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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:55 AM
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Mark Thatcher: The money trail
But Mann wrote in his signed statement after his arrest. “Ely Calil asked me if I would like to meet Severo Moto ... I met Severo Moto in Madrid. He is clearly a good and honest man. He had studied for the priesthood ... At this stage they asked me if I could help escort Severo Moto home at a given moment while simultaneously there would an uprising of both military and civilians against Obiang ... I agreed to try and help the cause.”

Preparations for the coup were soon set in motion by Mann through two companies based in Guernsey — Logo and Systems Design.

Mann put in $400 000 to cover the cost of a specially converted Boeing 727 purchased a week before the alleged coup attempt from a firm in Kansas.
The M&G has established that the aircraft had been converted for US military use so that it could take off and land on shorter runways. It also had a pressurised cargo hold, which could be accessed during flight.

Final preparations were completed in February. Using his military and arms dealing contacts, Du Toit helped recruit the mercenaries — apartheid-era soldiers in South Africa — and introduced Mann to the head of the Zimbabwean Defence Industry in Harare.
more
http://www.mg.co.za/Content/l3.asp?ao=121194
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:52 AM
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1. This thing is unfolding like a movie.
Go rent "The Dogs of War" with Christopher Walken.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:55 AM
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2. The "Wonga List":
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:11 AM
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11. The doting mother frets over favorite son.LOL!!!..She ordered him!!!
This is all so comical and pathetic.

Reagans/Thatchers/Nixon/Kissinger/BushI/BushII/Cheney/Rumsfeld.....

have got to be the most sorry lot of human beings that
walk this Earth.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:00 AM
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3. Mercenaries, money and political connections
Jamie Wilson and David Pallister
Thursday August 26, 2004
The Guardian
snip:
Simon Mann (51)
The leader of the alleged coup plot in Equatorial Guinea, Simon Mann has spent all of his adult life in the murky worlds of special forces and mercenaries. The son of an England cricket captain who made a fortune from the Watney's brewing empire, Mann followed the establishment route of Eton and Sandhurst before becoming an officer in the SAS. He left the army in the early 1980s, moving into the security business. In 1993 he set up a mercenary outfit, Executive Outcomes, with the controversial entrepreneur Tony Buckingham. It made millions protecting oil installations in Angola from Unita rebels, and operated against insurgents for the Sierra Leone government. A subsidiary company, Sandline International - set up with a former Scots Guard officer, Tim Spicer - famously shipped arms to Sierra Leone in contravention of a UN embargo. Married with several children, Mann has houses on the Solent in Hampshire and close to Mark Thatcher in Cape Town. He is currently residing in a cell in Chikurubi prison outside Harare.

Ely Calil (58)
The Chelsea-based millionaire, who is accused by the Equatorial Guinea government of helping to organise the coup from his home in west London, made his fortune by trading Nigerian oil. During his years in London he developed discreet links with senior Tory and Labour politicians. At one time he was financial adviser to the disgraced Tory peer Lord Archer. In 1999 the then disgraced Peter Mandelson rented one of Calil's luxury flats in Holland Park for a year, shortly before he was rehabilitated as Northern Ireland secretary. In June 2002, Calil was arrested by French police in connection with the payments of millions of pounds in illegal commissions in 1995 by a subsidiary of the French oil giant Elf Aquitaine to the Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha. He was later released on appeal without charge, although the payments are still under investigation. Calil, who has vehemently denied any involvement in the coup plot, has hired British lawyer Imran Khan to fight the high court action brought by the government of Equatorial Guinea.

David Hart (60)
The government of Equatorial Guinea has issued a warrant for the arrest of this Old Etonian businessman with links to the Thatcher family, and claims it has evidence to show he helped to fund the coup plot. Hart was Margaret Thatcher's chief enforcer during the miners' strike - he handed out money to strike breakers from a suite at Claridges - and served as a special adviser to Malcolm Rifkind and Michael Portillo under previous Tory governments, writing the ill-judged Who Dares Wins conference speech. Hart is known to have excellent access to the US administration and worked closely with the former CIA director William Casey in the early and mid-1980s.
More recently he has worked as a middle man for a number of defence contractors, and has even written a play. He lives on a 500-acre estate in Suffolk.

