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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:19 AM
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"Good Will Come Out Of This" (Pickles supports SBVT)
TIME
Do you think these swift-boat ads are unfair to John Kerry?

BUSH
Do I think they're unfair? Not really. There have been millions of terrible ads against my husband.



http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101040906-689398,00.html

Drudge linked to this. Isn't that sweet, terrible yettruthful ads about her husband justify a lying smear against his opponent. Maybe the movie Stepford Wives wasn't fiction?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:20 AM
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1. GW hiding behind Laura's skirt. Shameless.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:20 AM
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2. I've grown to truly dislike her.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:21 AM
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3. Laura Bush
:puke: the one and only response I will ever have to that woman. :puke:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:22 AM
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4. What a Fucking Dumbshit!
Good..picklebrain is on record saying the lying adnauseams are not unfair. Take that back to crawford with you, scumartist.
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:26 AM
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5. It's becoming easier for me to believe...
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 10:27 AM by GainesT1958
That killing someone in a car accident really meant nothing to her!:mad:

Obviously, people dying because of a lack of stem cell tissue to save them means nothing to her, either.:grr:

Truly a "plastic woman", if ever there was one!

Boy, it's going to be great to get T.H.K. into the job of First Lady..."Pickles" really IS a "Stepford Wife" of the lowest order!:puke:

B-)
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:57 AM
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53. Actually she takes it to another level Stepford Wife to the 3rd power =
Crawford Wife!
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:26 AM
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6. They'd be playing sounds of a car crash,every time her name..
is mentioned if she were a democrat,on the right wing republican infomercial radio.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:27 AM
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7. It was "unfair" when Scumbag Laura killed her boyfriend
.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:30 AM
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8. millions of terrible ads
I do think Pickles needs help with her mathematical calculations....
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:31 AM
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9. Welcome to the rumble, Laura!
I've tried to leave you and your daughters out of the line of fire around here, bit this is the last straw. You've just waded into the water, so you better be able to swim.

Do you know why there are so many terrible ads against your husband? Because he has done so many TERRIBLE things! D'uh!

Not one of the "terrible" ads against your husband was false.

The SBVT ads are unfair because they are untrue! Got it?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:44 AM
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13. What you said.
I totally agree. Pickles should go suck on a pickle (or something/one).
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 01:21 PM
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30. "Millions" of terrible ads?
How in the hell could there have been "millions" of ads against anyone, ever? She certainly has a gift for exaggeration and for endorsing lies against her husband's opponent. What a pill she is.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:37 AM
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10. I used to just feel sorry for her...
now I just think she's another GOP whore (disclaimer: the term whore is not gender exclusive) who has sold her soul for the glory of the reich.

She makes me sick :puke:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:40 AM
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11. What a classless woman.
Couldn't dubya find another transplanted yankee like himself?

Of course, that wouldn't help with the classlessness.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:41 AM
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12. Fuck you bitch
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:46 AM
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14. But shouldn't we "leave her out of this"???
I've read countless posts here on DU criticizing us who comment on Pickels' comments like this, and her in general. Considering her totally uninformed stances and poor use of rhetoric ("millions" is somehting an 8th grader would use in a debate, not a grown adult spouse of a politician).
As far as I'm concerned, she's fair game. She's a politican's spouse, and making comments like this show her to be the Stepford-type clone that she is. So, no, I don't feel like I'm stooping to "their" level by calling her an idiot. I'm just telling the truth.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:39 AM
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19. I have never understood why she should be declared off limits when
Theresa Hienz Kerry has taken every low blow in the book. And nothing Theresa has said has been shown to be silly bullshit, which happens every time Pickles opens her mouth.

I truly believe some good can come of this though. That is if and when her hubby's service (or rather lack of) starts getting the air time that it truly deserves. Walt Starr, a now infamous member of a pro-Kerry website most certainly did his part. Now if only more of that type of 'news' can get some air time, there certainly will be some good coming out of this issue. The only thing that really pisses me off about it is that it's going to detract from what the real issues in this campaign should be about. But if this is what the idiots in this country focus on, I say go for it.

bush* was AWOL. bush* got caught wearing a medal he didn't deserve. The cowards that make up the bush* administration all got deferments so that they wouldn't have to serve, and these are the men sending other men and women to die for their nefarious schemes of Middle East domination (which ain't gonna happen).

The woman is now fair game for everyone. She asked for it.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 12:48 PM
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28. Not after this!
Sorry, Laura. You waded in with both feet and you smeared yourself from head to foot with the bullshit these RW-financed liars have been churning out for the last two weeks. You are now a target, and I hope you and hubby, as public figures, get good and used to it.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:48 AM
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15. Guess what, fool. Your husband is a terrible man. Deal with it!
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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:09 AM
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16. I've come to the conclusion that if her husband had not come from a family
with so much wealth and power, she would have dumped him at least 20 years ago, if she would have been attracted to him at all.

