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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:32 PM
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Giuliani says Kerry not up to job of commander in chief
Giuliani says Kerry not up to job of commander in chief

RON FOURNIER, AP Political Writer
Monday, August 30, 2004


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(08-30) 15:59 PDT NEW YORK (AP) --

Leading a night of attack, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Democrat John Kerry owns a "record of inconsistent positions" on war, terror and others issues where President Bush has led, warning that this is no time to change course.

"President Bush sees world terrorism for the evil that it is. John Kerry has no such clear, precise and consistent vision," Giuliani said in remarks prepared for delivery on the opening night of the Republican National Convention.

Giuliani was given a major speaking role to help remind voters of Bush's leadership after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, which won Bush praise and the highest approval ratings of his presidency. The former mayor had another chore: Tell voters Kerry is not capable of such leadership.

Even as his praised Kerry's service in the Vietnam War, Giuliani said, "It is important to see the contrast in approach between the two men: President Bush, a leader who is willing to stick with difficult decisions even as public opinion shifts, and John Kerry, whose record in elected office suggests a man who changes his position on even important issues."

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:33 PM
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1. Rudy, Rudy, Rudy.
You make a dreadful manwhore.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:33 PM
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2. Here we go, hold on to your barf bags.
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:34 PM
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3. Here's the full speech
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 06:34 PM by rawstory
Raw Story had advance copy: http://rawstory.com

Here's a direct link: http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=274

We also have the full McCain speech: http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=273
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:36 PM
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4. And you Rudy, are not fit to run a hamster wheel, much less a city.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:37 PM
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5. Cleary Giuliani has no political aspirations of his own.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 06:37 PM by HuckleB
He just blew every ounce of goodwill that he had been given via 9/11, by offering a speech of deception and lies about a man that everyone except the foolish hardcore knows is nothing but a sleazeball.

Another career down the drain. Bye, bye, Rudy!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:42 PM
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7. he's one of the GOP's biggest hypocrites
I can't get over the fact that he had an extramarital affair (just like Clinton), and yet he was spared from the moral witch-hunt.
Fuckin' hypocrites, the lot of them. :mad: :mad:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:44 PM
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9. Indeed.
And a much more frequent and public affair to boot.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:46 PM
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10. The worst part
He went to court to demand that he be allowed to move his mistress to the house with his wife and kids. :puke:
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:59 PM
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18. And also
notified his wife of his intentions to divorce her via a press conference.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:01 PM
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19. I almost forgot about that bit
There's Repuke family values for you.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:47 PM
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11. seriously, did ANY republicans condemn him?
Un-be-lievable.
Rudy, IMO, did a fantastic job on 9/11. But he's not fit to run as President.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 10:00 PM
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29. I wonder why he was so prepared. It's almost like he knew!
Don't let these monsters fool you. You are believeing the media propaganda. He was like FEMA...a little too on-the-job, so to speak (FEMA arrived on September 10th...Oops!).
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:57 PM
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16. He also married his 2nd cousin
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:58 PM
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17. GET. OUT.
Are you kidding?? OMG...:puke:
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:02 PM
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20. From 1968 to 1982
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:04 PM
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wow
That I did not know. Thanks for the info.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:10 PM
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25. I belive his father was a petty criminal too
not trying to jump all over Rudy here but I recall that his dad was arrested multiple times for various low level types of crimes.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:04 PM
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21. Wife #1 was his 2nd cousin
They were married for 14 years and then St. Rudy managed to get it annulled because of some loophole in Catholic marriage doctrine...I think it was something about them not getting special permission to marry which they needed because they were cousins.

Cue banjos.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:29 PM
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26. You mean RC frown on even 2nd cousin marriages?
Didn't know that
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:11 PM
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23. Plus he had two young children
that he did all of this in front of.

He even went prancing down 5th Ave. in the St. Patrick's Day Parade, with his girlfriend, before he broke up with his wife.

Nice guy.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:37 PM
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6. Contrast: Kerry worked to shut down terrorist banks while Bush did deals
with them.

Bush made big money off Salem Bin Laden while Kerry's efforts put Bin Laden under arrest.

Guess Giuliani never heard of BCCI and IranContra?

Kerry was working against terrorism while the Reagan and Bush adninistration and all the Bush cronies dealing with the dirty banks worked to thwart Kerry's efforts. And Kerry was working against terrorism LONG before Giuliani OR any other bushmoonie ever mentioned the word terrorism.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:42 PM
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8. Giuliani
Another sleazbag trying to cash in on death.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:48 PM
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12. clear: cannot win war on terror? consistent: catastrophic success?
bush is all over the map. his communication skills are zero... no, make that negative.

how is it that he can project a clear, consistent vision when he can't even get his talking points right? rove must be living on Tums.
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:49 PM
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13. Yeah Rudy
A guy who received Purple Hearts for his service in Vietnam is just no match for an AWOL cokehead cheerleader.

Fuck you Rudy.

