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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 06:47 PM
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Breaking: Abu Ghraib Report Faults Top Commanders - MSNBC
EXCLUSIVE
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 6:58 p.m. ET Aug. 23, 2004

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The Pentagon commission investigating abuse of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq will accuse top commanders of responsibility for disorganization in the command structure that led to wrongdoing at the prison, according to excerpts of the commission’s report obtained by NBC News.

The investigation, headed by former Defense Secretary James Schlesinger, is one of two expected to be released this week. The other was ordered by the Army.

The Schlesinger commission found no evidence that units up the chain of command from the 800th Military Police Brigade, which was in charge of security at Abu Ghraib, and the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, which oversaw interrogations, were directly involved in the incidents. But it will accuse the Joint Staff at the Defense Department of failing to recognize deteriorating mission performance among military intelligence interrogators owing to the stress of repeated combat deployments.

In addition, the report underscores, there were not enough trained military police assigned to an increasingly growing detainee population because reinforcements were not sent to the prison despite a growing insurgency. Partly as a result, suspect interrogation techniques first used with detainees at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were employed at Abu Ghraib without proper safeguards, the report found. Among those techniques was the use of unmuzzled dogs.

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Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5800201/



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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 06:52 PM
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1. Pass out the brushes
begin the whitewashing. :puke:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 06:56 PM
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3. Looks Like They Let Sanchez Off The Hook, And Go After Karpinski !!!
They best keep digging!!!

:grr::nuke::mad:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 06:53 PM
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2. Two Dozen "Intelligence Soldiers Face Criminal Abuse Charges"
Once they delve into the Military Intelligence's role in this sordid affair, the direct connection to Rumsfeld and the White House will begin to become clear.


"The Los Angeles Times, quoting senior defense officials, and other news organizations reported last week that the commission would also recommend that two dozen intelligence soldiers face criminal abuse charges similar to those lodged against the seven MPs."

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:00 PM
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4. "UNMUZZLED POLICE DOGS" ------ya that works ????
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 07:05 PM by saigon68


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During last winter's grueling shoot in Poland, Fiennes vacuumed up nuggets of Goethiana from every source: newsreels, Thomas Keneally's Schindler novel, testimony by the Schindler Jews. But he needed no research to feel the chill of hatred in his bones; simply by appearing in his Nazi uniform he enlisted volunteers of bigotry. "The Germans were charming people," a sweet-faced woman told him. "They didn't kill anybody who didn't deserve it."
When Fiennes, in full Hauptsturmführer regalia, was introduced by Spielberg to Mila Pfefferberg, a Schindler survivor depicted in the film, the old lady trembled. "Her knees began to give out from under her," Spielberg recalls. "I held her while Ralph enthused about how important it was for him to meet her -- and she vibrated with terror. She didn't see an actor. She saw Amon Goeth." (Corliss)


As evil as Fiennes makes Goeth in his portrait, the real Goeth was more evil still. "The real Amon Goeth . . . was an artist of evil grandly deranged, creatively sadistic. He would set his dogs on children and watch them be devoured" (Corliss). In the words of Poldek Pfefferberg, "When you saw Goeth, you saw death" (Keneally 360; figures 7 and 8).

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:04 PM
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5. What about this?
Rumsfailed Admitted to Violating Geneva Convention

Rumsfailed admitted in public that when CIA Director Tenet requested that an Irai prisoner be sent to a secret Afghan/US Prison that Rumsfailed did so. After four months a DOD Attorney stated that this was an illegal act. Rumsfailed then ordered that this prisoner be sent back to Abu Graib but the prisoner was not listed at that location. That is two violations of the Geneva Convention. Tenet and Rumsfailed violated the Geneva convention, thereby also The Constitution of the USA. Not one complaint or charge was made regarding Rumsfailed and Tenet, not even by any Dem in Congress.

Does the US no longer follow the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA?

It appears so.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 07:07 PM
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6. IT IS SO--- IT IS UNSPEAKABLE EVIL
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