She just acts like a zombie, spouting off statements with no substance.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:12 AM
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17. That Lying "Lump in the Bed" supports LIARS....couldn't be
Shocking news that one LIAR supports a group of LIARS She as much as admitted to Lying on National TV about Bush*'s romantic poem he left her on her pillow. After a month of big news about Bush* the poet she said it wasn't true and that he had never written her any poem. I guess she wrote it herself or Karen Hughes wrote it but the one thing we know is that Bush* did not write the poem and yet they/she said he did for over a month. LIARS
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 04:13 PM
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38. she also lied when she said her daughters had "distinguished"
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 04:21 PM by Marianne
college careers and she also lied when she said Jenna was going to be a teacher aide for the fourth grade in some Harlem charter school. Jenna never filled out an application. Spokespersons for the school said they never interviewed her and never saw her, and others objected to her employment there due to her lax morals.

Then she said that Jenna was having such a good time on the campaign that she would not be going to teach in Harlem

I have always known the build up to Laura, a total airheaded woman, was a manufacturing job, calculated to pushing her onto the campaign trail as the perfect little wifey and meanwhile she has not done a damn thing for the country but sponge off our money. I said it here many times. I saw what was coming rather than being just a catty person.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:34 AM
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47. She also lied about telling W to quit drinking
During the puff piece on CNN last night, supposedly at some point she told W, "It's either Johnny Walker or Me." When someone asked W about it afterward, he said it never happened. Then Laura admitted that she had made it up.

Lying seems to be a pattern of behavior for her.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 08:11 AM
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48. Wow. These lies need to be documented.
Meanwhile, Bush, despite all his money, is a low class fool drinking shit like Johnny Walker.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:31 AM
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18. Yes, Laura dear, some good IS liable to come out of this.
Or maybe that'd be LIBEL?

People will start to get tired of it. If the Swifties keep up, more and more stories, and eyewitness testimonials, will inevitably surface to disprove the accusations - further tarnishing the Swifties' "credibility." And ultimately, it will backfire on your darling, sainted husband, BIGTIME. There WILL be ultimate good to come out of this: YOU BOTH will wind up moving back to Crawford MUCH sooner than you expected.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:41 AM
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20. She is such a zero compared to Theresa and Hillary. Just a zero.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:48 AM
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21. Here's something good -- the Truth.
Pickles, your husband really did go AWOL. He really did run every business he had into the ground and got bailed out every time by his daddy's rich friends. He really did steal an election. He really was Kenny Boy Lay's ENRON buddy. He really was incomeptent -- at best -- when warned of Al Qaeda's imminent attacks. He failed to catch his former business partner alleged responsible for the terror. He really did start an illegal war. He really is nothing more than a little turd from Crawford. Would that people spent millions getting the word out.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:58 AM
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22. and further more.... isn't it refreshing that you tarnish
not only Senator Kerry, but each and every veteran who earned honors for the same events. Isn't it refreshing that you believe that it is just to question the documented honors of those who served while your husband and his cronies didn't. Isn't it refreshing to understand that you agree that each and every veteran serving honorably in Iraq today - at your husbands demand - will risk having their honorable acts tarnished in the future by cheap political smears at the hands of those who cowardly send them to war but refuse to go themselves or send their own children.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 12:07 PM
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23. Another zombie strung out on ambien (or some other prescription med)
Pity and disgust is the appropriate response. Can I manage the pity?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 12:13 PM
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24. This is the fruit of Laura Bush's life

A spoil little girl in a womens' body
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 12:29 PM
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26. Now THERE'S one mom who's done a great job...
I pity the guy(s) she eventually marries. Wonder how many marriages she'll drink/trash her way through?
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 12:27 PM
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25. Max, write another letter!
Maybe Cleland can make a return visit to Crawford, this time with a letter for Pickles!

Wonder if she'd hide from him too!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 12:43 PM
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27. "millions?"
n/t
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 12:55 PM
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29. "There have been millions of terrible ads against my husband"
Yes, this is true, but they have all told the truth. The swift-boat ads are all lies. I used to admire her somewhat, not anymore.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 01:22 PM
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31. the title is correct... some good might come of it...
as more coverage of the ties between the swiftsmearers and the bush campaign come to light... and more coverage of the nature of the LIES come to light - more of the public will see the light/truth behind the ugly effort ... and it will begin to have a bigger and bigger blowback effect.