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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:10 PM
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34. continue rant: Ya, fuck you Rudee!
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 11:11 PM by sfg25
Some fcuking leadership.

Lie about this, lie about that, change the reason for this, change the reason for that.

No one in their right mind would call that leadership except for those shithead repukes.

Burn in hell Rudee.

And welcome to DU StefanX!:hi:
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:50 PM
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14. After the Last Four Years of the Experiment......
how could anyone be less "up to the job"!
:kick:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:54 PM
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15. Kerry is certainly not capable of sitting around with a Goat story
and it'll be a damn good thing when he replaces Bush.
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:04 PM
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22. And we're supposed to think Bush IS?
Kerry is so far above that puffball in fake cowboy boots that it's pathetic.

I just read the real story of Bush's speech on the rubble--he got up there and started his usual spiel, and the firefighters couldn't hear him, so they were yelling, "We can't hear you," for him to talk louder.

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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:24 PM
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24. How about when he tried to hang onto his job after 9/11
when his successor had already been elected? He wanted to stay on the job another 6 months because nobody else could possibly have done the job.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:35 PM
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27. Gulianni also permitted the Cops to kill innocent black men too!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:37 PM
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28. Rudy, king of the chickenhawks.
Shut up you hypocrite.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 10:11 PM
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30. I love how the repukes trot out
so-called "moderates" like Giuliani and Ahnold in a pathetic attempt to fool the sheep into thinking Bushco are a bunch of nice-guy centrists. Sort of like the Godfather sending Tom Hagen as a front man, while Luca Brazzi hides in the shadows.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 10:48 PM
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31. Yep, being Governor of Texas prepared Bush for 9/11...right, Rudy?
"willing to stick with difficult decisions even as public opinion shifts"

1). Tax breaks for his "base"

2). Big rewards for companies who outsource

3). The difficult decision of occupying Iraq because Saddam tried to hurt pappy

4). The difficult decision to keep reading "My Pet Goat" as commercial airliners slammed into the World Trade Center and The Pentagon.

5). The difficult decision of having propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels...I mean "political advisor Karl Rove"...assemble and arrange financing for a group of "truth-telling" vets in order to smear the military record of his opponent, which remains in stark contrast to his own AWOL misadventures.

6). The difficult decision to make sure that any and all incriminating records related to his AWOL past are destroyed prior to the election's home stretch.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 10:54 PM
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32. Most people don't understand what Commander-in-Chief means!
It was put in the Constitution to insure that the military, which was never intended to be a large standing army, would forever be under civilian control.

It has nothing to do with being a veteran, or having a military background, or being a military strategist!

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:05 PM
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33. Let's not forget Rudy's 991 Fund shenanigans.............

http://www.gothamcenter.org/alerts/giuliani/news/wontletgo.shtml


Recent News Articles on Giuliani's Papers

NEWSDAY Feb. 8, 2002
Rudy Just Won't Let Go
by Ellis Henican

Look who's clinging to the chandeliers now.

And it isn't Donna Hanover.

Raoul Felder, eat your words!

Rudy Giuliani is 39 days out of office. Or so the calendar says. The new guy has moved his fish tanks and his bullpen into City Hall. Gracie Mansion is a B&B. But it's not the ex-mayor's almost-ex-wife who's having trouble letting go, as Rudy's loud-mouthed divorce lawyer so colorfully predicted a few months ago.

It's Rudy himself who is hanging stubbornly around.

Why let a little thing like a new mayor put an end to Giuliani Time? Rudy is truly the 800-pound tenant who won't move out when the lease is up.

So now we have the spectacle of private-citizen Giuliani claiming that he - not City Hall - should control the assets of the $100-million Twin Towers Fund.

That big pile of money, raised from decent people around the world, was being distributed to the families of dead firefighters and police officers from Sept. 11.

You have to say "was being distributed." The flow has stopped so Attorney General Eliot Spitzer can investigate the latest Rudy grab. He's trying to hijack the fund right out of City Hall (the New York City Public and Private Initiative) - and turn every last cent into his own private charity. Private-citizen Giuliani, no longer elected to anything, will decide when, where and how the money gets spent.

What gives him the right? Well, he has some friends who say its OK with them.

Judith Nathan is on the board of directors. She's the married ex-mayor's current girlfriend. She doesn't mind.

Neither does Rudy's actor-pal, Arnold Schwarzenegger. He's on the board too. Arnold's new terrorist movie, "Collateral Damage," has outraged the very cop and fire families the committee was created to support. Rudy graced the opening-night bash.

And you should see the salaries some of the staff members will earn. Oh, they're friends of Rudy's. Don't worry about that. My Newsday colleague Stephanie Saul lays out the big-dollar details today.

But honestly, who could be surprised by any of this?

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:18 PM
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35. Rudy wants Cheney's job.
Hey Rudy! Sneer's not going anywhere until Turd Blossom says it's time. Then you can start the kissy-kiss on Bush's arse.

BTW: How's your ex-wife doing these days? Is she the second or third one?
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