Nick du Toit (48)
A former member of the special forces unit of the South African Defence Force - used by the apartheid government in the fight against the ANC - Du Toit was detained with 14 other men in Equatorial Guinea on suspicion of being the mercenaries' vanguard. After leaving the defence force in the early 1990s, Du Toit is believed to have worked with Mann at Executive Outcomes. He also became involved in business dealings across Africa, including diamond mining in Democratic Republic of Congo and Angola, and fishing rights off the coast. During the 1998 coup attempt in Sierra Leone he was doing diamond deals in the country. Du Toit was arrested in the capital of Equatorial Guinea, Malabo, immediately after the failed coup attempt, and confessed to being part of the plot. His wife, who lives in South Africa, claimed afterwards that he had been tortured.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/equatorialguinea/story/0,15013,1291456,00.html



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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:19 AM
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12. Emad....Thanks!!!.....Nick du Toit (lol) diamond connection to Bush Sr.?
Yep.....just follow the money.

Their all caught RED HANDED!!!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:24 AM
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13. Barrick Mining
War is Golden for the Bush Administration
And the commodities connection? President Pretzel's relentless hissy-fit for war on Iraq has of course goosed the price of gold enormously--and that's set Bush Family coffers a-clinking. How so? In the waning days of his failed presidency, Bush I invoked an obscure 1872 statute to give a Canadian firm, Barrick Corporation, the right to mine $10 billion in gold from U.S. public lands. (U.S. taxpayers got a whopping $10,000 fee in return.) Bush then joined Barrick as a highly-paid "international consultant," brokering deals with various dictators of his close acquaintance. Barrick reciprocated with big bucks for Junior's presidential run. And in another quid for the old pro quo, last year Junior dutifully approved Barrick's controversial acquisition of a major rival. (Barrick is also one of the biggest polluters in America, by the way.)

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd02152003.html

The money behind Barrick is from Saudi arms dealer and Bush family friend Adnan Khashoggi, who was identified as conduit in the Iran-Contra conspiracy. In 1986 he was arrested and charged with fraud but failed to be convicted. In one of his last acts as president Bush pardoned Khashoggi's alleged co-conspirators, who were key members of Bush's own cabinet. As a result, no case could be made against Khashoggi – or against Bush himself.

http://www.penfield-gill.com/presentations/bush_the_elder.htm
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:10 AM
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4. How millionaires were solicited for 'timeshare coup'
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 07:16 AM by emad aisat sana
Times Online
By Daniel McGrory
A casual approach at a drinks party was followed by the promise of quick profits


Snip:
MILLIONAIRE businessmen have told police how British mercenaries invited them to bankroll the alleged “timeshare coup” to seize power in oil-rich Equatorial Guinea. It was given this code name because the fundraisers made it clear that there was room for only about 15 investors. Some of those who claim that they were approached by the coup organisers have described to investigators in South Africa how at lavish drinks parties they were promised that the select group who agreed to write a cheque for about £100,000 each would share a £15 million payout within weeks.

The names of all those allegedly approached by the Old Etonian Simon Mann and his associates are included on a computer disk that has been seen by detectives in Pretoria. Police have nicknamed it “The Wonga List”. A senior security source in South Africa told The Times: “The appeal for investors was that in exchange for their money they would be given documents showing how they were investing in legitimate business enterprises. “It include fish farms, mining, security contracts and aviation deals with absolutely no mention of a coup,” the source said. These men were warned that it was first come, first served, and, as well as the £1 million immediate payout, they would have first refusal on future oil concessions in Equatorial Guinea.”
Many of the millionaires asked to back this alleged “timeshare coup” are understood to have British citizenship or own expensive homes in Britain.

