but Graham has his words on record, you be quite certain.

[quaoar]

61. I imagine

that Franks will just try to say that Graham misunderstood him or some such.