French Suspended (OR swiftboat liar)

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August 27, 2004
French Suspended
By Nick Voll

Oregon City -
The Clackamas County Prosecutor who appeared in an ad against John Kerry has been suspended from his job, but not for speaking out. Al French has been the target of local protests after his appearance in a political ad questioning the the Democratic candidate's war record.

On Thursday he was placed on leave by the Clackamas County District Attorney's office. It wasn't for his statements against Kerry, but for lying about an extra-marital affair. Reports say French misled his former boss ten years ago to avoid getting fired.

French has faced a great deal of scrutiny since the ad first aired, with veterans calling for his resignation. He said in the spot that he had served with John Kerry, and that Kerry exaggerated his war record. He also signed an affidavit, swearing to tell the truth during the taping. French later admitted he had not served with Kerry, but relied on accounts from his friends.

That irked local veterans, who complained to the Oregon Bar Association. They say French violated his duty as a state official by lying on the affidavit, and can no longer be trusted.



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[shaolinmonkey]

1. Ah the moral clarity of the Republican party...

BWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[oneighty]

2. People that live in glass houses

should not throw stones (or lie either).

180

[UpInArms]

3. the old infidelity and lying routine

that the reich-wingers denounce - glass houses shattered by their own bombs.

[Bo]

4. Good post, I was wondering

how it was going to end.

[MrBenchley]

5. Guess he wouldn't "resign with honor"

Ironic, eh? A guy who lied about stuff that happened 35 years ago loses his job for lying about something else that happened 10 years ago.

By the way, the question that hits me now is, if he lied ten years ago, why was he kept on the job for ten years?

[WhereIsMyFreedom]

37. Same question I have

Why does his lie 10 years ago come up now? It seems like a strange coincidence. I suspect they agreed he should be fired but didn't want it to be a political thing so they dredged up another reason.

[UTUSN]

6. Bwahahah, Commence the Swiftbot Circular Firing Squad n/t

[DeepModem Mom]

7. Attempting to ruin another man, he's ruined himself --

there's some kind of justice in that, seems to me.

[alarcojon]

10. Big time!

[City Lights]

29. Why so many people are willing to lie to prop up the chimp

is what I'll never understand.

[0rganism]

50. Easy answer: ideology and payback

Remember, the bush family prizes and rewards the loyalty of its shills and stool pigeons. French could have been on the short list for a nice sinecure in the second term, or maybe some Halliburton stock options that would set him up for life.

And there's also the possibility that French just hates Kerry for the Winter Soldier testimony. It's not uncommon.

[johnfunk]

8. Don't blame me for a big case of Smear Boat Liar Schadenfreude!

It's that great big "Lazt Susan of Karma": what goes around, comes around -- and in this case it couldn't be more well-deserved.

Here's hoping the lying little shit is disbarred too.

[yellowcanine]

9. Blowback is a bitch - "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first

we practice to deceive."

Isn't O'Neil vulnerable as well to sanctions by the Texas Bar for false affadavits regarding the Cambodia caper?

[markses]

11. By lying in an affidavit, he violated his duty as an officer of the court

There can be little doubt about that. He should be fired.

Here's a clue to GOPers: telling the truth fucking matters. As you folks used to say, it's about the LYING.

[SoCalDem]

12. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

serves him right..

These freaks think they can just shoot their mouths off without anyone challenging them ..

\Maybe ole Ginsburg will hire him:)

[ibegurpard]

13. Here's the article from the Oregonian:

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/front_page/109360837947360.xml

"Clackamas County prosecutor Alfred French, who called Sen. John Kerry a liar in a political commercial, acknowledged Thursday that he lied to his boss when confronted about an extramarital affair with a colleague.

Hours later, the Clackamas County district attorney's office said French had been placed on a 30-day paid leave while it conducts an investigation into his conduct.

French's former boss, James O'Leary, said he asked French about the rumored affair with a secretary about 10 years ago, but French denied it. O'Leary said he would have fired French if he'd admitted the relationship because it violated office policy."

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[dryan]

15. Somehow get this information....

to national news media and MSNBC and Tim Russert.

[leesa]

27. They have the information. They won't report it though.

Or if they do it will be a one-liner somewhere.

[ljm2002]

14. Ah, sweet Schadenfreude...

...although it's annoying that it's over something that happened 10 years ago, and not his more recent caper of LYING on a SWORN AFFIDAVIT... looks like the District Attorney's office is afraid to make a call on the current situation with Mr. French... whatever happened to the simple notions of "right & wrong", and the "rule of law"??? Moral clarity, anyone??? I ask ya...

[Libby2]

16. Perfect !!

The lying slimeball.

[Gothmog]

17. Yeah

On another thread, a large number of DUers were sending in e-mails to the DA and getting some canned responses. After a while, the DA started stating that there would be no specific response. These DUers may have made a difference.
Yeah. Good job.

[thecrow]

18. We haven't won yet...

all he got is basically a paid vacation while the investigation goes forward.
Hopefully, the investigation will address the affadavit as well.
This sick lying fuck gets a paid vacation? For adultery?
I don't see this as a plus.
We must press the Oregon Bar for results on the affadavit.

[swag]

19. At least the man's sartorial sense is unimpeachable

[SoCalDem]

24. Geez-Louise.. he looks like Chad Everett

[DoYouEverWonder]

20. Isn't it great

how Rove and Bush have managed to turn veteran against veteran.

In the meantime, everyone is so busy attacking each other, while they continue to get away with murder.

[joefree1]

22. Most divided country since the Civil War

That's how I start every discussion with a rethuglican.


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[leesa]

28. Yup. That's the point. That's why I think Kerry should just stop

responding to it. He's made his case. He is being vindicated in a thousand different ways.
He needs to focus on the issues Bush is trying to hide with this non-issue.