One businessman who has a home in Cape Town and claims that he was approached told The Times: “It was a casual conversation at a drinks party around a swimming pool in January this year about ‘a security project’ at an African mine. Looking back it was all very casual and vague but the hook was the quick profit.” The British-born entrepreneur, who has given a statement to South African investigators but asked not to be named, said: “If you showed interest then you were invited to another meeting and given more details. Once Equatorial Guinea was mentioned I declined and heard no more about it.” Lawyers representing the Government in Equatorial Guinea say that they have studied documents which identify many of the leading investors and the ringleaders behind the alleged plot.

This includes the detailed written statement that Mr Mann, 51, gave the authorities in Zimbabwe after he was arrested at Harare airport in March along with 69 men who, police claim, were part of the private army trying to overthrow President Teodoro Obiang. Mr Mann, a former SAS officer and scion of the Watney brewing empire, could be sentenced later today by magistrates in Harare. If convicted for trying to buy weapons in Zimbabwe for the botched coup, Mr Mann could face life imprisonment.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1234704,00.html

Was Princess Diana's brother on The Wonga List - he lives half a mile away from Thatcher in the Constantia suburb of Cape Town...No one named him YET.

Times details idle rich neighbours:

Enclave of the rich offers expats the good life
From Xan Rice in Cape Town
snip:
WEALTHY expats arriving in Cape Town have a choice: a view of the beach or vineyards. Those seeking a sea view head for Clifton, where apartments overlooking the Atlantic Ocean can sell for more than £1 million. Those who opt for a more private, although no-less lavish life, choose Constantia, on the other side of Table Mountain.
Upper Constantia, where Mark Thatcher, Simon Mann, his ex-Etonian friend and co-accused in the alleged Equatorial Guinea plot, and Earl Spencer live with their familes, is, in the words of one local estate agent, “the peach of the Cape”. ...............


The influx of British expats, many of whom live here only for the summer, has sent property prices soaring to the extent that the South African Government is considering placing curbs on foreign land ownership. But the local estate agents are smiling. “The market is very strong,” June Stephens, of Blue-Chip Properties, said. “But you can see why: it is a great lifestyle around here.” Ms Stephens said that the British elite now formed a significant portion of the community. “We get a lot of lords and ladies buying property. They find the domestic help here is useful as they get older.”......

One upmarket property agent, who did not want to be named, said that Sir Mark would not be missed if he left or went to jail. “His wife was pleasant, but he was unpopular around here. He was known as rogue, and I am not suprised what has happened to him.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1234627,00.html





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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:30 AM
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5. When these people are caught they should get capital punishment from
courts in the countries they tried to overthrow.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:45 AM
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6. Coup fever spreads: Blair lies low as eldest son is busted for new coup
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London, Friday (Associated Mess) - UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife Cherry Bush were unavailable for comment at their Italian holiday villa this morning as the news broke that their eldest son Euan, 20, had been arrested in London by officers of SO13 Special Branch - along with radical Shiite cleric Shaikh Ali Abu Hamza - for attempting to overthrown his father's government during his absence abroad by poisoning the Queen and installing a republican puppet regime headed by Prince (sic) William.

In a dawn raid at premises formerly occupied by the Conservative Party Central Office in Jonathan Aitken Street, Westminister, officers seized young Blair and several unnamed accomplices, along with Abu Hamza and his long-term business partner Kevin Maxwell - whose father Robert Maxwell died in such unusual circumstances while on a nude midnight fishing trip for loan sharks in the Western Mediterranean in 1991.

Also seized were passports, bank account details, gold bullion bars left over from the 1983 Brinks Mat Heathrow heist, computers, AK47 machine guns and a large sack of £50 pound notes totalling approximately £57 million. SO13 officers said this may have been the proceeds of a charity fundraiser by Jeffrey Archer after the first Gulf War, destined for the Kurds of Northern Iraq as well as assorted Marsh Arabs loyal to Ahmad Chalabi bagman and Riggs Bank CEO Jonathan Bush, currently under investigation by the US Justice Department for laundering General Pinochet's $$$$$$$$$$$s and financing Mark Thatcher's logistical support for a different coup, in Equitorial Guinea.