Imagine, if back in 1992, a growing number of stories made it into mainstream media about the Arkansas Project... suddenly THAT would have become the story - and all each of the "next" bullshit story the peddled would be immediately discredited and viewed as even more slimy than the last one.

So if these swiftsmearers believe they need to keep pushing their tired lible - even as a blowback begins - then may they do it long enough for the blowback to fully disclose from where the smear emanated (ROVE and W)... and for that blowback to start to discredit their other lies/efforts.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 01:27 PM
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32. That's Stepford Ho Laura!
:puke:

:grr:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 01:59 PM
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33. Laura should stick to things she knows about--like vehicular homicide. n/t
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bringbackfdr Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:07 PM
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34. Frauds marry frauds
Laura Bush is no more or less a conniving, lying, generally disgusting human being than her husband.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 02:59 PM
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35. From the article:
TIME
As an ex-smoker, have you been able to keep your girls from becoming smokers?

BUSH
I'm not so sure about that.

TIME
Are you still tempted?

BUSH
Sure, of course. It's very difficult to quit.

TIME
Any particular times?

BUSH
And especially if you're under a lot of stress. I'm not saying that I am.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:54 AM
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52. I caught that part
Once again she lies.

You can tell she still smokes. She got the wrinkled upper lip of a lifelong smoker and her voice sounds like an aging smoker.

But of course, why should the First Lady of the most coorupt administration in history, ever feel stressed?

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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:13 PM
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36. 'good' is ANYTHING
that will help her idiotic hubby, that's repuke 'logic'. x(
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:56 PM
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37. Of course she supports SBVT,
In her younger days she was always excited when she heard the fleet was in.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 04:15 PM
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39. Laura also killed her ex-boyfreind too.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 04:18 PM
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40. Saw a good sign today from the protest
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 04:27 PM by Marianne
"Me: Proud daughter of a Vietnam Vet

Jenna Bush : Proud daughter of a deserter"

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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 04:40 PM
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41. Reuters has it, too. With oh so careful headline - but there it is.
Anti-Kerry Ads Not Unfair, Laura Bush Says

Sun Aug 29, 2004 03:01 PM ET


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - First lady Laura Bush said on Sunday that campaign advertisements accusing Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry of lying about his Vietnam War record were fair.

In an interview with Time magazine released on Sunday, Mrs. Bush said ads by a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth criticizing Kerry were no different from attack ads that have been aimed at President Bush.

"Do I think they're unfair? Not really. There have been millions of terrible ads against my husband," Mrs. Bush told Time.

The Kerry campaign criticized Mrs. Bush's remarks and accused the Bush organization of coordinating with the Swift Boat Veterans, which is barred under campaign finance rules.

"Mrs. Bush's statement in support of the Swift Boat smear ads is more sad evidence that these attacks have been coordinated from the top down at the White House," Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said.

more
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=6096970

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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:29 PM
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42. I always thought,
politically she was just as radical right-wing as her husband. She would only try to look more moderate to get women voters. A fascade of saccharine to hide corporate fascist politics. Funny nobody asked her "if you thought it was fair, why did your husband refute the ad".
Could it be it was a puton?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 08:20 PM
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54. So? did she teach her twins it was and is okay to lie and smear ?
Without the bush name she would be nothing and she knows it. Typical republican values.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:34 PM
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43. i think she just doesn't get how terribly devisive and destructive her
husband is. she's like a mafia wife with blinders on.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:38 PM
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44. Just saw her spewing her bs
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 07:38 PM by mountainvue
on CNN. She is just as evil and complicit as he is.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:39 PM
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45. The ones against HIM are terrible because they're TRUE ...
... bitch.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:28 AM
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46. She amounts to nothing
What is Laura's legacy to the country? After reading about past First ladies, she has little to contribute but her half-assed attempt at literacy...

And in terms of parenting girls...she needs to take lessons from Hillary....
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 08:49 AM
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49. How would she like this 527's ads: Swift Pedestrians For Truth
Maybe Bob Dole could come on TV and say that the guy she ran over didn't even bleed or that he ran over himself with her car. Or maybe he might say John Kerry cut her brakes because he knew he'd be running for President against her husband someday.

Reciprocity makes it fair, right? After all Republicans have said all kinds of terrible things about Teresa Heinz Kerry. I think something good will come out of this, Peaches.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:19 AM
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50. Her boyfriend was also driving a car when she ran a stop sign
and he was in a Corvair!!! No wonder Nader wanted to help Bush! It wasn't Laura's fault her boyfriend was "unsafe at any speed"!

http://www.oaoa.com/news/nw050400b.htm
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:26 AM
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51. Well then, lets start the Madame Laura, DWI smear ads.
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