[DoYouEverWonder]

34. That's what Kerry has been doing

It is the media and the rest of us that have been all over this Swift Boat thing.

However, that is not to say Kerry shouldn't confront this fiasco or question Bu$h about his involvement with the group and how they came to be and who is behind them. If Kerry and the rest of us, handle this right, we can use his exploitation of these vets to our advantage.

[MikeG]

21. How about suspending him for looking dorky?

[gatlingforme]

23. A D/A lying.... unbelievable!!! This is just a nightmare...

[Hepburn]

26. You know how to tell when a DA is lying?

His lips are moving...or in the case of French, he signs an affidavit.

[gatlingforme]

39. LOL, I like dumb DAs sometimes, they are hilarious.

[leesa]

25. Ten years ago?? Boy, they had to dig deep for THAT one

Right. NOT because thousands of people demanded his resignation for slander.

[Rose Siding]

30. Musta been some light bulb moment

"Oh, yeah...now I remember! I wanted to suspend you before- forgot all about it" D'oh

[ignatius 2]

31. You all helped with this. They are using the excuse of an affair 10

years ago, but I would bet that all the e-mails sent about this lying bag of dirt on his affadavit is the real story.

Thing is, it is only a 30 day suspension, what will happen when the story falls off the radar screen?

Let's all try to remember to check on this in a few weeks.

Power in numbers, you guys rock!!!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

35. I'm not interested in getting old vets fired

I'd much rather fire George Bush.

Check back in a few months and we'll see what happens.

[ignatius 2]

38. I couldn't agree more, however, seeing a lying sack of dog

crap being held personally responsible and of the repuglican faith would be a nice change of pace.

[sattahipdeep]

41. What would a judge say about that?

besides......was this an "affair" or something else?

After all he was her boss.

One lie, two lies. What's the difference.

[sattahipdeep]

40. Let me see if I understand this correctly.

A person who is sworn to uphold the law lies on an affadavit.

This same person is given a "paid" 30 day leave of absence for
an affair 10 years ago.

Sounds like a reward rather than a penalty to me. :puke:

I thought the DAs office was to represent the state and was
not above the law. Guess I must be mistaken. :shrug:


"Someone the community trusts," says veteran Don Stewart, "cannot be lying in
sworn affidavits."

French has yet to make a public statement about the controversy, but his boss has
released a statement supporting him.

come on......this guy is suppose to represent the public against the "bad guys"
vet or not... he lied [e-mail] :eyes:

[DoYouEverWonder]

42. I never did understand why getting suspended

was considered a punishment? Once you got past the beating your parents might give you, then you had the rest of the day off. What a deal.

[sattahipdeep]

46. How about criminals fired

Isn't it a crime what he did?

Against Kerry?

[sattahipdeep]

36. Department Mission/Purpose

"Someone the community trusts," says veteran Don Stewart, "cannot be lying in
sworn affidavits."

French has yet to make a public statement about the controversy, but his boss has
released a statement supporting him.

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[GoBlue]

32. He should have changed his name to Al Freedom

If he was a real patriot.

[stevedeshazer]

33. Nice one! n/t

[Democat]

43. How many times did he lie to judges? How many cases compromised?

Someone should investigate his condudct in the court room and see if he's as honest there as he has been outside.

Probably as corrupt as they come.

[stevedeshazer]

44. He was the lead prosecutor in a double-murder case

Two girls, aged twelve and thirteen. :(

[GOPAgainstGW]

45. WHAT'S THAT SMELL & FLUSHING SOUND I HEAR

[dogtag]

47. paid one month leave

sounds like a vacation to me. Am I missing something?

[skip fox]

48. Swift Boat resource file at DU:

A solid overview of the Swift Boat Story including

I. Introduction and History of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (hereafter SBVT)

II. Recent Accounts of Other Swift Boat Vets and Others
--a. Vets Who Were Actually with Kerry Contradicting the SBVT
--b. People with Special Information Contradicting SBVT
--c. New Vets Contradicting Kerry

III. New Charges against Kerry About his Service

IV. Changes or Qualifications in Stories of Individual SBVT

V. Points of Collusion Between Republicans and the SBVT

Broken into separate posts (for ease of jumping) and all with easy-to-use hot links:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x70318

Please inform me of new stories and links as they occur and I'll up-date this on Monday or Tuesday. (Sooner if some SBVT stories break over the weekend.

[struggle4progress]

49. kick for sleazy Republican liars

:kick:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

51. Now THIS is the only kind of French bashing I can support!

;)

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

52. Official Schadenfreude Kick:

The following "Ha Ha" is delivered in a spirit of contempt and derision to the subject of the thread, and is not to be mistaken for humorous sympathy at his plight.


HA HA!

[Julian English]

53. More Bad News For French--State Bar Ethics Investigation

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1093521512261850.xml

Yup, the Oregon Bar is investigating Mr. French for ethics violations due to his affidavit. DU members probably among those e-mailing the Bar.

The Oregon State Bar has received several complaints about a Clackamas County prosecutor who said in a sworn affidavit that Sen. John Kerry lied about his Vietnam service, but then said he did not witness the events in question.

A spokeswoman said Wednesday that the bar has received 28 e-mails, calls and letters about Alfred French, a Clackamas County deputy district attorney. French appeared in a national television ad calling Kerry a liar, but later said he was relying on the word of wartime colleagues.

(Snip)

Some of the complaints to the Oregon State Bar accused French of violating legal ethics in signing the affidavit, in which he swore the facts were "within my personal knowledge or belief."

The secretary of state's Election Division also received a complaint about French. Both agencies are conducting investigations, but neither has determined whether the complaints are valid.

Now is the time to go after O'Neill for his ethics violations, such as defamation.