FBI probes Jewish sway on Bush government

[UpInArms]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/473428.html

WASHINGTON - The FBI investigation into the Pentagon mole affair has expanded beyond data analyst Larry Franklin's immediate circle to encompass the entire issue of Jewish influence on the neoconservative part of the administration.

The FBI queries have recently been focusing on a number of officials, all from the neoconservative wing, who had access to the debates on Iranian affairs, the Washington Post reported yesterday.

The officials include Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz; Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith; Pentagon adviser Richard Perle; adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, David Wormser; and Iran specialist Harold Rhode, all of them Jews.

...more...

So when do the claimes of anti-semitism begin?

[annabanana]

1. "Israeli" influence, not "Jewish" influence please.

One is a Nation State, the other a Religion.

[UpInArms]

2. I do understand of what you speak (write?)

it was merely rhetorical because of the langugage of the last paragraph snipped.

I don't think that this is a Jewish issue - merely a nation/nation issue and feel that our goverment should not imbue itself with the ideology of any other nation in its policies and procedures.

[Minstrel Boy]

4. That is the title of the Ha'aretz piece,

and so it must be used according to LBN rules.

But I agree with your point, and it can't be repeated often enough.

[Junkdrawer]

6. Seems to me that Ha'aretz wants to confuse the two. I wonder why...

:think:

[Minstrel Boy]

7. That's an excellent observation. n/t

[durutti]

8. It's the headline -- from an Israeli newspaper. n/t

[IndianaGreen]

9. Ha'aretz is an Israeli newspaper

They don't seem to suffer from the sensibilities of well-conditioned Americans who are so fearful of saying anything that may be critical of Israel and her American friends.

[OilemFirchen]

12. Bullshit. They're looking to inflame.

They could have just as easily said "Israeli" influence (though that would have been almost as imflammatory), or "Zionist" influence (which is a bit closer to the truth) or, more accurately "Neocon" influence.

They're trying to besmirch U.S. intelligence because they don't like this investigation (if it actually exists, BTW). They're spouting the Likudnik/Bush line and forcing an echo by attempting to enrage Jews worldwide.

This Jew has seen it a million times before. Right-wingers always nuance semantics to achieve their nefarious goals. Think of "Elite New York Liberals", for example...

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

13. Ka_CHING! It's what this admin is so good at: The ol' bait and switch.

God, I'm so tired of this shit. Someone tell them to get a new game so they can at least keep it interesting.

[Longhorn79]

18. Hey, I saw that campaign link you've got

b/c I recognized that Mitakides name, and I figured it out. My wife went to high school with Jane Mitakides' daughter. My wife and I both did our undergrads at University of Dayton, and she went to Alter, so that's why.

[yardwork]

24. Thank you! I think you are absolutely correct

[JerseygirlCT]

26. Thank you! Exactly my thought! THAT'S when the charges of anti-

semitism begin -- when people confuse a religion with a nation.

[DuaneBidoux]

3. Someone needs to make sure far-right sites get this link

This is the kind of stuff that could be great for Nazis who pretend to be Republicans (and NO that is NOT the entire party). There really is a small fringe element that will vote for Bush but believe in all this "The Jews control the government bs." They don't have a clue tha Neocons are actually running the White House and that Neocons actuall DO have a connection, fairly closely, with the inner circle of Israeli gov. We need to peal them away from Bush. This could work.

[Junkdrawer]

5. Posted in wrong spot

[anarchy1999]

10. Wrong spot? Not this time!!!

NOt this time. This is front page, LBN and General Discussion, not to be relegated to the Mid-Eastern affairs forum. Not this time. Oh no, not this time!!! This is front page and center.

[Junkdrawer]

11. No. I posted a reply in the wrong spot....

:)

[many a good man]

14. Who i s Bush* taking orders from: Israelis or Saudis?!

I don't know but he sure the hell ain't workin' for me!

[AnnInLa]

17. In all seriousness, I wish someone would explain

this, in great detail, to me too. (Who is bu$h working for, the Israelis or the Saudis?) I mean really, I don't understand all this!

[many a good man]

19. Peace is not in the plan

Bush, the Saudis, Likud, Arafat all have a great big stake in perpetuating conflict. They need conflict to stay in power. Peace is the last thing they want...

[AnnInLa]

25. Can you expand that a little bit.....

Are you implying (like Ayn Rand) a world-wide corporate conspiracy to control the economies of the world with a succession of wars....and is Saudi Arabia and Israel controlled by this conspiracy? I just still see a huge conundrum in our thinking here...bu$h controlled/influenced by Israeli-operatives or Saudi royal family? Aren't their aims directly opposed to each other? Namely, the ultimate destruction/survival of Israel? Am sure not up on my political science, but would love to understand.

[yardwork]

23. The simple answer appears to be "both"

The Bush family works for anybody and everybody who will provide them with money and power.

That's all they care about - money and power.

[Thor_MN]

21. Which way is the wind blowing?

The Cheneying pig will take it from whoever he can get it from and then take some more from the other side.

[LauraK]

22. bush works for the military industrial complex/oil industries.

Follow the money within his regime and his alliences make sence. Give him a drink and you will no doubt find a racist, white supremist.

Deconstructing White Supremist, Capitilistic, Patriarchy

[goforit]

15. Ahhhhh....Bush's "FBI" is checking up on the Jewish influence........

This has got to be the joke of the year!!!

Yah let those dumb ass Repugs believe everything they hear.

The biggest laugh of all has been to watch Bush and Cheney and Rove
pull the wool over all those honkydory, dorky republicans eyes!!!

May the sheep follow their cult leaders off the bridge!!!!

[mmonk]

16. I never knew the Likud party

of Israel stood for all of Judaism. You learn something everyday.

[drscm]

20. An FBI investigation in *bush world is as useless as...

put your favorite metaphor here.