Commenting on the raid, a police spokesman said young Blair had samples of a highly toxic fissile substance allegedly purchased from the Carole Caplin Longevity Emporium in Camden Town which he was about to administer to Her Majesty later that day in the form of a homeopathic suppository, while she was asleep at the Highland retreat at Balmoral. Also found were other lethal noxious contaminants believed to be derived from recipies in the Taleban Cookbook edited by Crawford University's Emeritius Professor of Moneylaundering Mary Archer.The coup was successfully foiled after police received a tip-off that young Blair may have been trying initially to get a part-time summer job while on vacation from university with Tora Bora mercenaries Jonathan Idema, Brent Bennett and Edward Caraballo. Police believe that Idema's plea bargain with the Kabul prosecutors last week snared Blair in a sting that netted the plotters while Blair senior and his wife were keeping a low profile at the Pope's summer residence at Castelgandolfo, Italy.The accused were led away for questioning and are believed to be held at Paddington maximum security police interrogation where they are being questioned under the Data Protection Act amendment to the UK's draconian anti-terrorism laws.
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s1i6428
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:31 AM
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14. "thespoof.com"???........LOL!!!!.....too funny.
Call Proffessor Plum and his secretary Ms. White!!!

We'll find out who dun it??
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:53 AM
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7. WHOA - "the aircraft had been converted for US military use "
Boeing 727 converted for U.S. military use in Kansas used in a coup attempt in Africa????? Got to be all kinds of violations of U.S. laws here - Neutrality Act among others. This is a major scandal. What Kansas firm sold the plane? How soon before some usual suspects - like Halliburton - start popping up?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:04 AM
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8. Some background on that plane
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:33 AM
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9. Thanks - this is a wild story - I started a thread in GD on the plane
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 03:05 PM
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21. Thanks for the scoops.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:35 AM
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15. Ask the US Offense Secretary D. Rumfeld.
"Pre-emptive strikes are the only way!!!"

Coup d'etat for one and all........

Bwahahahaha......
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:54 AM
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10. More of these shadowy Guernsey companies
Guernsey seems to be the British equivalent of the Bahamas or the Cayman Islands -- a place where all sorts of dubious operations can fly under the radar. For example, Khaled bin Mahfouz was operating out of Guernsey in the 1990's, after BCCI went belly-up.

(If I remember correctly, the Channel Islands still operate under some pecular feudal loophole, where they owe fealty to the Queen but are not officially part of the United Kingdom.)

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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:42 AM
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16. Yep, constitutional anomaly not taxed by Gordon Brown or
previous chancellors...best scam is neighbouring Alderney where no questions asked principle rules all the time.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:49 AM
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17. Or Sark - dragged kicking and screaming out of the 16th century
at the start of the 21st: Sark considers democracy
The last feudal constitution in the western world is introducing elections to comply with United Nations human rights legislation.

The elections will change a system dating back to Queen Elizabeth I, who once granted the ruling "Seigner" a fief on the tiny Channel Island of Sark.

Unelected descendents of 40 families brought in to colonise Sark, after the French abandoned it in 1553, have governed life on the island ever since.


See also: Sark women get equal rights
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:51 AM
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18. But...wife abuse is legally OK in Sark but NOT on Alderney...
slight difference?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 11:07 AM
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19. OK, not quite equal rights, then
you can't hurry these things after 400 years, can you? </sarcasm>
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 11:15 AM
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20. They are FAILING!!! Hello Guys YOUR FAILING!!!
Get a Grip!!!
The Only thing you have taken over is Haiti and you did that pathetically....

Chavez has survived
Now New Guinea has survived

Yukos Oligarch is in jail
Iraq is a disaster

What can I say guys

You need more Eton and Yale graduates to pull these off

I swear Eton and Yale are breeding grounds for Millionaire Theives
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 12:08 AM
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22. kick for Thatcher Family Evil Empire
:kick:
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